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Oko is so good that he's become a staple in every single format of Magic to the point where people are cutting a Black Lotus to play him in Vintage.
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Oct 27, 2019 21:47
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Looking forward to the next set where we get a 2 mana 5 loyalty walker that ruins the meta
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Oct 27, 2019 22:03
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pointsofdata posted:They should change the rules so that deathtouch works on planeswalker s WAR Vraska does that
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Oct 27, 2019 22:07
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pointsofdata posted:I agree, it was an important card in field decks too. Especially with Nissa around it generates so much value. It'll be pretty funny if they ban it instead of Oko though Speaking of Oko... I just opened my second Oko from F2P packs! On top of that, opening that same pack unlocked a Vault for me!? I thought vaults were practically impossible to get if you've never spent any money.
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Oct 27, 2019 22:23
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i drafted eldraine cuz i noticed i was still unranked for the month and holy crap what a pile of poo poo
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Oct 27, 2019 22:25
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Doltos posted:You know whats worse than Oko in standard is Oko in limited
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Oct 27, 2019 22:42
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Current draft in Bo1 I made a BG food deck. Currently 3-0, and have yet to face a mill deck. Maybe the bots are better?
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Oct 27, 2019 22:55
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TheMaestroso posted:Current draft in Bo1 I made a BG food deck. Currently 3-0, and have yet to face a mill deck. Maybe the bots are better? they're not
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Oct 27, 2019 22:59
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Zero VGS posted:On top of that, opening that same pack unlocked a Vault for me!? I thought vaults were practically impossible to get if you've never spent any money. TheMaestroso posted:Current draft in Bo1 I made a BG food deck. Currently 3-0, and have yet to face a mill deck. Maybe the bots are better?
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Oct 27, 2019 23:04
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I've given up in Oko mirror wars and I'm having a lot of fun with Mogwai's Grixis Fires list from Day 2 MCQ. Just won my last game three with elderspelling everything into an instant Lili ult. Much more fun than nut drawing Oko on 2. https://aetherhub.com/Deck/Public/179269 4 Swamp (M20) 272 2 Dismal Backwater (M20) 245 4 Blood Crypt (RNA) 245 3 Steam Vents (GRN) 257 4 Watery Grave (GRN) 259 1 Temple of Epiphany (M20) 253 3 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244 1 Mountain (M20) 276 1 Island (M20) 268 4 Fires of Invention (ELD) 125 3 Drawn from Dreams (M20) 56 3 Fae of Wishes (ELD) 44 2 Chandra, Awakened Inferno (M20) 127 2 Liliana, Dreadhorde General (WAR) 97 3 Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God (WAR) 207 1 The Elderspell (WAR) 89 2 Enter the God-Eternals (WAR) 196 2 Ritual of Soot (GRN) 84 1 Noxious Grasp (M20) 110 4 Narset, Parter of Veils (WAR) 61 3 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97 3 Castle Vantress (ELD) 242 4 Thought Erasure (GRN) 206 1 Time Wipe (WAR) 223 1 Unmoored Ego (GRN) 212 1 Planewide Celebration (WAR) 172 1 Legion's End (M20) 106 2 Enter the God-Eternals (WAR) 196 1 The Elderspell (WAR) 89 1 Casualties of War (WAR) 187 3 Duress (M20) 97 1 Tamiyo, Collector of Tales (WAR) 220 3 Noxious Grasp (M20) 110
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Oct 27, 2019 23:07
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Dpulex posted:Looking forward to the next set where we get a 2 mana 5 loyalty walker that ruins the meta Wren and Six already did that for legacy.
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Oct 27, 2019 23:11
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TheMaestroso posted:Current draft in Bo1 I made a BG food deck. Currently 3-0, and have yet to face a mill deck. Maybe the bots are better? They're not but also, my personal experience has been that BG food is maybe the best archetype regardless. Get enough decent pieces to make putting it together worthwhile and throw in a couple of Forever Youngs if possible and it can take on most things pretty reliably.
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Oct 27, 2019 23:33
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Lol I know I suck but I just made it into Platinum for the first time ever, I had an hour long fight against an Oko/Nissa deck with my Doom Foretold poo poo. It took me having to deal them 200+ damage from all the food tokens they ate and the two Krasis they fired off, but I managed to kill them using the Liliana Dreadhorde Ultimate, Kaya Orzhov Usurper Ultimate, alpha strike with 20 creatures, and Oath of Kaya for the final point of damage with 3 cards left in my library. They nearly decked me because Liliana's card draw isn't optional.
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Oct 27, 2019 23:44
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:WAR Vraska does that They said "should change the rules" and you brought up one card...
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Oct 27, 2019 23:52
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Well, it's kinda relevant, in that if they're going to push walkers down to 2 and 3 mana they need to stop being reserved about stuff affecting walkers. WAR has tons of stuff that works differently because it's a walker set then they immediately regressed on that but printed more overpowered 3 cmc walkers. (Sorin is a great example of what a 3 cmc walker should look like, though imo, his ultimate shouldn't be available the turn he comes down)
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Oct 27, 2019 23:57
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The Sean posted:They said "should change the rules" and you brought up one card... Yeah dawg I was tossing out a factoid
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Oct 28, 2019 00:01
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loving looooool, I try to remove someone's Wilderness Reclamation, they bounce it back to their hand and go "Oops, oops, good game, oops", cast an Explosion on me for 28, it causes them to deck themselves at the same time and the game is a draw.
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Oct 28, 2019 00:40
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I was just thoroughly hosed up by a mono white deck with sephara as comander and every other card being a white flyer, this is what brawl is all about. It's also about having the mono green questing beast deck guy instantly concede when I play the blightbeetle I drew from my free mulligan If they make Brawl permanent this is all I'm gonna play for a while
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Oct 28, 2019 02:36
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Simone Poodoin posted:I was just thoroughly hosed up by a mono white deck with sephara as comander and every other card being a white flyer, this is what brawl is all about. Ironically, Protection from Green will not work completely when Questing Beast is out there as protection effects specifically prevent damage, and the QB says that combat damage may not be prevented. Just something to keep in mind so you don't get got!
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Oct 28, 2019 02:49
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Zero VGS posted:Speaking of Oko... I just opened my second Oko from F2P packs! opening the vault requires 900 commons or 300 uncommons (or a combination of those). every (nondraft) booster you open will get you 1% of the way there if the 3 commons and 2 uncommons are all duplicates. i've done 20 limited events of ELD (3 sealed, rest draft) and i've gotten about half a vault's worth of stuff, and i haven't used any wildcards or opened any boosters yet. if i wanted to get REAL OPTIMAL, i'd be using my c/u wildcards to pad out cards i don't have 4x everytime i was going to draft one, but that's more effort than it's worth.
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Oct 28, 2019 02:50
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AngryBooch posted:Ironically, Protection from Green will not work completely when Questing Beast is out there as protection effects specifically prevent damage, and the QB says that combat damage may not be prevented. Just something to keep in mind so you don't get got! Good to know, thanks. I honestly don't know why the dude didn't even try, and I would have totally get got when the questing beast went out
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Oct 28, 2019 02:51
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What exactly is GB Adventures supposed to beat right now? It seems to me that it loses to Oko, Selesnya, Monored and Simic with decent starts and Esper.
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Oct 28, 2019 03:18
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Lone Goat posted:if i wanted to get REAL OPTIMAL, i'd be using my c/u wildcards to pad out cards i don't have 4x everytime i was going to draft one, but that's more effort than it's worth. It's a hassle
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Oct 28, 2019 03:31
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Kawabata posted:What exactly is GB Adventures supposed to beat right now? It seems to me that it loses to Oko, Selesnya, Monored and Simic with decent starts and Esper. I play Selesnya Adventure and I actually think the GB variant has the edge in the matchup. They have more ways to kill my Innkeepers than I do theirs, and the decks are starting to include Finality, which is backbreaking.
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Oct 28, 2019 03:32
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qbert posted:I play Selesnya Adventure and I actually think the GB variant has the edge in the matchup. They have more ways to kill my Innkeepers than I do theirs, and the decks are starting to include Finality, which is backbreaking. They'll kill the innkeepers at 3 lands if they're lucky and they're not already in a desperate situation board wise and the deck runs maybe 3 finality but usually 2. You can run 4, sure, but it kind of makes it worse against other matchups. Maybe it's me and I don't get the deck. It's obviously not as aggressive as Selesnya or RDW or even Simic Flash, it doesn't have the value plays of Oko decks and it crumbles against slower control decks like the current Esper. What am I supposed to do with the 6 lovely creatures (4x Foulmire and 2x Midnight) that are only there to synergize with my draw engine when I draw them at the wrong time? What exactly am I sacrificing to Rankle when I need to remove something but my board only has good creatures on it? Those 2 things happen way more often than I'd like. It may be variance but still, I feel there are a lot of bad cards in it that are only there to make you draw more and a bunch of others like Rankle and Nissa that don't really work that well in the deck to begin with. Kawabata fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Oct 28, 2019 03:45
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Kawabata posted:They'll kill the innkeepers at 3 lands if they're lucky and they're not already in a desperate situation board wise and the deck runs maybe 3 finality but usually 2. You can run 4, sure, but it kind of makes it worse against other matchups. Chris Kvartek is doing really well with his version. Made it to another Mythic Championship this weekend: https://twitter.com/Kavartech/status/1188576232188923907 https://magic.wizards.com/en/esports/mcqw/2019/mcvii-decklists-1 Search his twitter handle on that page. The WotC website is still a piece of trash you can't export decks from.
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Oct 28, 2019 04:02
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AngryBooch posted:Chris Kvartek is doing really well with his version. Made it to another Mythic Championship this weekend: Thanks, I hope I'll find some videos of him playing the deck because I can never find someone streaming GB Adventures for some reason. I feel like there are some turns where I probably don't make the less intuitive plays and I need to see what a good player usually mulligans against what. EDIT: yeah his deck is pretty different from what I'm playing right now, cool to see he included Massacre Girl, Liliana, Vraska and got rid of Vivien and Nissa. Kawabata fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Oct 28, 2019 04:21
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Are we in a new Black Summer
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Oct 28, 2019 05:23
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why did a stonecoil serpent die when it blocked my hydroid krasis 
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Oct 28, 2019 05:31
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Relin posted:why did a stonecoil serpent die when it blocked my hydroid krasis If Questing Beast was out, that would overrule the damage prevention part of Protection from Multicolored. Same if the Smash side of Bonecrusher Giant was used earlier in the turn.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:39
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Was there Stomp, was there Questing Beast, I post this a lot on redditCharlieFoxtrot posted:Are we in a new Black Summer HasbrOko winter?
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Oct 28, 2019 05:40
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Khizan posted:If Questing Beast was out, that would overrule the damage prevention part of Protection from Multicolored. Same if the Smash side of Bonecrusher Giant was used earlier in the turn.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:51
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Kawabata posted:Thanks, I hope I'll find some videos of him playing the deck because I can never find someone streaming GB Adventures for some reason. I feel like there are some turns where I probably don't make the less intuitive plays and I need to see what a good player usually mulligans against what. I’ll tell you that Foulmire Knight is amazing and clogs the board makes attacks very lovely for a lot of matchups and Order of Midnight is there to rebuy all your threats. Adding Vraska to the mainboard over questing beast is probably correct in the meantime, too bad I have Zero
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Oct 28, 2019 06:18
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Bust Rodd have you tried Kethis in Brawl yet I enjoy Kethis almost as much as I enjoy QuestCleave
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Oct 28, 2019 06:32
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Bust Rodd posted:I’ll tell you that Foulmire Knight is amazing and clogs the board makes attacks very lovely for a lot of matchups and Order of Midnight is there to rebuy all your threats. Yeah I only have 1 Vraska, not crafting others right away. Order of Midnight's spell is alright value wise but it's really slow. Deck feels very slow overall against aggro and not heavy enough for control matchups. 4x Noxious Grasp and Massacre Girl(s) might make things interesting I suppose. I don't know, without Goose and Grazer you get to your real threats way too late most of the time. Kawabata fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Oct 28, 2019 06:34
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Lovestruck Beast on T3 seems uh pretty good to me.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:36
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Bust Rodd posted:Lovestruck Beast on T3 seems uh pretty good to me. In a world where Oko doesn't exist, yes, unironically.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:37
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Spiderdrake posted:Was there Stomp, was there Questing Beast, I post this a lot on reddit Green Winter. Goddamn global warming.
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The thing that really bugs me with walkers generally, but other Legendaries as well, is that you can have multiple of them in a deck. It seems silly to have a card type specifically designed to be 'this is a unique individual' and allow you to have four of them in your deck, let alone the loving fifteen you can get of Chandra specifically. It really bugs me most to spend a decent amount of effort and resources to remove a troublesome planeswalker in a clever way, then just have them dump down a second copy, use its powerful -3 or whatever, then dump down a third copy. Like... there's only supposed to be one of this person, if you want to dump them out again, you should have to find some way to bring them back from the graveyard, surely? This may be why I like Brawl. Speaking of broken metas, is the bot setup for limited with War of the Spark any less lovely and heavily weighted towards mill than it is for Eldraine? I've got my weekly free access to a Bo1 draft coming up today and I'd like to pick one I have a chance to win in instead of mill in.
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