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Giro looks like they are trying to drag Froome to it again with the 3 time trials. Looks like a more exciting race than the Tour tbf.
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How short does the stage have to be to a prologue cause that Budapest stage looks like a prologue to me.
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I'm really glad the Giro are keeping the "gently caress you, 200km+ mountain stage" ethos of cycling alive, keep getting scared that everything will be 85km stages in Andorra in the future. Can't wait for May. I feel weird being excited about cycling again but apart from the weather-affected last week of the Tour I've enjoyed all of it this year, more than any other year since the first year that Sky Bullshit started. Don't want to give the UCI credit for anything but the team reduction and (probably more relevant) Tramadol ban, and better tests for AICAR seem to have helped, it was striking how the Sky train wasn't really able to get fully established at all this year (they won, but Bernal seems like a legitimate ridiculous talent), and good lord did their previously invincible domestiques suck rear end in and out of the tour. e) I reckon that Tom D with a stupid strong-looking Jumbo/Visma will crush the Giro, though. If he enters. Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Oct 28, 2019 15:13
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Long stages just don’t do anything for TV or for sponsors. Tradition is one of the main issues with the sport’s decline. Sure, put in one or two, but we don’t need those plus a couple more plus pan-flat transfe...sprinter stages.
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Oct 28, 2019 21:23
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it's probably because the sport is an impossible-to-completely-follow mess of competing rights holders, and also the residual effects of doping, and that it's a weird, notoriously beginner-unfriendly sport, not because "stages too long" (nobody is forcing you to watch the first 100k of the Ronde or the World Championships if you don't want to, you know, and it's only been recently that ASO have insisted on broadcasting every stage flag-to-flag anyway)
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HappyCamperGL posted:How short does the stage have to be to a prologue cause that Budapest stage looks like a prologue to me. quote:2.6.006 A prologue may be included in stage races on condition that: Fun fact: it doesn't say explicitly anywhere in the rules that a prologue has to be the first stage. There's just two lines that go like "... the first stage (or prologue) ...", which just means that a prologue can be the first stage, not that it has to be. 21st stage prologue when??
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didn't one of the recent Vueltas inexplicably end with like a 8km ITT
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also re: the short mountain stages= best thing, can't help but remember that the two best stages of last year's tour, Saint-Etienne and Foix Prat d'Albis were over 180k, the short Tourmalet stage was more or less raced tempo up to the last 500m, and the shortened Val Thorens stage was awful e) poo poo, even the Vuelta this year, the last two mountain stages were both won by really cool long range attacks, and they were 177 and 190k respectively. the two 150k mountain stages in the middle of the race were comparatively dull (Santuario del Acebo was raced so easily that sprinters were still in the peloton leading up to the last climb) Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:didn't one of the recent Vueltas inexplicably end with like a 8km ITT 2014, but it was 9.7 km, so not a prologue I'm currently reading the notes on the Giro stages and it's very  quote:The stage follows almost the same route as the famous Nove Colli amateur sportive. Upon reaching the foot of the Apennines, after leaving Cesenatico, the route undulates continuously to clear the nine hillocks of the sportive, five of which will award KOM points. Over the last 30 km, the peloton will ride across the plains, before reaching the seafront in Cesenatico. Love to undulate continuously to clear nine hillocks quote:A colossal Alpine stage with 5,000 m vertical altitude gain, crossing over to France. The riders will pass Colle dell'Agnello, Col d'Izoard and Monginevro, before the final climb up to Sestriere. According to many, this is a modern reinterpretation of the legendary Cuneo-Pinerolo. Many people are saying this!
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That's just a teaser for the weird prose on the RCS graphics where they try to explain which each town the race passes is famous for
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Feels Villeneuve posted:it's probably because the sport is an impossible-to-completely-follow mess of competing rights holders, and also the residual effects of doping, and that it's a weird, notoriously beginner-unfriendly sport, not because "stages too long" (nobody is forcing you to watch the first 100k of the Ronde or the World Championships if you don't want to, you know, and it's only been recently that ASO have insisted on broadcasting every stage flag-to-flag anyway) So what’s the point of having a whole bunch of long boring stages that nobody wants to watch again? Like I said, put in one or two...leave the rest out. Hell, that may even leave the riders fresh enough to consistently make those key stages a show. TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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You need roleur stages so a team can't just stack their squad full of fresh climbing superdomestiques, ie Sky For the same reason I don't think keeping everyone fresh is necessarily a good thing, the best climbing stages in the Vuelta this year were 18\20
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Feels Villeneuve posted:You need roleur stages so a team can't just stack their squad full of fresh climbing superdomestiques, ie Sky ??? Rouleurs like Kwiato and G ARE superdomestiques.
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This should be interesting: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/29/former-team-sky-doctor-richard-freeman-to-admit-he-told-a-lot-of-lies Guess the Sky payments dried up 
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> However O’Rourke denied the General Medical Council’s charge that Freeman’s “motive was to obtain testosterone to give to an athlete to improve an athlete’s performance”. Instead she claimed Freeman had got the testosterone at the request of Shane Sutton, who at the time was the head coach of Team Sky and British Cycling For completely non performance enhancing reasons, of course.
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It wasn't to improve anybody's performance, he just wanted it to compensate for the side effects of all the steroids.
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More proof that road cycling as a spectator sport is broken. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amgen-tour-california-cycling-road-210000445.html
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TobinHatesYou posted:More proof that road cycling as a spectator sport is broken. Weak. You’d have thought they’d find sponsors easily, and the budget for the whole shebang would be in easy reach of any random tech mogul in SF.
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wooger posted:Weak. You’d have thought they’d find sponsors easily, and the budget for the whole shebang would be in easy reach of any random tech mogul in SF. I bet the per-kilometer cost for a pro race in the USA (road closure, EMT / Cops / etc) is at least 20 times what it is in Euroland. And compared to that cost (FREE) in the oil dictatorship companies....
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tylertfb posted:I bet the per-kilometer cost for a pro race in the USA (road closure, EMT / Cops / etc) is at least 20 times what it is in Euroland. And compared to that cost (FREE) in the oil dictatorship companies.... I was on a group ride with the DS for Tibvo-SVB today and she was going on and on about road cycling being a dying sport, that's it not good for TV and that sponsors aren't really getting their money's worth. The fields are shrinking at every level...road cycling isn't dead, but it's been going downhill for years. Car culture and inflexibility / sticking to tradition are killing the sport.
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New subscribers only but a eurosport sub is cheap at the moment to cover the whole of the next year https://promo-gb.eurosportplayer.com/promo/all-sports/black-friday-2019 Of course it only takes a different email address to be a new sub I guess
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Is that with or without commercial breaks?
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As far as the regular channel streams go its the same as the satellite or cable channel would be, but you do every now and again get the raw feed as a separate channel for the tours
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SUNNY sunny sunny sunny sunny
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A Very Good Boi decided to participate in the Druivencross. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r5sKQPaTG70 
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cgfreak posted:A Very Good Boi decided to participate in the Druivencross. Thats the same breed as my dog and he has a similar love of chasing bicycles. In Grand Tour news the Vuelta is going up the Tourmalet and the Angliru is back.
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The Vuelta route seems bad. I don't mind them trying to attract top sprinters with quite a few flat stages (given the Olympics being more or less a GC rider's competition and how hard the Tour is), but Tourmalet in yet another mini stage, after the really boring one in the Tour? One of the best stages for a long range attack coming right before the Angrilu stage? The longest mountain stage being 175km?
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Not much CX chat itt but Namur was an absolute classic. The course was muddy, the weather was terrible, Iserbyt seems to have gotten hypothermia, just brutal conditions. Riders crashing left and right. Both the men’s and women’s races were entertaining but the men’s in particular was one of the best I can remember. Definitely check it out if you have access.
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apparently this race is canada only on flobikes, so... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTGMCHGPanE this poo poo was pretty transfixing. gotta feel bad for toon aerts though
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rngd in the womb posted:apparently this race is canada only on flobikes, so... You do. I saw this morning that he broke a rib so that sucks. He didn’t look too bad on the podium so hopefully he can continue, especially now that he’s the cup leader.
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Did Trek give Ellen Noble an old eTap 11spd Emonda instead of the new-new? https://www.instagram.com/p/B6gUyYil3bq/
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Tour Down Under wont have last years king of the mountains winner after he had his arm broken for not paying an entry fee to a national park. https://twitter.com/larrymontana/status/1210523363090862081 This is the response to someone not paying a 3 quid entry fee.
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His poor fragile bird bones.
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goatface posted:His poor fragile bird bones. This was my first thought too, they were rough but arm breaking rough?
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bone density is valuable grams
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There have been some medical studies showing a relationship between elite cyclists and low bone density, so it’s not out of the question.
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Van der Poel won 46 of the 69 races he competed in this year. https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1211379030773116928
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Worlds though...
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I’m still thinking about the Amstel Gold win over here.
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