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MS does the same, smartscreen, etc.
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Im_Special posted:MS does the same, smartscreen, etc.
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Oct 28, 2019 01:09
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Im_Special posted:MS does the same, smartscreen, etc.
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Oct 28, 2019 01:09
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I can’t find an answer by searching and I was hoping one of you could help. I’d like to setup a standard user account on my home PC that doesn’t have a password and gets automatically logged into when someone presses the power button. This is so that my Plex server will run and I don’t have to alternatively install some third-party thing that makes Plex a windows service. I’d still like to keep my windows admin account behind a password. I imagine that the way I’d use the computer is that when it gets turned on it goes right into that standard account, but then I’d “switch users” to the admin account and be prompted for a password. Is this possible? Thank you.
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Oct 28, 2019 01:18
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You can just add a second non-administrator account without a password. You might have to use netplwiz to make it automatically log in on startup if that's what you want. However you might be better off trying to use this thing to run Plex as a service: https://forums.plex.tv/t/pms-as-a-service/53381
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Oct 28, 2019 01:31
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Unless something's changed in the last few years, Microsoft provides all their virus definitions to third party AVs so everyone should have the same baseline. Third party AVs usually add their own stuff on top of that to justify their existence, and the results of that tend to be hit or miss (like when you nuke a system file on their suggestion). Defender isn't going to win in absolute threats caught, but that's a race they openly acknowledged giving up on to focus on their role as a baseline antivirus that you can set and forget for Grandpa or whoever. And unless you're habitually engaging in risky behavior that should be sufficient without pop-ups trying to upsell you on premium services or nag you about updating your registration code. I am curious about the false positives the link upthread reports, but I don't know the reputation of the site or their potential biases.
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Oct 28, 2019 01:53
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I honestly think the best feature of Defender is that on my notebook it'll stubbornly refuse to do its scheduled scans for literal months and then show the little yellow triangle complaining about how I should take action and perform a quick scan. Maybe it's still sulking about me immediately turning off its ridiculous "we didn't find anything" notification.
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Oct 28, 2019 02:59
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I believe it only runs scans when idle and plugged in, since most laptops are usually plugged in when charging and usually asleep or off, or being used since battery ran out it probably never gets a chance to run the scan
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Oct 28, 2019 03:03
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Celexi posted:I believe it only runs scans when idle and plugged in, since most laptops are usually plugged in when charging and usually asleep or off, or being used since battery ran out it probably never gets a chance to run the scan My notebook's battery is almost never plugged in, it's always running on AC. And I do leave it idle for extended periods of time, with it configured to only go to sleep after 3 hours while on AC. So I honestly don't know what more it would want.
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Oct 28, 2019 03:08
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Geemer posted:My notebook's battery is almost never plugged in, it's always running on AC. And I do leave it idle for extended periods of time, with it configured to only go to sleep after 3 hours while on AC. So I honestly don't know what more it would want. That is weird then as my laptop is the one that happens so I thought that was the cause, there must be something else to it then. My desktop does run its scans without my interaction though.
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Oct 28, 2019 03:12
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Combat Pretzel posted:So? What makes Microsoft's code so much better than a third party ones? It's a core component of the operating system, instead of some random third party. What aren't you getting? Combat Pretzel posted:How valuable access to the Windows source code is, is rather dubious. Perhaps if you've never used a computer before, you might say that.
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Oct 28, 2019 04:38
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A small snippet from the latest CU.code:I never noticed, I use the superior Open-Shell.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:46
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Meanwhile, lovely third-party AV breaks Windows on the regular. Or blocks updates for months. And often hooks into the system in non-standard was, making every Windows Update a tightrope walk. All antivirus software is certain amounts of snake oil, but if you're going to be using a resident scanner, nothing but Defender makes sense - unless you like living on the edge and installing dubious products by dubious companies. Also, Microsoft pours way more resources into Windows security than AV shops, and certainly understands their system much better. Just because some third-party programs for media playback are better than what Windows has built-in doesn't make AV one of those cases. Lambert fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Oct 28, 2019 07:48
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I’m more curious when the last time somebody could have reasonably recommended AVG was, especially on this forum. 2010?
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Oct 28, 2019 07:58
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Defender is the only antivirus Tavis Ormandy wasn't objectively horrified about, which is all you should need ever know to make your choice.
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Oct 28, 2019 11:51
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fishmech posted:It's a core component of the operating system, instead of some random third party. What aren't you getting?
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Oct 28, 2019 12:11
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windows defender is the least terrible AV by a fair margin. it's not good by any stretch, it's just the only one not making your already pos os actively worse
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Oct 28, 2019 12:17
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fishmac is ... right?Truga posted:windows defender is the least terrible AV by a fair margin. Very much this.
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Oct 28, 2019 12:17
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Combat Pretzel posted:Why am I even discussing with fishmech? It is a very good question why you'd try to defend McAfee or Kaspersky or Norton in this day and age, yes.
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Oct 28, 2019 13:31
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I just came to this thread to ask about is being argued about - is windows defender really the best AV software out there for a windows 10 machine? Any other security software folks would recommend? I've been out of the PC game for about 8 years and will be building a new one shortly running Windows 10.
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Oct 28, 2019 13:36
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Iron Lung posted:I just came to this thread to ask about is being argued about - is windows defender really the best AV software out there for a windows 10 machine? Any other security software folks would recommend? I've been out of the PC game for about 8 years and will be building a new one shortly running Windows 10.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:20
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Also, don't install any other "tuneup" or "cleanup"-type utilities; none of them are necessary. If you want to "clean up" your system, run Windows Disk Cleanup from time to time. Enable network protection https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/microsoft-defender-atp/enable-network-protection and PUA protection https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...ender-antivirus for added security (might lead to some false positives in rare cases, though).
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Oct 28, 2019 14:27
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fishmech posted:It is a very good question why you'd try to defend McAfee or Kaspersky or Norton in this day and age, yes.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:38
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They're about to finish and release 19H2, and now there's WindowsCentral claiming that 20H1 is right on its tail (because it's synced to the Azure dev cycle, because kernel) for end of December this year. That's sure fun.
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Oct 28, 2019 16:01
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Combat Pretzel posted:I don't know, Virustotal.com pretends there's more than these three. A lot more. And all of them are useless in this space year 2019.
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Oct 28, 2019 16:25
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Wonder if they're still going to call it 2003 or if this means they're moving off the existing build months. The upcoming release 1909 is more or less a service pack, enabling features already present in 1903. It's going to install the same way a Cumulative Update would, not the usual full installation upgrade.
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Oct 28, 2019 16:56
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For lack of a better place to ask this question, does anyone know if Microsoft intends to get full x64 working on ARM, or are they just leaving it where it is?
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Oct 28, 2019 22:21
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fishmech posted:It's a core component of the operating system, instead of some random third party. What aren't you getting? This isn't saying much, going off their track record. Defender is handy, but anyone remember when it would just ingest any old data without validation? I would not pretend someone else could not write a better virus scanner.
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Oct 29, 2019 06:10
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Should tell you something about the snake oil industry and the nature of these products that they can't.
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Oct 29, 2019 08:51
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Lambert posted:Should tell you something about the snake oil industry and the nature of these products that they can't. I don't have the required experience with other virus scanners at home, but we used Nod32 at work. It was definitely better than Windows defender.
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Oct 29, 2019 09:24
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SwissArmyDruid posted:For lack of a better place to ask this question, does anyone know if Microsoft intends to get full x64 working on ARM, or are they just leaving it where it is? Probably not. At least not in the way they do x86. They are slowly bringing hyper-v to arm.
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Oct 29, 2019 11:18
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Tenacious J posted:I can’t find an answer by searching and I was hoping one of you could help. You can use Task Scheduler to run Plex as a particular user on startup, you don't need it to actually log in and open the desktop
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Oct 29, 2019 11:24
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Combat Pretzel posted:They're about to finish and release 19H2, and now there's WindowsCentral claiming that 20H1 is right on its tail (because it's synced to the Azure dev cycle, because kernel) for end of December this year. That's sure fun. Edit: oh that got mentioned oops. Anyway I'm excited to get WSL2 sooner. Dylan16807 fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Oct 29, 2019 11:33
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:I don't have the required experience with other virus scanners at home, but we used Nod32 at work. It was definitely better than Windows defender. https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/06/analysis-and-exploitation-of-eset.html quote:Attackers can cause I/O via Web Browsers, Email, IM, file sharing, network storage, USB, or hundreds of other vectors. Whenever a message, file, image or other data is received, it’s likely some untrusted data passes through the disk. Because it’s so easy for attackers to trigger emulation of untrusted code, it’s critically important that the emulator is robust and isolated.
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Oct 29, 2019 15:52
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Dylan16807 posted:Keep in mind that they demoted 19H2 to a more normal, non-reinstall update because of the focus on 20H1. --edit: Actually, now that I wanted to download an ISO to spin up in a VM, it's still on the fast ring only. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Oct 29, 2019 16:06
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:I don't have the required experience with other virus scanners at home, but we used Nod32 at work. It was definitely better than Windows defender. Better how?
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Oct 29, 2019 16:13
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Combat Pretzel posted:I'm hoping the GPU-P stuff would finally be made public. I'd like a permanent GPU accelerated "sandbox" to offload some problematic stuff to keep it from my main system. Also maybe someone will figure out how to hack generic hyper-v vms to use the functionality from Sandbox. mystes fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Oct 29, 2019 16:41
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Glenn Quebec posted:I thought it was common knowledge that third party AV is practically adware now. What is meant by adware? That third party AV harvests data from the user's system and monetizes it so other companies can use targeted ads, that the UI contains embedded ads, or just that they accomplish nothing except offering some adware extensions? Knowing SA probably people will say all of the above but I'm more wondering if any third party AV is known in particular for harvesting user data to give to advertisers. I've heard a lot more about browser extensions doing this than AV.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:01
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Just install any AV and you'll see what I meant. Disingenuous installers, browsers etc.
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mystes posted:I doubt NVIDIA will allow it on consumer cards in the short term, but maybe competition or use of VMs for sandboxing will eventually lead to this.
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