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I said come in! posted:This doesn't really mean much! Anthem is also in the top 5 best selling games of 2019. I would say that Massive continuing to push out free content updates as planned is not indicative of "mostly abandoning" their roadmap, and certainly not comparable to what happened with Anthem.
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exquisite tea posted:I would say that Massive continuing to push out free content updates as planned is not indicative of "mostly abandoning" their roadmap, and certainly not comparable to what happened with Anthem. If they got back on track, then great! But the whole situation with rolling back content with no plans to add it back, was a super bad look when it happened. I am still not convinced that Division 2 has a healthy playerbase. In my experience with online games, there only been active players in the end game, is the exact opposite of healthy.
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Oct 22, 2019 17:54
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You also have to remember regarding Anthem being a best seller that they get to count people playing through Origin Access as "sales", they did that for both Anthem and BF5.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:57
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Not only that, but don't they consider what stores buy from the publisher as sales? We've seen plenty of examples of stores that considerably over-bought anthem and have bins full of it, just trying desperately to get a measly few bucks out of them.
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Oct 22, 2019 19:04
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I mean from what I heard about The Division 2 (which I bought on PC and barely played), they really screwed up the end game which I guess is a staple of the entire live service genre. I didn't realize until I watched that Jimquisition that Anthem actually sold well. If that is the case, what exactly is Bioware's reasoning for dropping it? Not enough MTX sales? Does this game even have things you can spend real money on? An orange version of the already orange iron man suit? edit: oh, the origin thing. so sales are bs. gotcha
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Oct 22, 2019 19:41
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Cutedge posted:I mean from what I heard about The Division 2 (which I bought on PC and barely played), they really screwed up the end game which I guess is a staple of the entire live service genre. Origin AND Graphics Card pack ins. It's messing with the stars rather than genuine success.
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Oct 22, 2019 19:46
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My impression was that there was a lot of initial interest. A lot of people played the game as it launched But there was zero reason to stay so everyone left. You can't make money on a game everyone left
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Oct 22, 2019 19:50
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chiasaur11 posted:Origin AND Graphics Card pack ins. It's messing with the stars rather than genuine success. Division 2 was also an AMD pack in. I got it with a ryzen processor. I played up to WT2, fun enough game but I didn't really see any point in doing anything at level cap. (well, I guess technically I wasn't at level cap if I hadn't advanced the world tiers enough?)
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Oct 22, 2019 20:04
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Div 2 was a lot of fun and then suddenly extremely boring and the raid completely sucked balls. Edit: If IRL friends ever get into it I'd play again.
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Oct 22, 2019 21:48
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Cutedge posted:...If that is the case, what exactly is Bioware's reasoning for dropping it? High development costs, failure to succeed as a 'Games as a Service'. Easiest way to distill the issue is to think of it like an EA Executive: "Is this game selling as well as FIFA?"
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Oct 22, 2019 22:27
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hobbesmaster posted:They had a clueless player insert to ask "what the gently caress is going on" but as you said they cut everything down. The best/worst part is that theres no meaningful difference in content. Its not like say Witcher 2 or Alpha Protocol where you get locked out of sections of the game based on decisions. This is a page late and not Anthem related but I’ll never turn down an opportunity to get mad about Mass Effect 3. The fact that Shepherd was on auto-pilot with their lines was annoying. Mass Effect 1, we’re you’re dictating pretty much every response to a conversation vs ME3 where it felt like you got to make a choice every 30 minutes of dialogue and it would be 50:50 as to whether it’s remotely related to the prompt description.
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Oct 22, 2019 22:35
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Cutedge posted:I mean from what I heard about The Division 2 (which I bought on PC and barely played), they really screwed up the end game which I guess is a staple of the entire live service genre. Officially Bioware hasn't dropped it. They've abandoned their roadmap and made the laziest possible low effort content additions, and regularly go several weeks at a time without engaging with their community. But they still maintain when asked that they're committed to supporting the game. It's mind boggling that the last few stans still believe it.
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Oct 22, 2019 22:38
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I said come in! posted:Jim Sterling tears into Anthem today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgifZjKd6-A I don't know who Jim Sterling is, but I'm not sure he could be more obnoxious if he tried. The content is good and accurate and interesting, but holy poo poo.
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Oct 23, 2019 00:16
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Think thats partially the point
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Oct 23, 2019 00:52
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He's rather self aware, and I think in his free time he likes being a 'heel' wrestler for whatever local backyard wrestling federation is going on at his location. Seems to sum up and explain everything well enough.
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Oct 23, 2019 02:53
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The content is the same regurgitated pablum we've all heard 100 times. If you want to save yourself some time, just imagine what Sterling's take on anything would be and you'll be right every time.
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Oct 23, 2019 12:48
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5er posted:He's rather self aware, and I think in his free time he likes being a 'heel' wrestler for whatever local backyard wrestling federation is going on at his location. Seems to sum up and explain everything well enough. The best part is that his entire amateur wrestling career started because he needed latex for a short bit on a show and it just spiralled out from there. I love my husky brit(who lives in the southern US openly as a lefty gay man so if your wondering why he might have a chip on his shoulder that’s part of it)
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Oct 23, 2019 16:14
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He has a wife and at least one kind and lives in a poly relationship. Also, he's an outrage Youtuber, so of course most of his videos are going to be about faux outrage. Lambert fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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Oct 23, 2019 16:17
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shut up Lambert
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Oct 23, 2019 16:28
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I said come in! posted:This doesn't really mean much! Anthem is also in the top 5 best selling games of 2019. Sounds like we deserve a sequel.
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Oct 23, 2019 16:30
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Jim's bi as far as I know. I do remember vaguely some specific Jimquisition where he made fun of homophobes a lot though and talked about sucking cock for five minutes straight or something like that.
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Oct 23, 2019 16:37
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SpazmasterX posted:Sounds like we deserve a sequel. Our fate is worst than a Anthem sequel, it's Dragon Age 4.
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I said come in! posted:Our fate is worst than a Anthem sequel, it's Dragon Age 4. I stole their breeches!!!!!!!!
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Oct 23, 2019 16:50
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I said come in! posted:Our fate is worst than a Anthem sequel, it's Dragon Age 4. I couldn't finish the third one because I got tired of encountering random world-mobs that spawned out of thin air every 10 loving seconds.
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Oct 23, 2019 16:54
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It's always been perplexing to me why Bioware feel like they need to restructure their games SO MUCH between sequels. Couldn't they just have made another qaint fantasy adventure questing game after Dragon Age: Origins? Why did they try to revamp everything? Why did they revamp everything again for Dragon Age: Inquisition? It felt like playing a single player MMO They did the same thing with Mass Effect Andromeda. Suddenly massive portions of the game was about racing around in desolate landscapes fighting braindead A.I. They tried to bring back the open world segments from ME:1 and just forgot the quality of everything else
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Oct 23, 2019 16:58
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with dragon age 2 they wanted to crap out a sequel in practically under a year and that's why that turned out the way it did. with dragon age inquisition they had to start using a completely new game engine (frostbite) that was intended for first person shooters. with mass effect andromeda, the entire project had absolutely no direction or goal from the get go and through the first 3 or so years of the 5 year development cycle.
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After Dragon Age II and ESPECIALLY after Mass Effect 3, BioWare have basically zero confidence in any of their ideas. They're unable to iterate on anything and operate from a position of cringing apology, hoping only that a technical snafu won't become a meme gif
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Can't wait for the NPC to start talking to you then their lips curl upwards infinitely, wrapping behind their head and revealing just two floating eyes and teeth
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Cowcaster posted:with dragon age 2 they wanted to crap out a sequel in practically under a year and that's why that turned out the way it did. with dragon age inquisition they had to start using a completely new game engine (frostbite) that was intended for first person shooters. with mass effect andromeda, the entire project had absolutely no direction or goal from the get go and through the first 3 or so years of the 5 year development cycle. Is Frostbite the engine where it’s so designed around FPS games that all character objects have to have a gun attached to them? I think I remember one of the Need for Speed devs complaining that all their cars have an invisible gun model inside them.
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Pulcinella posted:Is Frostbite the engine where it’s so designed around FPS games that all character objects have to have a gun attached to them? I think I remember one of the Need for Speed devs complaining that all their cars have an invisible gun model inside them. dunno about that one but they did have to make everything from scratch including basic save game functionality and inventory etc.
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Cowcaster posted:with dragon age 2 they wanted to crap out a sequel in practically under a year and that's why that turned out the way it did. with dragon age inquisition they had to start using a completely new game engine (frostbite) that was intended for first person shooters. with mass effect andromeda, the entire project had absolutely no direction or goal from the get go and through the first 3 or so years of the 5 year development cycle. But if they wanted to make a game in such a short time why did they make so many changes to the engine and combat and even the structure of the story?
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2house2fly posted:But if they wanted to make a game in such a short time why did they make so many changes to the engine and combat and even the structure of the story? they have incompetent project management
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Oct 23, 2019 19:13
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Pattonesque posted:they have incompetent project management I imagine they could have done so much more if they had stuck with the Unreal engine.
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Oct 23, 2019 20:25
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god this game was promising let someone copy the jump jet animation and make the game it was meant to be
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moist turtleneck posted:god this game was promising lol
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Oct 25, 2019 01:08
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As a concept, without taking into account the actual game that was released I would agree that there was promise
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Oct 25, 2019 01:27
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Moola posted:lol
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NeurosisHead posted:As a concept, without taking into account the actual game that was released I would agree that there was promise hard disagree
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Oct 25, 2019 01:56
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What's left at  (above the line) couldn't make a good game if they tried.So they decided not to try at all.
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NeurosisHead posted:As a concept, without taking into account the actual game that was released I would agree that there was promise it was destiny 2 with one more class and better powers, that just isn't enough for "promise", that's stagnation and decay
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