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The 1st half of the new season could just backtrack and have a "Master, please remind me again how you met Luvia" poo poo
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Lt. Lizard posted:Uh, I think it depends. The Tsukihime was the first Type Moon Visual Novel, when they were just tiny fan-studio and it shows. Compared to F/SN it's rougher around the edges in almost every aspect. It's art oscillates between bad and mediocre, it has a lot of even more random dead ends, parts of it are even slower and more plodding than the slow, plodding parts of Heavens Feel route, it adheres to a lot of anime cliches that later works subvert or outright ignore and instead of handful of mercifully short H-scenes of F/SN (or none, if you have enhanced edition), there's shitload of them, some of them pretty long, some of them seriously creepy in a bad way and all of them with even worse writing than F/SN ones. If you can stomach all of that, Tsukihime has some pretty great story and world, with bunch of memorable characters and overall it's significantly more horror-like, but that's pretty big if. Tsukihime is very raw compared to later works Nasu wrote. Half of the routes were written in a fever dream and Kohaku only exists because Takeuchi decided that having twin maids was the best idea ever. There's a lot of visceral honesty to it as he turns up the horror and Tsukihime does go some unique places. Shiki's personality wildly escalates between bland VN protagonist, serial killer, and a snarky dude. There's an entire route in which 90% of it's narrative is the protagonist being bedridden and going completely insane. The split between "Near Side" and "Far Side" is wild and creates divergences that make no sense as a result of the player's choices and the main antagonist of the game becomes increasingly irrelevant as you dive deeper in the game. I think Kohaku's route was written over a weekend and a dozen pots of coffee but it's a fascinating climax to the entire story.
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Bakanogami posted:Books 6-7 are all about Gray's hometown, going into her background as she and Waver revisit it. Zepia guest stars. What's this now.
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Oct 12, 2019 05:12
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I can understand the reason the theoretical Tsukihime remake has taken this long to partly be that it needs a complete rewrite - the result of merely cleaning up the text/structure a bit and upping the production values would likely still feel quite embarrassing to Nasu after all this years, as well as something of a disservice to their fans and to themselves to limit it to just that if they're already undertaking the project. The final product might keep the characters and themes and perhaps some of the iconic story beats, but I suspect it'll otherwise be a drastically different retelling.
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I doubt writing is the issue. Nasu is an extremely fast writer when he needs to. https://oneofepisodes.wordpress.com/2017/03/22/translation-4gamer-interview-with-kinoko-nasu-and-yosuke-shiokawa-on-fgo-march-2017-part-1/ quote:Nasu: [...] then when I asked, “So when’s the deadline?” they said, “Tomorrow.” (awkward laugh) From what I've heard of Mahoyo's development, a lot of the time was in what came after the writing, particularly the programming. (Remember the VNs are done in-house.) I wouldn't be surprised if TsukiRe has been stuck in a similar situation.
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Oct 12, 2019 06:06
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The remake would be done except nasu got writer's block for sacchans route And by sacchan I mean taiga's
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Oct 12, 2019 06:55
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The worst part of Tsukihime for me is that Akiha and Hisui got hosed when it came to endings, both of them were horribly depressing. So if the remake ever comes out them getting happy endings is all I care about.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:What's this now.  There's the cover. That's him on the left! I dunno if I should post more concrete spoilers here even with tags since there's still no way to read these arcs in English yet.
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Stairmaster posted:The remake would be done except nasu got writer's block for sacchans route It would be pretty amazing for Sacchin's route to be, inexplicably, without any sort of setup, suddenly hijacked by Taiga. Gonna have wait for a FSN remake for the official Sacchin route when she returns the favor.
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Oct 12, 2019 08:40
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Bakanogami posted:
I guess I have to watch the anime now.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I guess I have to watch the anime now.
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Tribladeofchaos posted:The worst part of Tsukihime for me is that Akiha and Hisui got hosed when it came to endings, both of them were horribly depressing. So if the remake ever comes out them getting happy endings is all I care about. Akiha's ending wasn't that depressing, and it gets expanded upon in KT.
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Oct 12, 2019 09:12
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As long as they keep the meeting of serial killers scene, the best scene in the entire VN.
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Tribladeofchaos posted:The worst part of Tsukihime for me is that Akiha and Hisui got hosed when it came to endings, both of them were horribly depressing. So if the remake ever comes out them getting happy endings is all I care about. Hisui's Good End isn't ideal but it's nevertheless pretty comfy.
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Dr Pepper posted:Tsukihime is very raw compared to later works Nasu wrote. Half of the routes were written in a fever dream and Kohaku only exists because Takeuchi decided that having twin maids was the best idea ever. And he was right considering she is to this very day the best TM heroine.
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Shinjobi posted:It would be pretty amazing for Sacchin's route to be, inexplicably, without any sort of setup, suddenly hijacked by Taiga. Gonna have wait for a FSN remake for the official Sacchin route when she returns the favor. The F/SN remake will only have a caster route as new content
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Oct 12, 2019 19:25
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Stairmaster posted:The F/SN remake will only have a Careful, you had a typo there.
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Oct 12, 2019 19:32
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*wraps garrote around your neck and pulls*
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Stairmaster posted:The F/SN remake will only have a
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Stairmaster posted:The F/SN remake will only have a
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Stairmaster posted:The F/SN remake will only have a
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F/SN remake but with more cooking scenes. The best Tsukihime heroine is Hisui.
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I want to talk about Mash and Ana getting owned by a genki girl in a tiger suit. 
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Grouchio posted:I want to talk about Mash and Ana getting owned by a genki girl in a tiger suit. My wife has a better idea of why I love Taiga now. Little snippets and animations in FGO just don't do her justice.
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So I played and finished Tsukihime. It was definitely rough around the edges but I liked the game overall. Real curious to see how the remake will change things up too, especially if they actually do the Sacchin route and such. Ryukishi07 must have played this, right? It feels like Umineko takes a decent bit of inspiration from it. EDIT: Oh yeah of course he has, that one Higurashi character is based on Ciel. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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Nov 7, 2019 21:46
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He did, the teacher from Higurashi is clearly based on Ciel.
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The teacher in Higurashi is literally just Ciel because of how much he enjoyed Tsukuhime so I'd say probably.
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ryukishi liked tsukihime so much he sent takeuchi bondage porn he drew of the maids
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I still can't believe the Wasteful Lives of High School Girls author literally named her twin girl characters Hisui and Kohaku
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Tsukihime is super influential in general.
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nrook posted:I still can't believe the Wasteful Lives of High School Girls author literally named her twin girl characters Hisui and Kohaku There are also a pair of siblings in the JRPG Tales of Hearts named Hisui and Kohaku. It just means Jade and Amber though, so the names themselves are kind of a natural pairing.
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I'm playing Kagetsu Tohya and Kohaku locked me up in a dungeon forever because I failed her surprise trivia quiz. This game seems way more complicated than Tsukihime.
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Have you ever seen the flowchart to Kogetsu Tohya? It is ridiculously big and complicated to get everything in that game.
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Yeah I just saw that. What in the hell.
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The manga adaptation of Tsukihime is better than the game EXCEPT it's missing the best scene: the midnight meeting of serial killers.
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That scene is really good. I like how it almost reads as a bizarre parody of the “morning tea with Akiha” bits.
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