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Neddy Seagoon posted:You mean aside from all the heroes that have Quirks that should be mediocre or worthless but manage to turn them into something that makes them the best heroes around? A big part of MHA is there's more than just raw strength to being a hero. Deku's path is not the only one taken, and even in his case it's more about controlling it rather than "get buff, punch dudes". I'm talking about the general focus on like, tournament arcs and competition between heroes
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mha is okay but not spectacular.
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Oct 22, 2019 16:29
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dr. stone has been a bit disappointing because it has a heavy focus on shonenizing science but then gets the science wrong
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More like meh, heroes all right
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Oct 22, 2019 16:31
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ultimately what makes a work great or not is likely to be incredibly specific and personal tbh
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Oct 22, 2019 16:47
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I really should get around to watching and/or reading MHA. I liked the American version. 
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Oct 22, 2019 17:00
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Yardbomb posted:But at the same time, Valentine actually has things going for him as an antagonist, he actually has some charisma, he's actually chiseled and good looking. I'm not looking forward to whenever Part 7 is animated because of all the idiotic "Valentine did nothing wrong!!!" takes.
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Neo_Crimson posted:I'm not looking forward to whenever Part 7 is animated because of all the idiotic "Valentine did nothing wrong!!!" takes. Yes, okay, but consider: gyro's pizza song animated
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CYBEReris posted:dr. stone has been a bit disappointing because it has a heavy focus on shonenizing science but then gets the science wrong It's also Boichi's most meh work. Also since we're all talking about anime, here's a thing that's been going on in Japan the past few days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzIPhntXEuA
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Given the current topic of this thread, I thought it would be cool to spotlight two anime YouTube channels that seem pretty good: the works of Zeria and thePedanticRomantic, a queer couple that does really good work on queer anime. thePedanticRomantic has an hour-long retrospective on Wandering Son, a rather famous anime with trans main characters, and Zeria has a video on anime, the Alt Right, and Leftists, but all the videos I've seen from them have been pretty good.
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If anyone is looking for some old school and kinda overlooked Satoshi Kon, look up Magnetic Rose from the compilation Katsuhiro Otomo's Memories. The other two shorts, to be frank, aren't particularly great, but it's Kon's first writing credit iirc and one hell of a watch if you can find a non-horrible copy of it. Bonus: music by Yoko Kanno. AstroWhale posted:Currently watching Paranoia Agent, on episode 3, to watch Super Eyepatch Wolf's video on it. Episode 8 is... yeah, an amazing episode but some serious dark humour. Archer666 posted:Honestly, the Black Lagoon dub is better than the original Japanese version. A rare thing but it happens. Ranma 1/2 stuck out as well - comedy generally suits dubs well because the sub typically ruins the comedic timing.
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YaketySass posted:Good thread. Both this essay and the twitter thread are correct that the only way to have a movement is to build one yourself and that you can’t look to big names to do it for you. Both of them though put their resentment in a weird place, as there is no such thing as “breadtube” except in the minds of the people watching, nor any deliberate attempt by anyone discussed to build or deliver anything except fun videos. The expectations these authors feel have not been met are entirely things they themselves bring to the experience of watching youtube videos. It feels perverse to criticize people for not doing what you expect them to do or to say they’re doing a political project the wrong way when they’re just atomized individuals who got into making videos without any particular goal. They made friends because they were lonely. They didn’t have a plan because there was no reason for a plan. They’re the first video critics to ever exist, and none of them planned on being that. All these measures that find hbomberguy or whoever lacking come from expectations brought to an entirely ad hoc project that never intended anything in particular. So it’s correct that people shouldn’t expect a coherent political project from posters on the internet, but it’s also perverse and cruel to fault them for not delivering one rather than faulting yourself (not you as in the op or any specific poster here) for expecting one. They’re just people. Evaluate them with the same generosity you would grant yourself. Honestly, I don’t think they should have any accountability to the “fans” or audience at all, morally speaking. They’re as free as I am to do whatever they feel, because all expectations are external to whatever project they’re embarking on and are calculated without full understanding of what they have to endure to make videos.
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Do Japanese people argue over King of the Hill and The Simpsons on whether dubs are allowed or if a real connoisseur must learn English in order to fully appreciate them?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:They’re just people. Evaluate them with the same generosity you would grant yourself. I would venture that this may be the issue. Leftists, especially queer leftists, often do have to cut off friends and family to some degree. Not from some purity standard, but because someone you thought you knew will say horrible things about people without ever knowing you are those people. You can try to educate, sometimes it works, but when it doesn’t... it’s time to sever. So seeing what appears to be that very pattern to an outsider end without that becomes confusing, which spawns conspiratorial thinking.
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Archer666 posted:It's also Boichi's most meh work. Theres no mass outrage.
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Eschenique posted:Do Japanese people argue over King of the Hill and The Simpsons on whether dubs are allowed or if a real connoisseur must learn English in order to fully appreciate them? Subs all the way 
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Eschenique posted:Do Japanese people argue over King of the Hill and The Simpsons on whether dubs are allowed or if a real connoisseur must learn English in order to fully appreciate them? God I hope so. Real human connection there.
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Senerio posted:I really should get around to watching and/or reading MHA. I liked the American version. Fascist as heck.
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Eschenique posted:Do Japanese people argue over King of the Hill and The Simpsons on whether dubs are allowed or if a real connoisseur must learn English in order to fully appreciate them? They do indeed. There was also a fascinating twitter thread a few months back about French dubs of the Simpsons. Long story short, everyone enjoys the Quebecois dubs a lot more.
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Bug Squash posted:They do indeed. I don't. But then, a Quebecois accent just makes me descend into a frothing rage, I can't help it.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It feels perverse to criticize people for not doing what you expect them to do or to say they’re doing a political project the wrong way when they’re just atomized individuals who got into making videos without any particular goal. They made friends because they were lonely. They didn’t have a plan because there was no reason for a plan. They’re the first video critics to ever exist, and none of them planned on being that. All these measures that find hbomberguy or whoever lacking come from expectations brought to an entirely ad hoc project that never intended anything in particuladr. Isnt it reasonable to be frustrated that someone whos profited off being labeled 'the woke transwoman who deconverts extremists' consistently has lovely opinions and attitudes about a minority group Like i dont care if contras friends stay her friends but the fact that none of them can just straightforwardly say 'buck angel sucks' is stupid, and contra herself is a dipshit. Iunno if it needs to be more complicated than that on either side
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Oct 22, 2019 18:33
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Eschenique posted:Do Japanese people argue over King of the Hill and The Simpsons on whether dubs are allowed or if a real connoisseur must learn English in order to fully appreciate them?
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Eschenique posted:Do Japanese people argue over King of the Hill and The Simpsons on whether dubs are allowed or if a real connoisseur must learn English in order to fully appreciate them? From what I've listened to of the Japanese dub though they really did try to localize it well. Even Boomhauer.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:37
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The episode with Hank's secret brother being a Japanese salaryman must be a trip.
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Endorph posted:Doesnt making tons of money on patreon and doing intervies with big news sites imply that youre taking on importance and responsibility tho No, it means you're trying to survive having a job
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:No, it means you're trying to survive having a job
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From what I've heard they have Boomhauer just talking normally.
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YaketySass posted:The episode with Hank's secret brother being a Japanese salaryman must be a trip.
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Endorph posted:Which seems like a better choice than trying to pretend it somehow takes place in Japan. That'd be a headache. The idea of trying to apply the "eat your hamburgers, Apollo" treatment to KotH sounds hilarious.
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Dabir posted:From what I've heard they have Boomhauer just talking normally.
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YaketySass posted:That'd be a headache. The idea of trying to apply the "eat your hamburgers, Apollo" treatment to KotH sounds hilarious. this is true but also it would own
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YaketySass posted:That'd be a headache. The idea of trying to apply the "eat your hamburgers, Apollo" treatment to KotH sounds hilarious. Peggy Hill's famous Peggy-Soba looks a lot like a fuckin pastry!
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grittyreboot posted:I'm the complete opposite where I'll see and enjoy the movie and completely ignore any online discussion for the sake of my own sanity I wish I'd done that.
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Fabricated posted:He has an accent and weird cadence, but it's not as dramatic a difference as his English actor. I dunno how you'd accurately replicate it in Japanese, but there was an effort made. You can 100% replicate boomhauer with some completely impenetrable kansaiben
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I imagine Japanese boomhauer would sound like that video of the Asian guy shouting gibberish with a redneck accent. The Japanese dub for the Simpsons is dead on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r_O-Zp_WP4
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Oct 22, 2019 19:04
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Huh. The actress who plays Bart also dubbed Jerry from Tom and Jerry and Gary Coleman's Arnold from Diff'rent Strokes.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:
I mean if call myself poo poo if I promoted someone like buck so even if I follow this argument it's not the defence you think it is. And again these aren't just them being friends it's literal cross promotion and raising each others voices. Edit: to be clear while I think Lindsay's response was bad, it's why more of my criticism is levelled at Olly, he's participatory. Stormgale fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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I heard the problem with French Simpsons dub was they gave everyone an upper class Parisian accent which doesn't really work. But the Canadian dub mixes accents from working class to upper class where appropriate so it works.
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The whole Contragate thing totally ended with breadtube throwing NB people under the bus and several notable bread tubers failing to even imply support.
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