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Vaders Jester posted:You suggested flying through typhoons, then suggested that the SRU would refuse to move venue if given the option. Neither of which make any sense at all. I mean if there's a typhoon going on and you've got to get to a stadium on another island I don't think you'd want to do it by boat
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Julio Cruz posted:I mean if there's a typhoon going on and you've got to get to a stadium on another island I don't think you'd want to do it by boat If only there was some way to know about the Typhoon before hand?
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Nov 8, 2019 22:13
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Aramoro posted:If only there was some way to know about the Typhoon before hand? yeah there's absolutely no way they were waiting as long as they could before making a decision like changing the venue of the match, none at all because it might be the case that actually it's OK to have the match in the original stadium after all (spoiler: this is what actually happened)
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Nov 8, 2019 22:36
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Julio Cruz posted:I mean if there's a typhoon going on and you've got to get to a stadium on another island I don't think you'd want to do it by boat You mean the typhoon they knew about a week before it made land fall? That one?
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Nov 8, 2019 22:41
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Julio Cruz posted:yeah there's absolutely no way they were waiting as long as they could before making a decision like changing the venue of the match, none at all Jesus christ you're one dense motherfucker aren't you? A good contingency plan has the best chance of letting the matches go ahead. It would have been a better choice to call it early move the match to somewhere that was 100% going to happen and not put it down to a 50/50 shot on Sunday morning that they could do it. Even if it was just flooding they had to contend with by the time they called it good it would have been very hard to move the match even 14 miles. That's not counting the fact that with their contingency planning they did cancel 3 matches. So was the contingency plan good enough? Clearly not.
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Nov 8, 2019 22:46
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yeah I'm 100% sure that the SRU would have accepted "sorry you're going to have to fly to a different stadium 1000 miles away to have your match, tough poo poo about not having any fans there" without any complaint and definitely wouldn't have in any way threatened World Rugby with legal action, because come on who would do that, I mean really
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Nov 8, 2019 22:51
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Julio Cruz posted:yeah I'm 100% sure that the SRU would have accepted "sorry you're going to have to fly to a different stadium 1000 miles away to have your match, tough poo poo about not having any fans there" without any complaint and definitely wouldn't have in any way threatened World Rugby with legal action, because come on who would do that, I mean really They literally said they were happy to move to any other stadium to ensure the match was played. They even offered to play the game behind closed doors if need be.
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Nov 8, 2019 22:53
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Julio Cruz posted:yeah I'm 100% sure that the SRU would have accepted "sorry you're going to have to fly to a different stadium 1000 miles away to have your match, tough poo poo about not having any fans there" without any complaint and definitely wouldn't have in any way threatened World Rugby with legal action, because come on who would do that, I mean really So now if the contingency planning was good enough in your head canon the SRU would have thrown a fit about that. Whats that I see over there? The goalposts?
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Nov 8, 2019 22:56
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Vaders Jester posted:They literally said they were happy to move to any other stadium to ensure the match was played. They even offered to play the game behind closed doors if need be. which is all well and good but Italy didn't get that option so I'm really not sure why the SRU thought they deserved to get it threatening to sue when World Rugby doesn't break its own tournament rules solely to benefit you doesn't seem like a very good idea really
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Nov 8, 2019 23:08
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Julio Cruz posted:which is all well and good but Italy didn't get that option so I'm really not sure why the SRU thought they deserved to get it The fact Italy didn't get the option seems to poo poo all over the idea that the "robust contingencies" that were supposedly in place were fit for purpose then, doesn't it. At least try to keep the goalposts in the the place for once post at least.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:12
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Vaders Jester posted:The fact Italy didn't get the option seems to poo poo all over the idea that the "robust contingencies" that were supposedly in place were fit for purpose then, doesn't it. yeah they should have known there was going to be a once-in-a-century storm before they drew up the rules that said "no rescheduling of pool games"
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Nov 8, 2019 23:14
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Defending SRU throwing a petulant tantrum about the contingencies in a tournament agreement they willingly signed which all turned out to be hypothetical anyway is a weird hill to die on.
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Smorgasbord posted:Defending SRU throwing a petulant tantrum about the contingencies in a tournament agreement they willingly signed which all turned out to be hypothetical anyway is a weird hill to die on. So is defending contingency planning that resulted in 3 matches being cancelled, but here we are. It's entirely possible for the SRU to be dumb fucks and for the contingency plans to be laughably poo poo at the same time. When the Guardian broke the news that the plan was to move matches 14 miles, pretty much every news site savaged WR for being shite. Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Nov 8, 2019 23:18
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Julio Cruz posted:yeah they should have known there was going to be a once-in-a-century storm before they drew up the rules that said "no rescheduling of pool games" And we're back to typhoon season being a thing in Japan so it hardly snuck up on them. And the rules covered no rescheduling to a different day, not venue. Try not to cherry-pick.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:26
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Vaders Jester posted:So is defending contingency planning that resulted in 3 matches being cancelled, but here we are. what has that got to do with the SRU though? you know the group who threatened legal action when World Rugby wouldn't break their own tournament rules for them and you accuse me of moving goalposts
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Nov 8, 2019 23:26
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Vaders Jester posted:And we're back to typhoon season being a thing in Japan so it hardly snuck up on them. and we're also back to Hagibis being just a little bit bigger than the usual typhoon turns out that contingency planning for the biggest typhoon in half a century is actually quite difficult
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Nov 8, 2019 23:28
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Julio Cruz posted:and we're also back to Hagibis being just a little bit bigger than the usual typhoon A typhoon is by definition 100s of km wide. It didn't have to be the biggest in 50 years for it to cover more than 14 miles. I've explained this to you already, try to keep up. Julio Cruz posted:what has that got to do with the SRU though? you know the group who threatened legal action when World Rugby wouldn't break their own tournament rules for them Because the SRU criticised the "robust contingency plans" they and every other team were assured were in place to make sure matches could be played when they signed up to those rules.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:32
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Vaders Jester posted:A typhoon is by definition 100s of km wide. It didn't have to be the biggest in 50 years for it to cover more than 14 miles. I've explained this to you already, try to It’s not about how wide the storm is, it’s about damage and impact to infrastructure, and THAT can indeed be extremely localized in such a way as moving “only” 14 miles seems reasonable. As well, I’m pretty sure that was their last-ditch “we aren’t moving to a whole other region” plan. With typhoons you can get a forecast some time ahead, yes, but it only gains some accuracy two-three days before in my experience. Even then, with Hagibis/Typhoon 19, it wound up drifting further east than expected one or two days earlier. It wasn’t the winds so much as the volume of rain, and that hit places I didn’t think would be as damaged - hello, Kamaishi. It’s a tough call to make given that it’s a moving force of nature. Yes, it’s (the end of) typhoon season, but a typhoon landing usually means it’s wet and windy for a brief time, but the next day is fine. So what do you do? Move teams at the first sight, knowing if you do so four days early there’s a chance it’s nothing? Or wait until 24 hours before, when all the other transit involved and infrastructure would need to hold a match needs to get spun up double-quick? Or do you roll the dice, say you’ll cancel pool games, and not expect the 0.5% chance it’s an enormous storm like this?
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Vaders Jester posted:The fact Italy didn't get the option seems to poo poo all over the idea that the "robust contingencies" that were supposedly in place were fit for purpose then, doesn't it. The problem with Hagibis was the sheer size of it. It covered much more space than normal, and the speed of it. It developed very quickly, and changed course massively. Midweek they was still talking about Kyushu not Tokyo. By the time people knew enough to make definite decisions, they were the evacuate millions of people decisions. Not where to play a game. They just had no idea until Sunday morning and people could start checking what would still be usable.
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KennyTheFish posted:Midweek they was still talking about Kyushu not Tokyo. By the time people knew enough to make definite decisions, they were the evacuate millions of people decisions. Not where to play a game. Yeah, by the time they knew it was big and coming towards Tokyo, there was already plans to shut down both airports for domestic flights. Eddie Jones and England got out with the quickness.
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HappyCamperGL posted:lotta new posts in the rugby thread. assume that means edinburgh v dragons was a classic. If you're a fan of George Clancy it was one for the ages.
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Lol at the TV director going to a replay and missing George Horne scoring a try from the quick tap.
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I've not seen much pro12 this season but how poo poo are ospreys? Cause they're looking to southern kings at home. And the kings are really , really poo poo.
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HappyCamperGL posted:I've not seen much Pro14 this season but how poo poo are Ospreys? Cause they're losing to Southern Kings at home. And the Kings are really, really poo poo. They are not doing well but they seem to be a special grade of awful in this match.
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Nov 9, 2019 17:31
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Typical. Zebre have a man sent off and now they actually start playing rugby.
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If the Ospreys had a decent ten they could have won that but all the have is Luke Price and James Hook they really need to sign McKenzie.
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Vaders Jester posted:No chance of getting Sam Davies back? My Dragons have him now. Plus they have Anscombe when he's back fit.
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Anyone got advice as to where to watch the pro14 games in the UK, preferably online? It looks like my only option is to pay for a sports channel packages which is double expensive for me as I don't even have a TV subscription.
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Kitchner posted:Anyone got advice as to where to watch the pro14 games in the UK, preferably online? It looks like my only option is to pay for a sports channel packages which is double expensive for me as I don't even have a TV subscription. If you have a VPN you can grab an ESPN+ subscription for $5 a month or $50 a year. It is also in a bundle with Disney+ if you've got kids/are into Disney. I don't know if it's an option in the UK without a VPN.
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drunk leprechaun posted:If you have a VPN you can grab an ESPN+ subscription for $5 a month or $50 a year. It is also in a bundle with Disney+ if you've got kids/are into Disney. I don't know if it's an option in the UK without a VPN. Luckily I do have a VPN so I may look at that as an option. No kids though so the Disney bit won't help.
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Kitchner posted:Luckily I do have a VPN so I may look at that as an option. No kids though so the Disney bit won't help. Yeah def take a look at stand-alone ESPN+. They have Pro14, Super Rugby, and MLR(US league) for rugby and an absurd amount of other sports. I've never had any issues with the quality of the streams. And the price was right, at least for the US.
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Kitchner posted:Luckily I do have a VPN so I may look at that as an option. No kids though so the Disney bit won't help. If you happen to be into Marvel or Star Wars, Disney+ will have a load of stuff on it.
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Scarlets and Wales can't catch a break it seems. Both Patchell and Jonathan Davies out for months with injuries.
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Yeah Davies is a real kick in the teeth. And with Patchell out I dunno who Pivac will pick for the Baa Baas game. Will have to be Sam Davies or Jarrod Evans.
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The SRU have paid their fine and expressed "regret". Let's hope that's the last dumb rugby decision that Scotland makes until the Six Nations
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Just remembered this happening during the world cup match between Wales and Uruguay.
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Just in case you don't know if you register on https://epcrugby.com then you can watch all the Euro challenge cup games. No commentary but that's no deal breaker.
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