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I might enter, but probably not. I don’t even play Gooncrawl much these days. If someone puts a team together (name suggestion: Gooncrawlers), I’ll probably hop in and get my obligatory Minotaur and Barachi wins, but that’s about it.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:01 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:08 |
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Amethyst posted:Trunk traps are better sorry. I'll grant you the ones that aren't triggered on revealing tiles, no-save-gently caress-you-chance-gets-worse-on-depth-yes-even-in-Tomb-double-gently caress-you. Monsters triggering traps against you "deliberately" is pretty cool and has you consider your engagement more so than just being in a large empty room.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:02 |
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PMush Perfect posted:I might enter, but probably not. I don’t even play Gooncrawl much these days. If someone puts a team together (name suggestion: Gooncrawlers), I’ll probably hop in and get my obligatory Minotaur and Barachi wins, but that’s about it. Will not be participating in the tourney though
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:11 |
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Sage Grimm posted:I'll grant you the ones that aren't triggered on revealing tiles, no-save-gently caress-you-chance-gets-worse-on-depth-yes-even-in-Tomb-double-gently caress-you. Monsters triggering traps against you "deliberately" is pretty cool and has you consider your engagement more so than just being in a large empty room. Triggering on explore without mitigation methods is better than making the player fill out their tax forms to possibly avoid them.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:29 |
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And having a chance to mitigate them in a short period of time before they trigger would be best! 2-3 turns on reveal of "the dungeon warps weirdly, a sink hole appears/primal chaos surrounds you/translocation energies reach towards you!" to burn consumables either to get away from where you stand, buff up for the encounter or at least know what's going to happen to you. They innovated with the other traps, why don't they do the same here?
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 03:27 |
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If we throw a tournament together, let me know and I'll spam Vine Stalkers for 15 runers.Amethyst posted:Triggering on explore without mitigation methods is better than making the player fill out their tax forms to possibly avoid them. They removed Traps and Doors as a skill in, what, 0.10? Have you played Tomb in mainline Crawl? It's absurd. It's artificial difficulty for the sake of doing so. I'm waiting for someone to get the bright idea to reintroduce Shadow Traps with the new system.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 13:01 |
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They finally put up the 0.24 changelog. And tournament pagequote:Highlights
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 14:26 |
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That staff of battle is looking pretty pretty nice for my conjuration heavy favored playstyle
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 15:33 |
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FebrezeNinja posted:They finally put up the 0.24 changelog. And tournament page Stuff I noticed: -* Vampiric weapons no longer have a hunger cost upon wield. - Blowguns are removed, needles are replaced with throwing darts. - Dart effects scale with Throwing and Stealth skill. - A new dart brand, atropa is added. Atropa-tipped darts cause brief confusion and longer-lasting blindness in the target.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 16:36 |
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Those are some good changes, for once. Needles were always kind of a bother because being a status effect vector was the most useful thing about them, while the blowguns themselves really only gave them better accuracy and range. Reworking them into something you can always use, even if you can't find the associated (relatively rare and highly limited) weapon, was a much-needed improvement.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 16:49 |
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Quick port the vamp brand change to gooncrawl
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 18:05 |
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Friendship ended with squishy casters Minotaur is my new BFF. God I love axes.
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# ? Oct 26, 2019 08:52 |
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So I have a exe axe and holy longbow wielding centaur of TSO that I want to take to tomb. But tomb is bullshit now. What’s the way to do it melee/bows now that the stair dancing method is gone? Copious use of scrolls of fog? Edit: 61 ac, max resists everything and basically no spells bar portal projectile.
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# ? Oct 27, 2019 10:58 |
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My only tomb clear I had gozag and literally spammed bribe until it was clear. I full cleared the hell's for gold. That character was swole.
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# ? Oct 27, 2019 13:36 |
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Drone_Fragger posted:So I have a exe axe and holy longbow wielding centaur of TSO that I want to take to tomb. But tomb is bullshit now. What’s the way to do it melee/bows now that the stair dancing method is gone? Copious use of scrolls of fog? It's been a while since I played melee and went to the Tomb but I remember having better luck with Zin than with TSO. Sanctuary is a very powerful escape option. Also, Vitalisation protects you from a lot of the curse bullshit.
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# ? Oct 27, 2019 14:12 |
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The issue is more the rooms of tormenting enemies that also have summon demon and smite, which also don't have any cover so you can't break LOS easy. You can't stairdance anymore because the up and downstairs on tomb got made "one way" and aren't near eachother anymore. Previously melee could do tomb slowly by dragging nasties to the stiars and then splitting up the group so that you didn't get tagged for 4 torments a turn and smited 5 times to finish you off. With blaster casters it's fuckin piss easy. Just get necromutation and then firestorm everything on the entire screen till it is dead and cblink to the stairs if you're ever in any real threat.
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# ? Oct 27, 2019 21:53 |
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Doesn't Tomb have something that blocks CBlink, though? Been ages since I've actually been there, but I remember that being a thing.
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# ? Oct 27, 2019 22:02 |
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Cardiovorax posted:Doesn't Tomb have something that blocks CBlink, though? Been ages since I've actually been there, but I remember that being a thing. Nah, you can cblink fine in Tomb. If you an cast silence, tomb also becomes easier. Just died to an angel posse during the orb run with 14 runes... I figured I could take a win at least during the tournament, and the Ds mutations I got were really good. Otabbet through most of hell and pan.
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# ? Oct 27, 2019 22:15 |
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quote:Prior to 0.17, Controlled Blink was a level 7 spell. Additionally, use of this spell on difficult levels, such as The Tomb and final levels of a Ziggurat, resulted in an uncontrolled Blink, due to the (also deprecated) concept of Teleport Control.
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# ? Oct 27, 2019 22:36 |
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Jon Joe posted:Quick port the vamp brand change to gooncrawl Done, I'll reverse it if people want to vote on it instead. Sorry about being lazy as gently caress about other updates, a bunch of games came out and I've just been playing them on the weekends instead mostly (finished 100%-ing the Spyro trilogy recently after that came out on PC). I'll try to get back to finishing the menu paging, along with the conduct/mutators feature that I've been doing side by side with it (since both involve the new game menu). Spoilers for one that I'm releasing initially with that feature: -Every time you eat, mutate as if you ate a purple chunk
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 03:30 |
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Oh poo poo tourney??? So are we gonna form some teams or what
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 14:04 |
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Lawman 0 posted:Oh poo poo tourney??? that would require playing trunk, so no
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 14:39 |
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Floodkiller posted:Done, I'll reverse it if people want to vote on it instead. God's work you're doing, son. God's work.
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 16:35 |
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Floodkiller posted:conduct/mutators feature that I've been doing side by side with it (since both involve the new game menu). Spoilers for one that I'm releasing initially with that feature: wouldn't it be both easier and more flavorful to just replace all food with purple
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 17:00 |
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I'm new to this game, anyone want to explain the purple thing to me?
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 20:10 |
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Stockwell posted:I'm new to this game, anyone want to explain the purple thing to me?
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 20:14 |
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Mr. Lobe posted:That staff of battle is looking pretty pretty nice for my conjuration heavy favored playstyle I tested it out on wizmode because someone on reddit was saying that if you have it equipped you can't train Conjuration or Charms (everything trains fine). It auto casts Battlesphere when an enemy is visible for no mana. It recasts itself after one turn when it dies. And it seems to level up with you skills. (I didn't test the damage, but the max hp was going up). It's pretty much game breaking for low to mid level. You might eventually replace it once you're spamming fire storm or shatter, but even then having it as backup would be nice. Even without the extra damage having a perma summon is nice for swapping places or hiding behind it.
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 20:29 |
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Teal posted:wouldn't it be both easier and more flavorful to just replace all food with purple as a compulsive Gozag worshipper, this do not deny me my purple just because i like gold better
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 20:36 |
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redneck nazgul posted:as a compulsive Gozag worshipper, this It will apply to any eating.
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 20:42 |
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Floodkiller posted:It will apply to any eating. finally, a reason to summon a food shop when i'm not perma-zigging
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 20:53 |
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PMush Perfect posted:Purple chunks used to (in trunk), or do (in Gooncrawl, play Gooncrawl), give you a random mutation, positive or negative. "Eat the purple" is a common rallying cry of goons both because it makes runs more diverse/interesting, and because trunk removed it for never being "optimal". Ah okay, was playing regular .24 and I'm pretty sure I found some sort of mutation potion, at least it affected my stats and I grew horns. Do the chunks work a bit differently?
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 21:14 |
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Yeah, they do. There is a giant list of possible mutations that ranges from simple stat changes to growing plates of bone armor to developing the ability to teleport short distances. Some of these have a multiple stages and some are mutually exclusive. Eating a purp will pick a random mutation from that list and inflict you with one stage of it. It can be really good, it can be really bad - but it always is an interesting gamble.
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 21:23 |
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Stockwell posted:Ah okay, was playing regular .24 and I'm pretty sure I found some sort of mutation potion, at least it affected my stats and I grew horns. Do the chunks work a bit differently? Pretty much the same. Mutation potions give you more, but the random list of mutations is the same between chunks and potions. (Demonspawn are a race that gains different, more powerful mutations as they level up.)
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 21:27 |
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As of .21, Potions of Mutation remove mutations first before granting you new ones and are slightly weighted towards giving you good mutations, in addition to one guaranteed good mutation on top. Classic purple chunks do draw on the same list, but are also substantially more risky.
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 21:32 |
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Cardiovorax posted:Classic purple chunks do draw on the same list, but are also substantially more fun. Doesn't hurt that there are way, way more purple chunks available than mut pots.
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 22:07 |
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What would the best approach be to making a set of macros aimed at playing a kiting character. I'd like to have a set of keys assigned to take a step in the pressed direction and take a shot at the targeted enemy. It would make playing a centaur archer pretty efficient.
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 23:15 |
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tylertfb posted:What would the best approach be to making a set of macros aimed at playing a kiting character. I'd like to have a set of keys assigned to take a step in the pressed direction and take a shot at the targeted enemy. It would make playing a centaur archer pretty efficient. Tweak autofight to make an "unTab" function to step away from the nearest foe, then a macro that's untab-tab.
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# ? Oct 29, 2019 00:40 |
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Cleared my first Zig tonight. Got all 5 runes from pan. But still, somehow, I am completely helpless in Tomb. Hmmm I guess that's my fault for not thinking to pick ghoul. BECAUSE THERES NO OTHER COUNTER FOR SMITE AND TORMENT SPAM
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# ? Nov 3, 2019 06:33 |
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Lichform is right over there, man. Also doesn't Zin help v that nowadays? I just looked it up; not explicitly with torment/smite, but that laundry list of "don't die" and "get hosed, deamons" looks hella strong. I should play a Zin guy someday...
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Top ways to beat Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup: 1. Blowing yourself up with an immolation scroll. 2. Dying in a Zigguraut 3. 14. Rune Win 4. 3 Rune Win 5. Dying on D1 because you can't be assed to do more than tab 6. 15 Rune Win.
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