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So he tried to play through it, then when he got benched he decided he might as well get the surgery, is what you’re saying? Because that changes absolutely nothing in a positive favor for the Jets.
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mcmagic posted:I'm not saying the Jets are right. I'm just saying there is context. If he had the surgery before the season and is out for the year he wouldn't have gotten his guaranteed cash for 2019. Now that he's not playing I'm sure he wants to have the surgery now so that he can sign a FA contract for 2020 whereas the Jets want to trade him. Douglas should probably speak on this instead of just not saying poo poo too. so basically he didn't get the surgery earlier that is required to fix the injury he got playing football for the jets, because if he did the jets would take away the money he was guaranteed under the contract to get him to play football for them and get that injury that sure is some context alright
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Oct 23, 2019 21:25
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evilweasel posted:so basically he didn't get the surgery earlier that is required to fix the injury he got playing football for the jets, because if he did the jets would take away the money he was guaranteed under the contract to get him to play football for them and get that injury He didn't get it playing for the Jets. The Jets traded for him this past offseason and this issue was preexisting.
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They accepted his rights in that trade Dude you’re adding context which is in of itself a defense of what they’re doing. And you’re wrong for it! Gase poo poo aside just let the dude have surgery. This is a really bad look for any fa you’d be targeting
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Amy Pole Her posted:They accepted his rights in that trade I said basically exactly this like a week ago and you're still arguing with me lol. Why?
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Professor Funk posted:The Jets are a loving tire fire in so many ways. This is outrageous. The instant someone's first response to this MRI thing being leaked out was "there's no way this is true", it was a matter of time before it was getting confirmed. Absolutely loving disgusting from the Jets, yet I can't look away 
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By all accounts this is a Joe Douglas stance so he should probably put a statement out at the very least. And Douglas didn’t trade for him so it’s not like he’s super invested here unless he had a deal lined up or something. Either way it’s lovely and bizarre.
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Diva Cupcake posted:By all accounts this is a Joe Douglas stance so he should probably put a statement out at the very least. And Douglas didn’t trade for him so it’s not like he’s super invested here unless he had a deal lined up or something. Douglas should be speaking on the state of the team. He's really acting like he's totally washing his hands of what is going on this season.
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Also relevant. Gase as a guy talking football has been great. Gase as a coach has been trash. https://twitter.com/DrewfromJersey/status/1187079263079542784
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Diva Cupcake posted:Also relevant. Gase as a guy talking football has been great. Gase as a coach has been trash. I've actually found Gase pretty likable. The performance on the field however, speaks for itself.
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mcmagic posted:I haven't found him to be vile or arrogant and even if he was, he's still 10x a better person than the guy he lost to last night. He also hasn't been blaming the players. The results on the field are what I'm worried about. No disagreements about old Bill, but while I was exaggerating I actually do find Gase a bit repulsive. Him spitting his gross chew juice that looks like sewage the entire game certainly doesn't help, that seriously was making me feel ill. Neither do his crazy eyes, his patchy beard or his penchant for snorting smelling salts. Look, I don't know the guy personally but I know he ran Landry and Ajayi out of town and I know that tons of players have said they didn't like working with him and that he lost the locker room. I am not the first person to believe he's arrogant, that has come straight from players who have worked with him. I don't think he's great with the media and, most importantly maybe, I don't think he's a good coach. I don't understand what the Jets saw in him and I don't understand why he immediately got a second chance when there were other decent options. But, whatever. I still want Darnold and the Jets to do well
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There are numerous players on the Jets I wish he would run out of town.
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Everyone is in agreement that they need to trade Leo. Maybe they can get a 3rd. Hopefully. I’d prefer they keep Robby since quality deep threats don’t grow on trees.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Everyone is in agreement that they need to trade Leo. Maybe they can get a 3rd. Hopefully. I wouldn't trade Robby but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. He's just not a real number 1 WR. I would also consider trading Adams if they can get a package like the Jags got for Ramsey.
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mcmagic posted:There are numerous players on the Jets I wish he would run out of town. He only runs talented players out, so no dice there, sorry.
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TheBizzness posted:He only runs talented players out, so no dice there, sorry. I've yet to see him run a good player out of town at either one of his stops.
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I mean they weren’t Jamison Crowder level to be sure but they did make pro bowls and what not.
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TheBizzness posted:I mean they weren’t Jamison Crowder level to be sure but they did make pro bowls and what not. Jay Ajayi isn't even in the NFL anymore. Calm down.
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mcmagic posted:Jay Ajayi isn't even in the NFL anymore. Calm down. And has a super bowl ring for his troubles
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mcmagic posted:I've yet to see him run a good player out of town at either one of his stops. Jay Ajayi?!?!?
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mcmagic posted:Jay Ajayi isn't even in the NFL anymore. Calm down. Because of injuries, not lack of skill. But he accomplished more in his short career than any player on the Jets roster.
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TheBizzness posted:Because of injuries, not lack of skill. This isn't true. He had 1 good year in his career and it was when Gase was his coach.
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mcmagic posted:I said basically exactly this like a week ago and you're still arguing with me lol. Why? You must have different conclusions in your head because that’s not what you said tbh
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Amy Pole Her posted:You must have different conclusions in your head because that’s not what you said tbh Wrong. I said the Jets were in the wrong and that they should let him have the surgery the first day this was a story.
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That’s one more good season than Jamison Crowder, Robby Anderson, and Chris Herndon combined.
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TheBizzness posted:That’s one more good season than Jamison Crowder, Robby Anderson, and Chris Herndon combined. How many more than Bell? That isn't even the point. The point is that Ajayi didn't do anything after Gase dumped him that would make Gase look bad. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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mcmagic posted:How many more than Bell? I live in the Philly burbs, and he looked really great for the Eagles when he was healthy. He went from a 3.4 y/a with Gase in Miami to 5.8 y/a after being traded to Philly. Gase didn't dump him because he was a bum, he dumped him cause he wasn't an Adam Gase guy. You can't argue "Thank god we traded that guy" just because he got hurt. It's like Steelers fans being happy they got rid of Brown because of the sexual assault.
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Never forget that Adam Gase didn’t want Le’Veon Bell.
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mcmagic posted:How many more than Bell? Ajayi was more successful post fins than any fin who replaced him, other than getting an injury. But, we all know when Gase pushes Bell out because he doesn't believe there is much difference in running backs and doesn't want to pay them, you'll have a different view. Then you'll have Gase as HC and no Bell. Might not happen, since Gase will likely either be fired or on a short lease next year.
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torgeaux posted:Ajayi was more successful post fins than any fin who replaced him, other than getting an injury. He had literally like 4 good games for the eagles and never played again lol. The issue with Gase and Bell is that he isn't using him in the right ways and isn't throwing the ball to him enough. I'm not worried about him pushing him out.
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It just occurred to me how hilarious it will be if the Gase-led Jets inadvertently out-tank us.
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The way the AFC East schedules are such a joke this year the Jets could legit still win 8 games. Bengals, Steelers, 2x Dolphins, Giants, Redskins Also Jags and Bills (not talking poo poo Bills fans just saying the Jets COULD win).
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https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1187456032441802753 The Jets are looking to trade Robby Anderson, which I'm assuming is the latest player that Adam Gase has found issues with.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1187456032441802753 Nah, he's just all they have for trade bait and this season is already a write off. torgeaux fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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I came dangerously close to posting that Adam Gase's penchant to trading away talented players might be a tad overblown, but I wisely waited until after the deadline.
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Robby is one of those guys that almost half the fan base is always singling him out to be traded any time such discussions arise and I don't understand why. I think it's two things maybe - he's not a stud #1 which the lack of on the team hurts, and that people really overvalue 5Th round picks (I see people saying they'd trade him for a 5th in a heartbeat). It's like there's no middle ground in talent to some people. Yeah the team needs a stud #1. But you need more than that for a receiving core and they don't grow on trees (or mid round draft picks for that matter) He's one of the few young talents this team has on O and his skills set has a place on any team. Nearly every good Jets win has involved big plays from him. Jets should be retaining what little talent they have on offense not giving it up for peanuts. Sometimes I do feel like I overrate the guy when I defend him but that's just because more so than any other player on the team he is constantly being suggested as trade material by fans for reasons I don't get. Phyein fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Phyein posted:Robby is one of those guys that almost half the fan base is always singling him out to be traded any time such discussions arise and I don't understand why. I think it's two things maybe - he's not a stud #1 which the lack of on the team hurts, and that people really overvalue 5Th round picks (I see people saying they'd trade him for a 5th in a heartbeat). It's like there's no middle ground in talent to some people. Yeah the team needs a stud #1. But you need more than that for a receiving core and they don't grow on trees (or mid round draft picks for that matter) Couldn't agree with this more. If you don't get big plays from Robby Anderson then who the gently caress are you going to get them from? Answer: you won't get them from anyone
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