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Thats a real promising start for a show I was very skeptical of going in. Really wish they had a double episode premiere after that ending.
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Kind of interesting to see that there are no cell phones in this world.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:03
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That preview of whats to come was some ambitious looking stuff.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:04
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muscles like this! posted:Kind of interesting to see that there are no cell phones in this world. There will probably be some emphasis on that and the importance of free flowing instant communication. No cell phones, no internet.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:05
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Supreme Allah posted:Okay that 'Unforgettable' reference is to the movie not the book It was in the book too. Supreme Allah posted:Adrian what did you doo I wouldn't put it past the government to be in on the little secret to remind the world that it better not forget who the "real enemy" is. edit: by that I mean they randomly cause squid storms to keep the guise up. Didn't look like Veidt was doing anything to cause it. Plus, what if he died? No more squid rain?
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Oct 21, 2019 03:08
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Preston Waters posted:Plus, what if he died? No more squid rain? If that newspaper is to be believed, he is dead.
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Jose Oquendo posted:If that newspaper is to be believed, he is dead. Jeremy Irons looked pretty alive and well.
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Jose Oquendo posted:If that newspaper is to be believed, he is dead. Declared dead. We saw him alive and well in the episode. It really is a fantastic pilot and all the little background details are intriguing. IMO episodes 3, 5 and 6 are even better than the pilot so I'm excited to see how people react to them.
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Lindelof definitely enjoys getting to play around in worn-in alternate universes where a hosed up thing happened. Excited to see where this one goes.
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Jose Oquendo posted:If that newspaper is to be believed, he is dead. Veidt is the old man in the castle with the servants. He's hiding, probably faked his death or vanished once his role in the pyshic squid invasion massacre got revealed due to rorschach diary as teased by the ending of the comic. The squid rain is likely connected to the psychic squid itself causing tears in the fabric of reality. The Last Call fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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There's definitely something not normal with the squid rain seeing as they dissolved almost as soon as they came down. Miching Mallecho posted:pay attention to the wall during the classroom scene to find who became president after Nixon According to the radio he is still president, which makes sense as Nixon pushed through a Constitutional amendment abolishing term limits.
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Agreed that this was a good start to the show. I've got a lot of questions. For someone whose first introduction to the story is the original graphic novel, I can't help but wonder if there is any more direct relation between those characters and the new story. Right now we got... A terrorist organization inspired by Rorschach because of course The police using Nite Owl tech And I guess Dr Manhattan is still tooling around on Mars My biggest question was who Jeremy Irons was. There were certainly hints that he was somebody. Well, I guess I just got spoiled with the Wikipedia entry for the show. Makes the most sense of who it could be. muscles like this! posted:Kind of interesting to see that there are no cell phones in this world. Where did you see this implied? I missed it. Le Saboteur posted:That preview of whats to come was some ambitious looking stuff. Yeah, this show is gonna get weird and I am down for it. Preston Waters posted:I wouldn't put it past the government to be in on the little secret to remind the world that it better not forget who the "real enemy" is. I'd find it hard to believe that the guise could be kept up. The Cavalry is outright quoting Rorschach. That means his journal got published. With that, I don't see how Veidt's lie could be sustained. Then again, with what Regina's character said about the world not being pretty, perhaps the lie is still alive. I'm betting the squid poo poo is a true side effect.
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Preston Waters posted:Jeremy Irons looked pretty alive and well. I'm sorry. I was trying to be clever but failed. Yeah I think you're onto something with the government keeping up some sort of ruse.
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I have no idea what's going on other than liberals vs conservatives.
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So this was actually good? The ads made it look awful, and no other attempt to build on the story had been even tolerable. I think they had Dr. Manhattan hanging out with Batman a while ago.
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The show didn’t spell it out yet but yeah i think it would be silly if we all pretend we didn’t see all the press about it beforehand.
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Rorschach’s journal as the Turner Diaries of that world sounds like a nice touch.
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muscles like this! posted:According to the radio he is still president, which makes sense as Nixon pushed through a Constitutional amendment abolishing term limits. Redford's been president for 30 years lol. [edit] Oh the show takes place 30 years after Watchmen. Duh.
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Miching Mallecho posted:pay attention to the wall during the classroom scene to find who became president after Nixon DC Comics is publishing an event story called Doomsday Clock, where the Watchmen characters cross over into the DC world after their world takes a turn for the worse once the veil of the lie falls. In that story, he's been president this entire time as well.
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LesterGroans posted:Declared dead. We saw him alive and well in the episode. How do you know 3, 5 and 6 are particularly good?
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Revol posted:With that, I don't see how Veidt's lie could be sustained. Easily. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p80hXaM4QgU quote:Then again, with what Regina's character said about the world not being pretty, perhaps the lie is still alive. Yea I'm quite sure it is. It showed the WTC in "the box" when he asked what the suspect thought about the interdimensional aliens. Meaning the Seventh Cavalry believe the conspiracy, i.e. the truth, but what everyone else believes to be a conspiracy theory. (No I am not a loving 9/11 truther, don't worry) quote:I'm betting the squid poo poo is a true side effect. I guess we'll find out, but why would the event in the book cause squid rain decades later? Seems a bit of a stretch.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:How do you know 3, 5 and 6 are particularly good? I believe they're a TV writer who has seen screeners.
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With a show like this, I want all the episodes NOW I don’t like waiting  Honestly, if Manhattan makes a cameo. I honestly hope they had Crudup do it, unless it’s just glimpses and he doesn’t even speak or something.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:So this was actually good? The ads made it look awful, and no other attempt to build on the story had been even tolerable. I think they had Dr. Manhattan hanging out with Batman a while ago. Batman hasn't met him yet, but he has met with others. The book is nearing the end, though it's gone through several delays. I like it. It's an interesting story. I hope it is used to make far-reaching changes to the DC universe, because that seems to be what the story is setting up. Philthy posted:I have no idea what's going on other than liberals vs conservatives. How so? I don't see it. I can't imagine how you could say the Cavalry is liberal. (The police force has to be conservative, right?)
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Scooter_McCabe posted:How do you know 3, 5 and 6 are particularly good? I've seen them. teagone posted:Redford's been president for 30 years lol. "Redford-rations" is such an insane detail.
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teagone posted:Redford's been president for 30 years lol. Yea, and remember the scene at the right-winged newspaper at the end of the book mentions that he's going to run, to which the owner of the paper yells, "Don't be a damned idiot, we're not going to elect a goddamn cowboy to be president." An obvious riff on Reagan.
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Supreme Allah posted:Rorschach was never racial was he? Fascist sure but only against criminals. He killed lots of white baddies. Rorschach was racist and homophobic in the comic. Dude was a piece of poo poo but somehow less of a piece of poo poo than the Comedian and Veidt.
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Preston Waters posted:Easily. I guess Rorschach wouldn't have been considered a reliable witness, so... yeah. It'd be that world's 9/11 conspiracy.
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Best new character is Panda. prove me wrong  edit: also lmfbo @ "If I defecated on the American flag, how would that make you feel?" Preston Waters fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Revol posted:Where did you see this implied? I missed it. Because it is 2019 in the show and they're using pagers and landlines.
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Vanderdeath posted:Rorschach was racist and homophobic in the comic. Dude was a piece of poo poo but somehow less of a piece of poo poo than the Comedian and Veidt. Nooo.. he hated anyone indulging in their impulses, he hated the idea of sex in general, but racist? That's the only thing I can't recall about him being. He was Black/white but action wise, not skin-wise
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List of things which own: bioshock infinite vibes from the intro literal meat shield minigun scene and flamethrower aerial frag sister night, crawford, panda, and disco face dude this show
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I really can't get over how smart it was to start the show with the Tulsa race riot, as gauche as that sounds as I type it. It conveys a sensitivity to the racial implications of its own premise, as well as the cyclical, generational nature of the events of that day, the original story, and now this series. It's like Lindelof predicted the hand-wringing about the "police opposing white supremacists" concept and decided to just immediately push those doubts aside.
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addendum: future in the soundtrack
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Supreme Allah posted:Nooo.. he hated anyone indulging in their impulses, he hated the idea of sex in general, but racist? Guess you missed the line from his diary where he mentions "race traitors" lol
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Thom and the Heads posted:Guess you missed the line from his diary where he mentions "race traitors" lol That’s not the original line. The 7th Kavalry have changed it from politicians.
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Thom and the Heads posted:Guess you missed the line from his diary where he mentions "race traitors" lol It’s on the first page. It’s parodied in the op of this thread. Edit: oh no I’m wrong. It’s “politicians,” right?
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I think Lindelof mentioned in an interview that he didn’t believe Rorschach was racist at any rate. Anyways I liked the episode well enough but wasn’t particularly wowed by it. It has me curious about the long run at least.
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