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Tremek posted:Yes, that indeed would be handy considering Yea, I figured you are the target market for that, but I bet the NEC says you only need them in dwelling areas, not the garage. So even a new house, you would have been hooped unless you specified it. E: I don't have 2017, just 2011, but the internet says: In the 2017 edition of the NEC®, Section 210.12 requires that for dwelling units, all 120-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets or devices installed in dwelling unit kitchens, family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, laundry areas, or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by AFCIs. - So your electrician won't install AFCI's for garages unless they are made to. Also, it appears you can only get them for 15/20A breakers in the panel - GFCI is available for bigger loads, but doesn't protect you against the fire, just shocking yourself. - list on an 20A schneider/square D AFCI breaker is $240. Standard is $40. blindjoe fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Fair. I think it's shaping up that the garage will be semi-detached (spec'd and the foundation poured independent of the house, but then later we will likely build an enclosed breezeway or the like) so a sub-panel is either likely or necessary? In which case yeah, doing my research on arc-fault breakers. Thank you all so far for the input btw, I'm compiling a list that I expect will give me sticker shock and then I can start peeling back the really-wants from the sort-of-wants.
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toplitzin posted:Have you read the chat threads this year? No. Was that an electrical fire?
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Charles posted:No. Was that an electrical fire? Yes, but i think he was referring to Tremek's rough year in general with the monkeys and fire and such. You just don't notice because he has a very good attitude about it, because you can't keep a good man down. Tremek posted:Thank you all so far for the input btw, I'm compiling a list that I expect will give me sticker shock and then I can start peeling back the really-wants from the sort-of-wants. If you need help avoiding an expensive in-ground lift, this might help. http://www.yaplakal.com/forum11/topic2019829.html
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Powershift posted:If you need help avoiding an expensive in-ground lift, this might help. #3 and #11 are the same. But seriously, how did you find such a current link?
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meatpimp posted:#3 and #11 are the same. But seriously, how did you find such a current link? In what sense? It came up a few days ago in Авто https://auto.yaplakal.com/ the newest post there showcases some wall art that the crazy crash repair guys have  add it to the list, tremek! The crushing was either very gentle, or they bodyworked and painted the crushed car, either way  e: oh snap, hack off like a foot of the driver's side of the wagon and hang it on the wall Powershift fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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If I was building a garage, I'd try to find some way to fit a steel beam across the ceiling for a gantry and cable lift/chain hoist thing. Also floor trough drains and a slop sink.
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toplitzin posted:Have you read the chat threads this year? Fair point, of course. hehehe. I've gotten to where I never leave anything even charging when I leave the house these days. Let alone a washer or dryer running. I was home when my last washer seized and caught on fire. Scared the poo poo out of me. Fortunately it made horrible noise so I came running, and all I had to do was unplug it and wait for smoke to clear.
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Rectal Placenta posted:If I was building a garage, I'd try to find some way to fit a steel beam across the ceiling for a gantry and cable lift/chain hoist thing. Also floor trough drains and a slop sink. Yeah, I'd stick with a 2-post lift vs the below-ground one, and use that extra money to put in a gantry or jib crane of some sort, as high as feasible with at least a 1000# load rating. Edit: Alternately, just build a nice-tall A-frame with big casters to roll around if you have exceptionally tall ceilings.
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Tremek posted:Fair. I think it's shaping up that the garage will be semi-detached (spec'd and the foundation poured independent of the house, but then later we will likely build an enclosed breezeway or the like) so a sub-panel is either likely or necessary? In which case yeah, doing my research on arc-fault breakers. Have you looked around on Garagejournal at all? Lots of info and build logs, I'm sure you'll get some good feedback if you made a thread. Bulk Vanderhuge fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Garagejournal has me wanting to buy festool everything and 40K in storage solutions for the garage. I go there on rare occasions lest I become like a heroin addict.
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tangy yet delightful posted:Garagejournal has me wanting to buy festool everything and 40K in storage solutions for the garage. I go there on rare occasions lest I become like a heroin addict. One of us One of us ONE OF US!
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tangy yet delightful posted:Garagejournal has me wanting to buy festool everything and 40K in storage solutions for the garage. I go there on rare occasions lest I become like a heroin addict. Admittedly more than a few of the items in the "Show your new tool arrivals" have made their way into my own tool chest, in a "Wait, that exists? I NEED IT" kind of way.
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I started sketching out ideas for a workbench area that would extend the length of one wall of my garage. Just a basic wood build but I'm trying to figure out if i can fit a couple short cabinets in the design so I'll have drawer storage.
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Bulk Vanderhuge posted:Have you looked around on Garagejournal at all? Lots of info and build logs, I'm sure you'll get some good feedback if you made a thread. Oh man I had forgotten about that site. Full-tilt porn. I can’t let me wife see me browsing.
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we should find the people who put stuff back in the wrong bins at Home Depot and beat them with socks filled with the wrong size nuts and bolts.
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Mix the 1/4-20 and m6x1.0 bins half and half.
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10-32 and M5. I think 10-32 threads into M5 a little loosely, but it won't work the other way.
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Antlers? Sure, why not!
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I've got like three hours to tidy this place up. Will post results. 
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cakesmith handyman posted:I've got like three hours to tidy this place up. Will post results. godspeed. It took me a week to find the floor in my own garage.  Now just tons of sorting. My free garage project so far: left wall: 7'x8' ladder shelves: $0 Wood cabinet: $0 plastic shelving: gone soon: $40 Rolling shelf: $0 back wall: file cabinet: $0 shelving and cabinets; $0 work bench: $0 convection oven: $0 bottle/can shelving: $0 right wall: peggboard: $100(for the furring strips and screws) I think i'm going to just cover everything in pegboard and paint it an awesome color because i only used 10 sheets for a whole wall and have like 20 left.
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I used a nice high gloss candy apple red spray paint and it worked really well to make old pegboard look good. All pegboard should be painted.
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tangy yet delightful posted:I used a nice high gloss candy apple red spray paint and it worked really well to make old pegboard look good. All pegboard should be painted. I was thinking seaside blue on the bottom, battleship grey up top, and a black strip in the middle.
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Rhyno posted:Burn it all in the street? Tempting.  Got this far, camping gear went away properly on the rear shelves, wood pile got a minor sort and tool stands got tidied up against the wall.  Sorted a trailer load for the tip. Still need to clear the workbench and throw about half the wood away that I kept. I could probably get rid of 1/4 of what's on the shelves if I get ruthless. Haven't touched the wood on the wall rack yet, most of that's garbage if I'm honest.
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cakesmith handyman posted:Tempting. Looks like you've got a good bandsaw to break it down at least. Notorious hoarder of scrap everything here too. Is there any space heater that would do a decent job providing some heat during the winter? I don't need it to be 70F, even just enough heat to warm my hands would be enough for what I want. Even better if I can run it indoors in my basement too.
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nitsuga posted:Looks like you've got a good bandsaw to break it down at least. Notorious hoarder of scrap everything here too. Indoors/basement? I would get an oil filled radiator. I got one from Amazon I think they are $50-75 bucks?
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When I want to get something done in that space I heat it with a 400w oil radiator, enough to take the chill off then when you get working you generate your own heat. And although it needs new tyres that bandsaw is so loving handy, just zip through anything that needs to be small enough to chuck in the bin.
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tangy yet delightful posted:Indoors/basement? I would get an oil filled radiator. I got one from Amazon I think they are $50-75 bucks? cakesmith handyman posted:When I want to get something done in that space I heat it with a 400w oil radiator, enough to take the chill off then when you get working you generate your own heat. Ah, I think I've got an old one of those in my basement. D'oh. Guess I'll give it a go out in the garage when I do the winter tire swaps and last minute jobs on the Hondas.
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Tremek posted:I’m talking to our builder engineer and architect this week and I need some suggestions for what good poo poo I should ask to incorporate into my garage rebuild. Another one- Epoxy coat the floor. I grew up working on a plain concrete floor at the old mans farm, and it was a royal pain in the balls, its hard to keep clean, soaks up EVERY single leak and stains like a bastard. I epoxied the floor of my workshop and it takes 5 mins to sweep it up, i can just throw sawdust on oil spills, get 90% of it soaked up and then just hit it with a degreaser and a rag and its gone and if i feel particularly energetic i can mop the drat thing with truck wash and it looks almost like the day I put it down again (minus some scratches and chips)
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Did you do the floor coating yourself, or pay a specialized company? I'm hesitant about the quality of the Home Depot-level kits. If you did it yourself, what type of product did you use?
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I used https://www.garageflooringllc.com/polyurea-garage-floor-coating/ The only real problem with it is that it is destroyed by brake fluid, but a good poly or epoxy is a massive improvement over the relentless dirty that is bare concrete. I applied it myself over 4 days to ~650sqft of garage and I could do a much better job the second time.
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I paid somebody about $1k to coat mine because I didn't want to gently caress with renting a big rear end sander. They did it in a day with a couple guys and it looks better than if I would have done it for the first time, surely. It pulled up on one spot where the wife's tire contacts it (a little patch maybe 1"x3" or so) but came with a warranty. If only I could remember the company that did it in the first place...
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I did mine with a water based epoxy from a professional paint supplier called Topline Paint here in Adelaide, Dunno if you can get it elsewhere in the world. I was lucky tho, cos I didnt put a THING on it for a month after it went down I didnt have to deal with any grinding or anything, just had to wash, degrease, acid wash and rinse the floor with water, then two coats of paint.
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Dad sealed his in 2005 with rustoleum professional grade epoxy and it's held up great. He borrowed a massive car hauler from a friend and moved everything from the garage into that for the week or whatever it took.
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Garagejournal has a whole subforum dedicated to floor coatings, there are a lot of vendors on there with a lot of different options. A top coat looks the prettiest and makes cleaning up spills easy but it's not going to hold up to grinding, welding and having stuff dropped on it. Treating the concrete with a densifier and sealer will almost make it impervious to soaking in liquids and it won't be affected by hot slag. Porcelain tile is the best of both worlds but yikes at the cost and installation.
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The Obsessed Garage guy much prefers Swisstrax to Epoxy coatings.
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That's waaaay more per sqft than a good poly coating. I spent about $1000 for 650sqft.
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My brother and I did our mother's garage for like $400. I'm just going to hire someone to do mine next year.
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When I build a garage I'm thinking terrazzo for the floor, the binder these days is epoxy and basically modern terrazzo is impermeable.
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