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Klyith: Aug 3, 2007; GBS Pledge Week

For a productive post that's actually about firefox and isn't me bitching, I combined the normal firefox icon with the developer edition planet:

I don't like how the new icon has the planet colored all violet-red... I know global warming is getting bad but I don't want to think about it every time I open the browser. Now the fox is just giving the world a hug rather than immolating it in a fiery embrace, much better.

This looks good on a big icon, but at small size on the taskbar the planet ball is too dark. Need to try again and lighten the planet-ball a bit.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 03:57

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 03:42

jokes: Dec 20, 2012; Uh... Kupo?

I just want a pop up for the bookmarks menu but all the extensions look like they're from the Netscape era or seem like privacy killers.

The native bookmarks sidebar is perfectly fine except that I need to manually close it if I don't want to gently caress up the window sizing of any given webpage.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 05:42

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Turn on the menu bar.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 05:44

Avenging Dentist: Oct 1, 2005; oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

jokes posted:

I just want a pop up for the bookmarks menu but all the extensions look like they're from the Netscape era or seem like privacy killers.

The native bookmarks sidebar is perfectly fine except that I need to manually close it if I don't want to gently caress up the window sizing of any given webpage.

This sounds exactly like the bookmarks button you can drag onto your toolbar. (Hamburger -> Customize -> find the little star sitting in a tray.) Is there something about that which doesn't work the way you want it?

# ? Nov 5, 2019 06:04

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

On Desktop, when you active "Reader View", you can set the background / font color choice (light/dark theme)... Is there a way to do this on Mobile, or am I stuck with just the eye-searing light theme?

# ? Nov 5, 2019 13:58

Toast Museum: Dec 3, 2005; 30% Iron Chef

Sab669 posted:

On Desktop, when you active "Reader View", you can set the background / font color choice (light/dark theme)... Is there a way to do this on Mobile, or am I stuck with just the eye-searing light theme?

# ? Nov 5, 2019 14:19

isndl: May 2, 2012; I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Sab669 posted:

On Desktop, when you active "Reader View", you can set the background / font color choice (light/dark theme)... Is there a way to do this on Mobile, or am I stuck with just the eye-searing light theme?

Firefox Mobile feels a lot like an afterthought lately, with some feature segmentation based on platform as well (there's dark mode for iOS but not Android for some reason). Supposedly things are halted while they work on a big rewrite/overhaul but that's been a year or more in the making I think.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 14:24

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

...I don't know why but I never considered checking if about:config is a thing on Mobile. I was just digging through the actual Settings menu and couldn't find it :downs:

Thanks!

# ? Nov 5, 2019 14:27

Lambert: Apr 15, 2018; by Fluffdaddy; Fallen Rib

isndl posted:

Firefox Mobile feels a lot like an afterthought lately, with some feature segmentation based on platform as well (there's dark mode for iOS but not Android for some reason). Supposedly things are halted while they work on a big rewrite/overhaul but that's been a year or more in the making I think.

They're working on Fenix, the replacement for current Firefox for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fenix

# ? Nov 5, 2019 14:49

jokes: Dec 20, 2012; Uh... Kupo?

Avenging Dentist posted:

This sounds exactly like the bookmarks button you can drag onto your toolbar. (Hamburger -> Customize -> find the little star sitting in a tray.) Is there something about that which doesn't work the way you want it?

Wow, this was perfect. Thanks so much man, I don't know how I never found this but it's perfect for my behavior.

Now if only there was a way to delete the "other bookmarks" folder...

# ? Nov 5, 2019 16:14

SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

I have no idea what Mozilla has done but since 70.0.1, FF manages to eat 12 GB of RAM to display about:blank.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 19:12

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

Not gonna lie, that's pretty impressive.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 19:17

SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

The bet thing is that the internal task manager gives me relatively normal numbers for extensions and pages, there's just a huge chunk of memory that's just eaten, elsewhere.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 19:24

doctorfrog: Mar 14, 2007; Great.

Does about:memory give any clues?

# ? Nov 5, 2019 19:43

SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

It tells me perfectly sensible numbers, also about 12 GB short of the actual memory footprint. More than that, the growing to that point takes time, so restarting FF somewhat often will stop the growth, how often is somewhat often isn't too clear yet. I hope once a day is enough.

Probably just some ugly memory leak somewhere, I'm sure glad they switched to a faster release cycle.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 19:48

doctorfrog: Mar 14, 2007; Great.

Weird. Welp, there's safe mode and the Minimize memory usage button. Good luck with that 12 GB goiter, I hope it resolves itself.

# ? Nov 5, 2019 19:51

SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

It seems to have resolved itself, I'm not sure how, all I did was restart it twice and it's got perfectly normal RAM usage now, even after several hours to gorge itself like I do, shamefully, on cookie dough, at midnight, in front of the fridge.

Well, I'm not complaining, for now.

# ? Nov 6, 2019 01:58

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

SIGSEGV posted:

Probably just some ugly memory leak somewhere, I'm sure glad they switched to a faster release cycle.

If you stop moving buttons around the bus will blow up and/or the ship will sink!

# ? Nov 6, 2019 03:16

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

SIGSEGV posted:

about Firefox using a lot of memory

I have Firefox 69.0.2 (and will probably upgrade both the base system and all my packages later today), but I noticed just when I got up that top was claiming pretty unreasonable memory loads for a bunch of Firefox processes:

code:

last pid: 67321;  load averages:  1.51,  1.01,  0.49                                           up 14+15:21:07  08:04:33
356 threads:   1 running, 354 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU: 21.3% user,  0.0% nice,  8.8% system,  0.2% interrupt, 69.8% idle
Mem: 878M Active, 2735M Inact, 190M Laundry, 11G Wired, 221M Buf, 957M Free
ARC: 7621M Total, 4292M MFU, 2576M MRU, 32K Anon, 84M Header, 669M Other
     6109M Compressed, 11G Uncompressed, 1.86:1 Ratio
Swap: 18G Total, 18G Free

  PID   JID    UID      PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
60664     0   1001       20    0    21G   407M select   1   9:15   0.24% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
60664     0   1001       20    0    21G   407M uwait    2   0:20   0.04% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
60664     0   1001       20    0    21G   407M uwait    0   0:05   0.01% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
60664     0   1001       20    0    21G   407M kqread   1   0:45   0.01% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M select   0  52:49   1.92% firefox{firefox}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M kqread   3  14:00   1.26% firefox{Gecko_IOThread}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M select   3   9:48   0.66% firefox{GLXVsyncThread}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M uwait    2   3:18   0.39% firefox{VsyncIOThread}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M uwait    2   4:43   0.34% firefox{IPDL Background}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M select   2   0:08   0.03% firefox{DOM Worker}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M uwait    3   0:35   0.01% firefox{Timer}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M uwait    3   0:02   0.00% firefox{JS Watchdog}
57888     0   1001       22    0  2808M   514M select   1  48:07   3.86% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
57888     0   1001       20    0  2808M   514M kqread   3  11:26   1.93% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
24615     0   1001       21    0  2781M   504M select   3   4:23   2.92% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
24615     0   1001       20    0  2781M   504M kqread   3   0:19   1.44% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
24615     0   1001       20    0  2781M   504M uwait    1   0:02   0.00% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
63018     0   1001       23    0  2700M   461M CPU3     3   0:18   6.90% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
63018     0   1001       21    0  2700M   461M kqread   0   0:02   2.67% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
63018     0   1001       20    0  2700M   461M uwait    0   0:00   0.01% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
63018     0   1001       20    0  2700M   461M uwait    2   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
65768     0   1001       33    0   553M   326M uwait    3  94:36  21.72% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       31    0   553M   326M uwait    2 127:30  17.82% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       23    0   553M   326M uwait    2   9:47   5.91% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       23    0   553M   326M uwait    0   9:39   5.88% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       23    0   553M   326M uwait    3   9:42   5.83% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       23    0   553M   326M uwait    1   9:39   5.68% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       21    0   553M   326M kqread   0  13:32   3.70% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       21    0   553M   326M uwait    3  12:31   2.87% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       20    0   553M   326M uwait    0   5:02   0.28% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       20    0   553M   326M uwait    2   0:46   0.17% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       20    0   553M   326M select   3   3:03   0.04% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       20    0   553M   326M uwait    1   0:03   0.01% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p

However, things are not as dire as they may seem, because it's the RES column that indicates how much of the memory is part of the resident set, ie. what's actually in use in the VM itself.
Also, despite the fact that there's a lot of processes, all the ones that have the same number are sharing the resident set, so they aren't taking up any more memory.

I guess my point with this is to ask whether you're sure you were looking at the resident set or not?

# ? Nov 6, 2019 08:11

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Me: please, firefox, just reload the files from the server, I'm pressing shift while clicking on reload. I just made changes to these javascript files and would like to see them.

Firefox: copy that. Reloading some of the files from the server.

(after i checked the separate "Disable cache" checkbox from the developer tools, firefox actually reloaded the second js file i had edited, not just one of the changed files)

# ? Nov 12, 2019 12:44

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

Wheany posted:

Me: please, firefox, just reload the files from the server, I'm pressing shift while clicking on reload. I just made changes to these javascript files and would like to see them.

Firefox: copy that. Reloading some of the files from the server.

(after i checked the separate "Disable cache" checkbox from the developer tools, firefox actually reloaded the second js file i had edited, not just one of the changed files)

I have never had Ctrl+R not reload all cached junk, be it on my own local applications or "actual" websites :shrug:

# ? Nov 12, 2019 14:03

duz: Jul 11, 2005; Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost

Yeah, I use ctrl not shift.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 16:47

SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

D. Ebdrup posted:

code:

last pid: 67321;  load averages:  1.51,  1.01,  0.49                                           up 14+15:21:07  08:04:33
356 threads:   1 running, 354 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU: 21.3% user,  0.0% nice,  8.8% system,  0.2% interrupt, 69.8% idle
Mem: 878M Active, 2735M Inact, 190M Laundry, 11G Wired, 221M Buf, 957M Free
ARC: 7621M Total, 4292M MFU, 2576M MRU, 32K Anon, 84M Header, 669M Other
     6109M Compressed, 11G Uncompressed, 1.86:1 Ratio
Swap: 18G Total, 18G Free

  PID   JID    UID      PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
60664     0   1001       20    0    21G   407M select   1   9:15   0.24% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
60664     0   1001       20    0    21G   407M uwait    2   0:20   0.04% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
60664     0   1001       20    0    21G   407M uwait    0   0:05   0.01% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
60664     0   1001       20    0    21G   407M kqread   1   0:45   0.01% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M select   0  52:49   1.92% firefox{firefox}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M kqread   3  14:00   1.26% firefox{Gecko_IOThread}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M select   3   9:48   0.66% firefox{GLXVsyncThread}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M uwait    2   3:18   0.39% firefox{VsyncIOThread}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M uwait    2   4:43   0.34% firefox{IPDL Background}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M select   2   0:08   0.03% firefox{DOM Worker}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M uwait    3   0:35   0.01% firefox{Timer}
74590     0   1001       20    0  2936M   630M uwait    3   0:02   0.00% firefox{JS Watchdog}
57888     0   1001       22    0  2808M   514M select   1  48:07   3.86% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
57888     0   1001       20    0  2808M   514M kqread   3  11:26   1.93% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
24615     0   1001       21    0  2781M   504M select   3   4:23   2.92% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
24615     0   1001       20    0  2781M   504M kqread   3   0:19   1.44% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
24615     0   1001       20    0  2781M   504M uwait    1   0:02   0.00% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
63018     0   1001       23    0  2700M   461M CPU3     3   0:18   6.90% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
63018     0   1001       21    0  2700M   461M kqread   0   0:02   2.67% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
63018     0   1001       20    0  2700M   461M uwait    0   0:00   0.01% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
63018     0   1001       20    0  2700M   461M uwait    2   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -c
65768     0   1001       33    0   553M   326M uwait    3  94:36  21.72% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       31    0   553M   326M uwait    2 127:30  17.82% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       23    0   553M   326M uwait    2   9:47   5.91% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       23    0   553M   326M uwait    0   9:39   5.88% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       23    0   553M   326M uwait    3   9:42   5.83% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       23    0   553M   326M uwait    1   9:39   5.68% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       21    0   553M   326M kqread   0  13:32   3.70% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       21    0   553M   326M uwait    3  12:31   2.87% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       20    0   553M   326M uwait    0   5:02   0.28% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       20    0   553M   326M uwait    2   0:46   0.17% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       20    0   553M   326M select   3   3:03   0.04% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p
65768     0   1001       20    0   553M   326M uwait    1   0:03   0.01% /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -p

It was definitely real memory use enough that the OS wouldn't claw it back in my case. It kinda sucked but FF has stopped doing it without giving me a single hint as to what was going on and without changing anything.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 16:54

wooger: Apr 16, 2005; YOU RESENT?

Sab669 posted:

I have never had Ctrl+R not reload all cached junk, be it on my own local applications or "actual" websites

You want Ctrl-Shift-R for a hard refresh though.

Even that is not as thorough as clearing cache fully though.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:03

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

SIGSEGV posted:

It was definitely real memory use enough that the OS wouldn't claw it back in my case. It kinda sucked but FF has stopped doing it without giving me a single hint as to what was going on and without changing anything.

I'm fairly certain it was fixed by this pull request for jemalloc since that's a fix for a critical virtual memory leak on Windows platforms according to the changelog.
Obviously it hasn't hit FreeBSD directly, but Jason Evans (the creator, and a FreeBSD commiter) found that jemalloc 5.2.1 breaks compilations on non-llvm hardware platforms in the FreeBSD tree.

All that being said, the Javascript Baseline Interpreter makes a noticable difference on javascript-heavy websites, so it's definitely a good update!

# ? Nov 12, 2019 22:03

Storm One: Jan 12, 2011

Firefox password manager refuses to show the prompt to remember the credentials to my router's login page, is there a way to forcibly add username + password information for a particular URL?

# ? Nov 13, 2019 23:08

Avenging Dentist: Oct 1, 2005; oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

about:logins -> Create New Login

# ? Nov 13, 2019 23:17

Storm One: Jan 12, 2011

Is that a Nightly only thing?

In 68 ESR and TB typing about:logins in the address bar does nothing and opening about:about then clicking about:logins results in a blank page that never loads anything.

# ? Nov 13, 2019 23:37

Avenging Dentist: Oct 1, 2005; oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

It's on the latest release of Firefox. I have no idea what it would be on ESR.

# ? Nov 13, 2019 23:47

Storm One: Jan 12, 2011

Anyway, adding the credentials using about:logins in Nightly after transplanting the password manager files from the ESR profile folder then back again worked so thanks for the pointer.

# ? Nov 14, 2019 02:57

SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

D. Ebdrup posted:

I'm fairly certain it was fixed by this pull request for jemalloc since that's a fix for a critical virtual memory leak on Windows platforms according to the changelog.
Obviously it hasn't hit FreeBSD directly, but Jason Evans (the creator, and a FreeBSD commiter) found that jemalloc 5.2.1 breaks compilations on non-llvm hardware platforms in the FreeBSD tree.

All that being said, the Javascript Baseline Interpreter makes a noticable difference on javascript-heavy websites, so it's definitely a good update!

No, when I say I didn't change anything, I mean I didn't change anything, and FF didn't update, I restarted it, it started bloating fast, so I restarted it, same tabs and all, and then it didn't bloat and remained perfectly kind and civilized. I'm mystified. I didn't even do that profile thing you have to do when having a zoom level starts making FF blow chunks, I just closed and restarted.

# ? Nov 14, 2019 03:25

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

Avenging Dentist posted:

about :logins -> Create New Login

Oooh, that's handy. Thanks.

# ? Nov 14, 2019 05:06

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Oh crikey, Picture-in-picture mode is so good! Firefox 71 Beta.

# ? Nov 15, 2019 15:43

Nalin: Sep 29, 2007; Hair Elf

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Oh crikey, Picture-in-picture mode is so good! Firefox 71 Beta.

I use it constantly. Almost every time I watch a YouTube video, I have it off in the corner. I only wish it had time controls on it.

# ? Nov 16, 2019 09:46

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Have there been any changes made recently to Firefox Preview on Android that would make ad blocking less effective? At the moment it doesn't look like it's blocking anything and some websites are barely usable due to ads loading in all over the place.

# ? Nov 25, 2019 09:25

Lambert: Apr 15, 2018; by Fluffdaddy; Fallen Rib

Firefox Preview only blocks trackers, not ads specifically. And extension support isn't in yet.

# ? Nov 25, 2019 09:32

slidebite: Nov 6, 2005; Good egg

Is there an extension for Firefox which checks your email? IE: I have a domain and use the included webmail, but I'd like something on my address bar/wherever that alerts when I have an email.

# ? Dec 1, 2019 17:38

BlankSystemDaemon: Mar 13, 2009

Firefox is already more than twice the size of FreeBSD in terms of lines of code, why would you want to add a mail client to it?!

# ? Dec 1, 2019 18:01

Fangs404: Dec 20, 2004; I time bomb.

slidebite posted:

Is there an extension for Firefox which checks your email? IE: I have a domain and use the included webmail, but I'd like something on my address bar/wherever that alerts when I have an email.

Just pin a tab for your webmail, and if it enables notifications (like Gmail), then enable notifications.

# ? Dec 1, 2019 19:21

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 03:42

wooger: Apr 16, 2005; YOU RESENT?

Fangs404 posted:

Just pin a tab for your webmail, and if it enables notifications (like Gmail), then enable notifications.

Or get an email client.

# ? Dec 1, 2019 21:53

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