|
Neo_Crimson posted:Is there any reason why they can't make va Bethesda style open-world game in, say, Unreal 4? Isn't that sort of what Outer World is? With just less stuff over all and cheaper combat.
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:11
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 26, 2024 09:53 |
|
|
Bethesda has no incentive to change their engine. Their games sell a fuckton, their old engine is cheaper to use and they know how to use it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:14
|
|
|
Neo_Crimson posted:Is there any reason why they can't make va Bethesda style open-world game in, say, Unreal 4? I'd imagine part of the previously mentioned sunk cost policy isn't just raw new engine development, but experience. A new engine means training everyone on the new engine. Even ignoring that, when an engine is old enough, people learn how to twist it in ways that they might not know how to do in the new engine. Its like knowing the quirks of a car you've had for a long time, except if you had to learn stick shift on the new car.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:17
|
|
|
Eschenique posted:Isn't that sort of what Outer World is? Honestly I think part of why Outer Worlds skews so closely to Fallout games is just as a cheap shot at Bethesda. "Look guys, here's how their games should look  ".Andrast posted:Bethesda has no incentive to change their engine. Their games sell a fuckton, their old engine is cheaper to use and they know how to use it. Except it was never intended for the stuff they're trying to use the engine for and it is now breaking. The bad PR just keeps stacking for Fallout 76, and they're rapidly working on turning their own entire playerbase against them at an amazingly rapid pace. The only other studio to do stupid poo poo like this is EA Studios with the Frostbyte engine, and even then the engine's at least able to survive having extra code stuck on and can actually do multiplayer natively.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:17
|
|
|
Neddy Seagoon posted:Except it was never intended for the stuff they're trying to use the engine for and it is now breaking. The bad PR just keeps stacking for Fallout 76, and they're rapidly working on turning their own entire playerbase against them at an amazingly rapid pace. Starfield will probably end up being business as usual and proceed to sell about a billion copies
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:19
|
|
|
Neddy Seagoon posted:Honestly I think part of why Outer Worlds skews so closely to Fallout games is just as a cheap shot at Bethesda. "Look guys, here's how their games should look Embryo/creation is also literally twice the age as frostbyte
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:21
|
|
|
Neo_Crimson posted:Is there any reason why they can't make va Bethesda style open-world game in, say, Unreal 4? Like Eschenique said, The Outer Worlds is that exactly, and from what I've played/seen it runs very well. I've been playing on the PS4 and sometimes there's a little hangup before the textures load in, and one time I had to reload a save and a nearby monster was floating in the air for a second when it loaded up, but there's no framerate issues or quest-destroying bugs so far. Jim Sterling even made an entire video after his review of the game declaring Bethesda outmoded and permanently topped in their own niche, and says he dreads having to revisit future Bethesda games if they can't deliver something similar or better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBmOj4tUiY
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:23
|
|
|
Kaiser Mazoku posted:Child porn is bad and I don't like it but I didn't see any in HH so I will choose to like that and avoid the child porn that she has drawn. lol
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:36
|
|
|
Brain damaged weebs
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:36
|
|
|
very brain damaged to avoid child porn
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:45
|
|
|
Internet Personality + Review Thread: Child porn is bad and I don’t like it but…
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 16:58
|
|
|
watho posted:Internet Personality + Review Thread: Child porn is bad and I don’t like it but…
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 17:14
|
|
|
For Hallowen, I talk about the brand new Are You Afraid of the Dark mini-series.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 17:29
|
|
|
What is it with angie speaks being so fixated on "cancel culture" 🙄 it's just such a sad/bad/pathetic look, let alone constantly working with a lame like peter coffin.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 17:34
|
|
|
watho posted:Internet Personality + Review Thread: Child porn is bad and I don’t like it but…
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 17:42
|
|
|
The zoophilia and child porn art of her OCs is disgusting and that prior tweet thread someone linked with her apology definitely doesn't address it and can't possibly address it in any satisfactory way, because seriously what the gently caress. It's also pretty uncomfortable how she downplays her fanart of Blaire White with "I didn't know she made bad jokes on twitter!" when that's pretty far down the list of objectionable, awful things Blaire has done and continues to do.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 18:03
|
|
|
A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Brain damaged weebs don't doxx me, thx
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 18:08
|
|
|
Blaire seems to be even worse lately. She got a lot of attention for the whole Jessica Yaniv thing and it's all good to call out someone like that who's such an obvious disgusting predator but since then? Bloody hell. From bashing trans kids to spouting off on trans athletes to even more poo poo about non-binaries and everything else, it's like she's on a "I'M THE GOOD ONE" sprint.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 18:39
|
|
|
Punkin Spunkin posted:What is it with angie speaks being so fixated on "cancel culture" 🙄 it's just such a sad/bad/pathetic look, let alone constantly working with a lame like peter coffin. well we're not very far from brainwormed leftists getting mad at Peter coffin and deciding the best way to punish them was to dox Angie, get her banned from PayPal, and more or less try to drive her off the internet. all for the sin of... working with a colleague. like, that was just this summer.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 19:08
|
|
|
Kaiser Mazoku posted:Child porn is bad and I don't like it but I didn't see any in HH so I will choose to like that and avoid the child porn that she has drawn. That would almost pass as an anime title these days.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 19:14
|
|
|
egg tats posted:well we're not very far from brainwormed leftists getting mad at Peter coffin and deciding the best way to punish them was to dox Angie, get her banned from PayPal, and more or less try to drive her off the internet. If someone's an actual Nazi or whatever then yeah by all means cancel culture them. If the worst sin that someone is guilty of is drawing naked cartoon foxes for a little extra cash then you should probably lay off the caffeine for the day.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 19:47
|
|
Nuns with Guns posted:Like Eschenique said, The Outer Worlds is that exactly, and from what I've played/seen it runs very well. I've been playing on the PS4 and sometimes there's a little hangup before the textures load in, and one time I had to reload a save and a nearby monster was floating in the air for a second when it loaded up, but there's no framerate issues or quest-destroying bugs so far. Outer Worlds is honestly worse than Fallout 4 and I really don't get how Jim is so happy for a game that is inferior in all ways to prior Obsidian titles.
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 19:47
|
|
|
SunAndSpring posted:Outer Worlds is honestly worse than Fallout 4 and I really don't get how Jim is so happy for a game that is inferior in all ways to prior Obsidian titles. Gaming is an opiate to the masses who haven't quite surrendered to depression-fueled cspam marxism yet?
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 20:07
|
|
|
Outer Worlds is a masterpiece and I will fight anyone over this
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 20:15
|
|
|
SunAndSpring posted:Outer Worlds is honestly worse than Fallout 4 and I really don't get how Jim is so happy for a game that is inferior in all ways to prior Obsidian titles. In what ways?
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 20:16
|
|
|
I’m only a little ways into it so far, but based on what I’ve seen I have to say I’m a little disappointed, especially by the comedy. You know how in the Fallout games you would often run across ruined offices or factories and there would be a few silly terminal entries talking about how bad the company was, or how dangerous the product was (usually due to it being radioactive) or something along those lines? Well that’s basically this game’s sense of humor in its entirety. "LOL this corporation sure is poorly-run" ad nauseum. It’s like they want to tell a very dark cyberpunk story about evil megacorporations and, well, that’s kinda boring and played out at this point but whatever, I could go with that, but instead they have to turn everything into a joke. Like a knockoff Futurama. And it feels a lot more railroady, too. Getting off the first planet forces you to betray one non-hostile faction or another, which is something that I don’t think ever happened in New Vegas. Certainly not right at the very beginning of the game. Everyone complains about FO3 and 4’s linear plots but at least they gave you the freedom to ignore the plot and wander off into the wasteland if you wanted. I dunno… maybe that’s their idea of an extended tutorial and it’ll open up later on. Maybe it’ll even ease up on the dumb attempts at comedy. I hope so, because when it’s not trying for the cheap laughs the writing is good. The combat is also very good, which is to be expected as they brought over a lot of stuff from Fallout.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 20:32
|
|
|
I dunno the balance of humor and darkness has been really on point for me, and yeah you can start visiting other planets a lot more freely once you’re off the first one. Stuff like the side plot of a town having to falsify the report of a dead man so it technically won’t be suicide because suicide counts as destruction of property and they couldn’t afford the fines (this is in the first area not really a spoiler) perfectly hits the balance of funny absurd and really loving bleak
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 20:52
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSv43cB6aME
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 20:53
|
|
Arcsquad12 posted:In what ways? None of the perks in Outer Worlds are particularly exciting or change the way you play in comparison to Fallout: New Vegas's more interesting perks, the companions are basically just there since none of them really tie into anything going on in the main plot after you collect Parvati, the looting is worse since none of the consumables matter much and there's only three generic ammo types you have available to you, the combat skills are made pointless by the fact that they only really affect criticals and never factor into dialogue so you might as well go full Dialog and all the other skills since there's no real point towards raising your ranged or melee skills at all since you can just get massive damage via Tinkering with your weapons, and the story is massively one note and fails to generate any sort of pathos or sympathy because everyone is wacky and stupid and the only real solution to any problem is centrist compromise.
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:00
|
|
|
Arcsquad12 posted:In what ways? Oh buddy, have about 30 pages worth of arguments on this topic in the Outer World thread. Backlash about the game started about 48 hours after release and has just increased since. Personally it's the tone. Outer World refuses to take its own premise seriously and it makes the game fall flat on its face. Execution is just lacking in a lot of ways and I'd absolutely put it up besides Fallout 4 as a largely unremarkable and disappointing game. It's also undeniably been hurt by being released alongside one of the best WRPGs in years.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:06
|
|
|
I will agree that the perks are pretty uninteresting tho which sucks since the flaw system is so cool
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:08
|
|
|
Disco Elysium is the Outer Worlds of rpgs
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:12
|
|
|
The writing in Other worlds is just honestly kind of poor, all of it is very shallow. Almost none of the characters are interesting and everything about the writing feels very  , especially the main quest which is basically nothing.You have a piss-poor selection of dialogue choices and the quest reactivity compared to something like New Vegas is just embarrassing.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:15
|
|
|
after a certain point this thread is just a place to bring arguments from other threads in other subforums and have them again with the same people but now its in this thread
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:19
|
|
|
Alaois posted:after a certain point this thread is just a place to bring arguments from other threads in other subforums and have them again with the same people but now its in this thread
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:23
|
|
|
Kyoto Video cover sinfamous classic Genocyber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPpkwz3-Ko It's a good video!
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:30
|
|
|
Alaois posted:after a certain point this thread is just a place to bring arguments from other threads in other subforums and have them again with the same people but now its in this thread
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:34
|
|
|
Genocyber is pure 80's carnage and it's great.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:35
|
|
|
Where's this child porn stuff coming from for the Hazbin Hotel lady, when I looked, I saw people clarifying on it and it seems like it was a 16-17 Y/O character with a 20 Y/O one or something, when she herself was was like 21, which if that's really it I dunno if I'm all in agreement on stringing someone up for drawing porn, weird as it may be of their OCs, when they the artist are also still in the immediate age range of said OCs.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:52
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 26, 2024 09:53 |
|
|
EDIT: Fair enough
Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Oct 31, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2019 21:57
|
|
