|
Its not Outer Worlds fault that it had to follow Disco Elysium or Outer Wilds (which also basically has the same name)
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:18
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 05:50 |
|
|
i dont think im going to play any more the outer worlds. there's like a billion games on this microsoft game pass thing i paid a buck for, any recommendations?
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:18
|
|
|
Calibanibal posted:Leave Outer Worlds alone outer worlds does the han solo intercom gag from new hope at least three different times in three different quests
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:19
|
|
|
Calibanibal posted:Its not Outer Worlds fault that it had to follow Disco Elysium or Outer Wilds (which also basically has the same name) Also DE is great example of getting humor and political satire right in terms of adding something to the game atmosphere.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:21
|
|
|
getting lukewarm on outer worlds but lets not say insane things like fallout 4 is better jfc. for one you can just power thru the story in outer worlds without half the game being combining trash in your inventory
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:22
|
|
|
who wants to play worms wmd
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:22
|
|
|
Farm Frenzy posted:getting lukewarm on outer worlds but lets not say insane things like fallout 4 is better jfc. for one you can just power thru the story in outer worlds without half the game being combining trash in your inventory i love the trash im the trash man i log on and i start eating garbage
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:23
|
|
|
it just feels kinda undercooked? the open areas have mostly turned out to be a bunch of empty buildings and you end up passing everything in a big winding loop. its like the new vegas campaign but every quest is from the DLC
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:23
|
|
|
Al! posted:otoh i remember being amazed when they did this kind of stuff in the first metroid prime That all works because you're perceiving the world through Samus' helmet, all the holographic popups and even the glass itself are incorporated visual elements to achieve a very distinctive effect. its not fair to compare Outer Worlds to that kind of masterpiece
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:24
|
|
|
Al! posted:just play new vegas again, its not like outer worlds looks any better than new vegas with a rendering mod yeah the game is worse than new vegas in almost every way. the writing and world building is not comparable. the world feels no less empty despite not being open world. mechanically the combat is a bit better but the guns and the skills and the perks are all waaay worse. also since there are just 3 ammo types and you can break down any weapon for universal repair parts them might as well have removed ammo and durability from the game.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:24
|
|
|
Mercrom posted:yeah the game is worse than new vegas in almost every way. the writing and world building is not comparable. the world feels no less empty despite not being open world. mechanically the combat is a bit better but the guns and the skills and the perks are all waaay worse. also since there are just 3 ammo types and you can break down any weapon for universal repair parts them might as well have removed ammo and durability from the game. [snaps fingers] DEUS EX INVISIBLE WAR thats what outer worlds reminds me of
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:26
|
|
|
brutal
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:27
|
|
|
the most confusing part for me so far has been the stealth system which is completely pointless since all enemies cant see you unless youre 10 meters away shooting at them like in an mmo. i keep trying to talk to marauders because they arent shooting at me and doing a big double take
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:27
|
|
|
rope kid didn't work on outer worlds, so stuff doesn't feel rightly punchy and guns are inaccurate as poo poo
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:28
|
|
|
How hard is it to make a font size slider, Outer World's text is so stupidly tiny 
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:30
|
|
|
Mercrom posted:mechanically the combat is a bit better but the guns and the skills and the perks are all waaay worse. also since there are just 3 ammo types and you can break down any weapon for universal repair parts them might as well have removed ammo and durability from the game. this was the thing I found to be really true, once you learn how to juice your combat effectiveness through your build and playstyle the concern of managing resources loses all meaning I finished a hard mode run over 5k in each ammo type, over 1k weapon parts, and over 300 inhaler uses because I moused over every shelf and pressed E at every outlined object as is custom maybe on SUPERNOVA it would be different but lmao gently caress that
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:32
|
|
|
im going to play through the rest of the game pretending its one of those 5 or 6 east euro fallout spiritual successors that come on steam every year
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:34
|
|
|
the awful beginner lovely "assault" rifle in new vegas goes pop pop pop pop and it feels great even though you're only dealing 18 damage none of the weapons in outer worlds feels good to shoot nor do they feel like you're hitting hard enough to matter unless you're using a plasma rifle, and shotguns are just the worst, a cardinal sin in this type of game
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:34
|
|
|
etalian posted:I always like how games throw in things that only effect cameras in the real world like motion blur or chromatic aberration. This is not the case with OW but one thing that really pisses me off these days is how devs keep slapping motion blur and chromatic aberration into everything, but you still have to beg for them to get off their asses and give something people actually need like a fov setting so that we don't get motion sickness playing their games.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:36
|
|
|
Farm Frenzy posted:im going to play through the rest of the game pretending its one of those 5 or 6 east euro fallout spiritual successors that come on steam every year Well, if you got the 1 euro game pass thing, it kinda is...
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:38
|
|
|
there's also some kind of elemental resistance/vulnerability system at play but gently caress if I know how it works because I just made the strongest sniper rifle I could make and clicked on heads in bullet time for the back half of the game
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:38
|
|
|
Calibanibal posted:Leave Outer Worlds alone i will after i beat in 15 hours of swinging a stick at every npc
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:45
|
|
|
SpaceGoku posted:there's also some kind of elemental resistance/vulnerability system at play but gently caress if I know how it works because I just made the strongest sniper rifle I could make and clicked on heads in bullet time for the back half of the game it seems to use the same flat reduction armor system as new vegas which is stupid because the variance in single-shot damage between weapons is immense, and there are no ammo types to give fast firing weapons and shotguns armor penetration. the highest per-shot bullet weapon in new vegas only did 110 damage but still had an immensely slow fire rate and rare ammo type to compensate for that, since the armor penetration and long range capabilities made it worth using.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 15:53
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 16:08
|
|
|
the outer worlds is great, it's like if old world blues was a whole game and I like that that
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 16:14
|
|
|
Al! posted:[snaps fingers] DEUS EX INVISIBLE WAR BOOM
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 16:16
|
|
|
Mercrom posted:it seems to use the same flat reduction armor system as new vegas which is stupid because the variance in single-shot damage between weapons is immense, and there are no ammo types to give fast firing weapons and shotguns armor penetration. the highest per-shot bullet weapon in new vegas only did 110 damage but still had an immensely slow fire rate and rare ammo type to compensate for that, since the armor penetration and long range capabilities made it worth using. One of the highest damage sniper rifles in New Vegas was found near a Johnny 5 Aces skeleton corpse with massive balls and also was a reference to the failed perverted YCS sub-forum.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 16:26
|
|
|
I'm enjoying Outer Worlds so far and feel driven by my desire to light the Board on fire. Writing definitely doesn't take the same kind of risks as DE, but it still works as a anti-Fallout. Also does a good job of scratching that "scavenge 3D environments for supplies" itch. Playing on Hard, so the combat's taking a little getting used to. First few guns are obviously dogshit to the point where NPCs straight up tell you how unreliable they are (because they're made by the shithole company that's loving everything up), but I took an assault rifle off a marauder and modded it to be useful within the first hour or so. Also found an energy pistol that works well against armored targets. Time dilation is both neat and useful.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 16:37
|
|
|
Al! posted:[snaps fingers] DEUS EX INVISIBLE WAR Harsh
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 16:49
|
|
|
my face exactly on hearing outer worlds is unimpressive
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 16:53
|
|
|
im having a really hard time giving a poo poo about any characters in The Outer Worlds, and the world itself lacks character. the whole game is starting to feel tedious. im so glad i didn't buy the $60 version. idk if the main story gets up but even then every step of the way you get like 3 side quests to do in order progress the main quest, and every character just goes on and on with faux-folksy affect, goddamn just get to the loving point. I also don't like that you have to accept like half the quests offered before you get any details about what the quest itself actually is. Proletarian Mango has issued a correction as of 17:02 on Oct 26, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 16:59
|
|
|
I'm enjoying playing it but yeah the more I play the more it reminds me of Fallout 4 where its not really an rpg its a looter shooter with bad loot and bad shoot. Mind you there's something about sneaking around chunky tech facilities stealing everything not nailed down that scratches an itch and I've played a lot of it already. Its much better playing and the quests are way better organised than new Vegas so you can sorta just zoom through. I feel like the guns felt better in NV but I played that modded. The writing has got to the point where I just skip through things though, it's really not good. I was actually hopeful that an obsidian game not written by avellone would be an improvement and wow it really isn't, it's very mediocre and exactly as poor as your average games writing. Like just painfully dumb and it tries to reference scientific or political concepts without having any understanding of them, nobody even googled "anarchism" for example even though there's a bakunin reference. I'm on some planet where there's some rebels who my character refers to as anarchists, the game refers to as revolutionaries and there's meant to be a spiritualist/materialist split in them but nobody writing it has any idea what those terms mean and didn't bother to look them up. Whenever someone tries to engage you in a philosophical or political discussion, which happens occasionally, their dialogue and your responses are so loving stupid I don't know why the writers even bothered to try. It's painfully lib too, the responses NEVER allow you to side fully with any kind of rebels or outlaws it's just you scolding them or concern trolling them. And the corps are so loving evil that this is just bizzare.
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 17:01
|
|
|
Obvs the politics was never gonna be good but I think the other thing by which DE ruins it in comparison is that there is never any consequence to what response you pick, no matter how rude or lovely, and any response with a skill check magically solves the problem. The two stupidest examples I can think of are when you execute Parvatis boss and she freaks out, you get a companion skill check where you're like "I did it 4 u hunny" and shes pissed off and says she didn't want you to do it and doesn't need that kind of help, but still agrees to stay with you regardless. Another bit is when I was convincing a Corp soldier to gently caress off and let some rebels go and he goes "you can't just come here and fix all this with your pretty words, we can't leave" and I click persuade like "but wot if its dangerous 2 stay m8?" and he goes "OK were leaving, here take my keys"
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 17:06
|
|
|
Skills checks in Outer Worlds be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvu5Ephsqyk
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 17:09
|
|
|
snoremac posted:curious: what happens if you fail karaoke? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRZs8RLzNGk
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 17:14
|
|
|
Apraxin posted:magic happens wow this is unkind to the limbic system
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 17:18
|
|
|
Apraxin posted:magic happens Kim's line when you fail 
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 17:31
|
|
|
everybody loved it, don't listen to their lies it's the perfect example how sometimes in this game, the failing option is superior
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 17:47
|
|
|
it is absolutely true that DE makes the outer worlds look like a crayon drawing of a game i am for sure enjoy outer worlds but I think everyone's making valid points about its shortcomings
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 17:55
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 05:50 |
|
|
Over Easy posted:it is absolutely true that DE makes the outer worlds look like a crayon drawing of a game Outer Worlds isn't really bad it's just extremely average. The fact that you can get it for a buck is definitely a plus though, if I had paid $60 for it I'd have been pissed
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2019 18:14
|
|