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I can't imagine a real person putting half of the materials needed for a road into a builder and then just leaving it there. A lot of this stuff is probably highly influenced by the game to control player progress.
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I'm at the part where I have to make Mama's sister happy. There's a bunch of undelivered poo poo scattered around the base. Am I really gonna have to go around delivering this to get her approval? More importantly, do I actually have to slowly move through the BT infested Timefall Snowing mountain to get to the one guy for some of this? Surely this can't be what I have to do now
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Nov 11, 2019 21:45
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Spite posted:it seems like you have to build the roads yourself for the most part. i've had people complete my roads but I always have to start them (and I always end up putting the majority of resources in them). I had the exact opposite happen to me. Found an auto-paver that was 3/4ths full, shoved some resources in and finished it up. The VERY first auto-paver I ever found was empty, though. The one right outside of the Lake. I started it and got it like 60% of the way there + finished it after a delivery and so far it has generated roughly fifty thousands likes for me.
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Nov 11, 2019 21:47
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my understanding of this game based on twitch and reading about it is: Death Stranding has you roleplay a social-media driven Amazon delivery guy (with guns) in a post-apocalyptic world, through a series of elaborate fetch quests. At the end of the game kojima shames you for putting this much work into helping people in a game but not in real life. mostly accurate?
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Nov 11, 2019 21:47
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Macaluso posted:I'm at the part where I have to make Mama's sister happy. There's a bunch of undelivered poo poo scattered around the base. Am I really gonna have to go around delivering this to get her approval? More importantly, do I actually have to slowly move through the BT infested Timefall Snowing mountain to get to the one guy for some of this? Surely this can't be what I have to do now No, but what you have to do is worse! Go back to Mama.
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I had two chunks of road get built for me entirely without any contributions from me. The fact that I'm seeing odd numbers of materials already delivered to the pavers (which shouldn't be possible when you have to hand in containers with even multiples of 40 materials or whatever) makes me think that some small percentage of the materials that other players hand in also gets shared with your instance of the world.
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Nov 11, 2019 21:50
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American McGay posted:I can't imagine a real person putting half of the materials needed for a road into a builder and then just leaving it there. A lot of this stuff is probably highly influenced by the game to control player progress. Some of the later roads require so much materials that you would never be able to fill it up all the way in one truck run. So yes you do have to fill it up partly and come back. Edit: for real though the most useful thing for your metals and ceramic is dumping them into roads whenever possible. If you need to fabricate stuff with them usually a delivery will give you enough of that material to fabricate all the equipment you'd need for hours.
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Nov 11, 2019 21:51
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For now roads are the best way to send your rating through the roof. Ever since I started building them my grade has skyrocketed. Even just having contributed to a partially completed road nets me so many likes on a regular basis.
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Nov 11, 2019 21:55
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I got lucky since most the roads I've been on are established and I've only had to add a bit to upgrade them. I think liking stuff more marks you as active and the more active you are, the more you'll be in worlds with other active players.
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Nov 11, 2019 22:13
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There is also some weird stuff you'll see sometimes like a random zip line by itself. So I think the game only pulls in a few things at a time.
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Nov 11, 2019 22:16
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Why am I being asked to deliver a nuke by a sketchy dude Edit: Why is it glowing
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Nov 11, 2019 22:32
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Spite posted:it seems like you have to build the roads yourself for the most part. i've had people complete my roads but I always have to start them (and I always end up putting the majority of resources in them). I had like three sections of roads built by other players even before I did the build a road tutorial delivery.
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Nov 11, 2019 22:32
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Steve Yun posted:Why am I being asked to deliver a nuke by a sketchy dude
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Steve Yun posted:Why am I being asked to deliver a nuke by a sketchy dude
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Nov 11, 2019 22:33
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SardonicTyrant posted:Don't be a MULE, this guy seems legit. You’re right I should stop being a troublemaker and just do my job
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Nov 11, 2019 22:36
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Steve Yun posted:Man, I feel like I’m the only person on my server bothering to build roads. they rig it so you still have to provide most of the materials yourself i think, maybe related to the "bandwidth" mechanic they mention? there's 3 segments left to connect north/south on my map and it's been like that all day, it would take a single truck trip to finish the full thing
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Nov 11, 2019 22:38
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Maya Fey posted:they rig it so you still have to provide most of the materials yourself i think, maybe related to the "bandwidth" mechanic they mention? there's 3 segments left to connect north/south on my map and it's been like that all day, it would take a single truck trip to finish the full thing They don't. I've had entire sections built by other players, I've had 50%+ of materials donated on stuff that I started. There's going to be variance, some of you are gonna get placed on servers that don't have builders and some of you are gonna get placed on servers that have absolute nerdshoes that just hang around and build poo poo. It only takes one or two of those maniacs to completely turn it around. There's a guy on my server with level 300-something who builds all the best poo poo in all the right places, dude is a gem.
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Nov 11, 2019 22:41
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Yeah once I made it to the western regions the road construction dried up. Maybe I'm outpacing the average community at the moment. Also I made this elaborate zipline network around the first area. Wind Farm now takes 20 seconds to traverse 
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Nov 11, 2019 22:42
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Steve Yun posted:Why am I being asked to deliver a nuke by a sketchy dude i didn't really get that whole thing. how does sam know what's in the package?? and if he does why does he just let the guy run away?
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Nov 11, 2019 22:43
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Remote stun grenades are amazing! You can airburst them midair if you time them right, and with the bigger blast radius compared to regular stun grenades , you can take out whole groups of MULES.
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Nov 11, 2019 22:44
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The social features in this game remind me of the nier automata ending, except in that game it was completely faked for effect and here it's probably just heavily doctored to manage the experience. Not that there's anything wrong with that really, it's clearly effective
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Nov 11, 2019 22:45
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No Mods No Masters posted:The social features in this game remind me of the nier automata ending, except in that game it was completely faked for effect Whoa what Edit: I’m willing to believe my online experience in this game is being heavily “managed” but this is the first I’ve heard this about Nier
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Nov 11, 2019 22:48
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No Mods No Masters posted:The social features in this game remind me of the nier automata ending, except in that game it was completely faked for effect and here it's probably just heavily doctored to manage the experience. Not that there's anything wrong with that really, it's clearly effective You can actually look at all the people on your server and there's a handful of folks on mine who have just completely outstripped everyone else and have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of likes. And I opened up their PSN profiles and they are real players, really playing Death Stranding and have different gaming histories. Try it yourself. It's real.
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Nov 11, 2019 22:52
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Steve Yun posted:Whoa what It's been a while so take with a grain of salt. I mean insofar as IIRC yoko taro came out and admitted that there is no tracked system of other player's saves which get "burned" to protect you during the credits as the game implies, it just pulls names randomly and indefinitely from the list of other people who agreed to the bargain
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Nov 11, 2019 22:53
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Kudos to Kojima for making game where we suspect all the other real people as being various kind of bots and shills.
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I don’t think he’s saying they’re fake, I get the suspicion that the game is managing how much of their giveaway stuff we’re actually receiving. Like, maybe everyone is forced to feed resources into the highway and then the game treats it like a public work that everyone pitched in for. Like real highways and taxes!
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There is definitely a degree of online manipulation. For example you will never see structures that you haven't unlocked in the story. Edit: the great thing about the pc release is that we might get some (via data mining) about the mechanics. I dunno about you but I'm interested to see how Kojima is handling the online structure stuff. Ineffiable fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Nov 11, 2019 |
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Just walked into chapter 4 and ... oh ... thats why they want you to take the assault rifle. My UPS driver just got called up to deploy with his Red Horse unit it seems
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Nov 11, 2019 22:58
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Hey is my glowing cargo the end of chapter 3? Cause I wanna dick around more before going to chapter 4.
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Ineffiable posted:There is definitely a degree of online manipulation. Uhhhhhh Ive definitely seen a lot of private shelters around before unlocking the ability to make those at the Weather Station
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Steve Yun posted:Hey is my glowing cargo the end of chapter 3? Cause I wanna dick around more before going to chapter 4. It's generally worth advancing the story since you get more stuff and can always go back. Chapter 6 (or whatever one is deadman) Takes your BB away temporarily so watch out for that
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Uhhhhhh Ive definitely seen a lot of private shelters around before unlocking the ability to make those at the Weather Station Yup same
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There's definitely something up with the likes although I wouldn't worry too much about it lest we become MULES. Built 10 road sections so far, still in chapter 3 and just popped the achievement for 50k likes.
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Spite posted:It's generally worth advancing the story since you get more stuff and can always go back. Oh so it is the end of 3?
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Lanth posted:There's definitely something up with the likes although I wouldn't worry too much about it lest we become MULES. LMAO I'm already full MULE, I booted up the game this morning to check my overnight likes.
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gently caress pizza dude. I completed the road from Lake to South, had a zipline network from South Knot to the farm, just because the dude wanted a pizza from there, and then it turns out that you need to transport an extra fragile item IN YOUR HAND in addition to the pizzas, which means no ziplines or vehicles. Now that felt like a waste, though it helped me five star the farm quickly. And now pizza dude wants another delivery - I fear what he wants this time.
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American McGay posted:I can't imagine a real person putting half of the materials needed for a road into a builder and then just leaving it there. A lot of this stuff is probably highly influenced by the game to control player progress.
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I have not run into a single zip line placed by a player that is connected to another one.  Despite being able to see another in the distanceedit: Also the things that come out of the ground on bridges come out just late enough that if you're just holding forward without thinking, they WILL knock you on your rear end. Trolly rear end Kojima
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Macaluso posted:I have not run into a single zip line placed by a player that is connected to another one.
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