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Pekinduck posted:Yeah, used to work retail, its called "sticker swapping" or something and I think its legally considered fraud. Its why price stickers have cuts across them so you cant easily peel it off in one piece. Fraud or theft, at least in the U.S., it's prosecuted as theft at the stores I've been to.
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Pekinduck posted:Yeah, used to work retail, its called "sticker swapping" or something and I think its legally considered fraud. Its why price stickers have cuts across them so you cant easily peel it off in one piece. Common enough to have a Macklemore song written about it.
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Nov 12, 2019 08:06
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I may have brought this up before, but can we talk about scratch off tickets for a second? Because this poo poo is terrifying to me and feels like a god damned epidemic to me right about now. I know it's not a "scam" in the sense that the odds are known ahead of time, etc. but, holy poo poo. Every god damned time I go into a gas station I see people I KNOW that can't afford it dry humping these things and most of them are not cheap. $10- $20 a pop usually as far as I can tell. I wait in line behind them and watch these folks and watch them routinely dump a tank of gas or greater into these god damned things. There are vending machines in my grocery stores that sell them surrounded by latex shavings all over the floor like so many broken dreams. Now I think I know how people living in Vegas feel with slot machines around every corner. I don't know whether to be angry, disgusted or sad watching this but I can't shake the idea that it's a symptom of things being really wrong and I'm coming around to the general idea that maybe they should be outlawed as a public health epidemic. Who knows where that money really goes but all they're accomplishing is basically taxing the poor and the helpless.
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Nov 13, 2019 00:02
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if you make gambling illegal then it just drives the market and the addicts underground, and it's one more vice to police it's really not great for people to be throwing away hundreds of dollars they don't have on scratch off tickets, but we also don't want people throwing away money on alcohol, tobacco, sex, narcotics, etc. better for all these addictions and habits to be out in the open where some of that money can be turned to public good rather than the profits being returned to private, possibly criminal actors. and in the best case, we would be able to provide support to people with unhealthy habits rather than letting be crushed by capitalism into expensive and harmful coping mechanisms e: florida distributes some (could be more, imo) money to local and college education in the form of grants and scholarships http://www.flalottery.com/site/education Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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BiggerBoat posted:I may have brought this up before, but can we talk about scratch off tickets for a second? Because this poo poo is terrifying to me and feels like a god damned epidemic to me right about now. Where’s the scam here again?
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Nov 13, 2019 02:10
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Midjack posted:Where’s the scam here again? 
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Nov 13, 2019 02:45
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Midjack posted:Where’s the scam here again? It's a scam in the same way like, private health insurance is, where the information about how you're getting dicked down is freely available but rarely explained simply
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Nov 13, 2019 03:08
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luxury handset posted:if you make gambling illegal then it just drives the market and the addicts underground, and it's one more vice to police This can't be emphasized enough. Humans want to gently caress, gamble, and alter their consciousness via drugs/alcohol/whatever. These are constants that permeate all cultures and time periods: it's just part of being human. This is why banning gambling, prostitution, or drugs/alcohol never works and just serves to create a thriving black market. You don't solve impoverished people wasting what little money they have gambling by banning gambling. You do it by fixing the flawed social and economic systems that create impoverished people in the first place.
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Nov 13, 2019 03:20
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You can change the incentive structure to make people gamble less. Limit the price of lottery tickets to $10, limit one per transaction. You either have to go to the back of the line after each purchase, or if there is no line you have to wait for the cashier to ring you up multiple times. The hardcore gamblers will do this, but the social awkwardness will dissuade most normal people from buying more than one. Spending $100 on lottery tickets shouldn't be normalized, just like ordering a single meal at McDonalds that's over 1000 calories shouldn't be considered normal or encouraged.
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Nov 13, 2019 03:48
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Excellent point. Regulation is not helpless to do anything to about this just because banning it outright wasn't working. Regulations are a good thing despised by bad actors. And as explained several pages ago, the lottery is scammy for other reasons, such as spreading PR that your money is going towards education when it often is instead replacing *other* money that would have gone to education instead.
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Nov 13, 2019 04:40
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luxury handset posted:e: florida distributes some (could be more, imo) money to local and college education in the form of grants and scholarships
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Scratchies can potentially be a scam if the odds are horrid enough. Often the odds do suck and are available but are in fine print in a place you aren't likely to notice them. Then again you can literally put pictures of lung cancer on packages of tobacco and still get people going "gently caress it, I'm smoking anyway."
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Midjack posted:Where’s the scam here again? The scam is that people believe this propaganda: luxury handset posted:e: florida distributes some (could be more, imo) money to local and college education in the form of grants and scholarships States that use lottery proceeds to fund education often take as much, or more, of the lottery money out of the education budget and spend it elsewhere. "We actually were better off, in operating dollars, before the lottery," said Charlotte County District Spokesperson Mike Riley. "The lottery money isn't enhancement money," Riley said. "It's replacement money, and not as much money is being replaced." https://www.nbc-2.com/story/38107458/how-much-money-goes-to-schools-from-the-florida-lottery-jackpot
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drat that's a good user name 
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MisterOblivious posted:States that use lottery proceeds to fund education often take as much, or more, of the lottery money out of the education budget and spend it elsewhere. that's a problem with lovely lawmakers, not the lottery  lottery paid for my first college degree and is paying for my kid's daycare, so, thanks gamblers e: that article is pretty shoddy reporting though, this is an excellent point quote:"When the state of Florida was paying 64 percent [in 1986], the total education budget was $7.5 billion, Today, we're paying 56 percent, but it's a $20 billion budget. So that's a much more significant amount of money," said Rodrigues. "[Lottery money] was always supposed to supplant education, and that's what it does." 'number go down' is not a useful argument out of context when, other number go up Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Nov 13, 2019 15:16
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Insurance is a scam.
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Tubgoat posted:Insurance is a scam. Tell that to my open heart surgery bills.
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Proteus Jones posted:Tell that to my open heart surgery bills. I was specifically thinking automotive insurance, though.
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Midjack posted:Where’s the scam here again? Just kind of the lovely way it's a regressive tax on poor people.
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Tubgoat posted:Vote Sanders and this can all go away. If universal healthcare insurance becomes a reality, car insurance should become significantly cheaper. $1600 a year for basic liability here in the US, my father in Europe has never payed more than $200 a year for full coverage.
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Are you in Bizzaro Michigan or something? My 250/500/100 liability is about $70/half.
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Capitalism is a scam.
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Nov 13, 2019 19:09
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Minnesota, but also how you get nothing approaching the cost of your vehicle or the repairs to it should you actually use the insurance, especially when some fuckwad creams you at a double turn lane.
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Got my first "You qualify for zero interest on your credit card" today. I told the guy I didn't have any credit cards. He told me, "My information indicates you have several. You are lying to me. Goodbye."
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Mister Kingdom posted:Got my first "You qualify for zero interest on your credit card" today. That's hilarious. We've gotten a whole bunch of weirdly angry people scam calling our family lately too. Lots of "gently caress you!" when we tell them we don't have an account with that bank/own that credit card/use that model of computer. Last week a guy told my husband that he was going to come over and, quote, "gently caress you and cum on your face" which still makes me laugh. No idea who we pissed off to make this happen.
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I’ve been getting at least 4 calls a day, all with my area code and roughly the same number (123-270-xxxx) each time. I reject the call and they usually don’t leave a voicemail. Finally got a message out of one of them, which was about Extended Warranties for my car. I’ve been getting 4+ calls a day for over two months. Every single day. No matter how many numbers I block, and I block each one that comes through, I keep getting them because they’re spoofing landline numbers from my area. I can’t loving take these calls anymore. I just have my ringer off by default so I wind up missing important calls and texts. Short of setting up my phone to reject all calls that aren’t in my contacts, does anyone have any suggestions on things I can do? I’m already registered on the Do Not Call list, but these scammers don’t abide by the list.
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Mouse Dresser posted:I’ve been getting at least 4 calls a day, all with my area code and roughly the same number (123-270-xxxx) each time. I reject the call and they usually don’t leave a voicemail. Finally got a message out of one of them, which was about Extended Warranties for my car.
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Get one of the 85 apps that will block calls originating from your first 6 that aren't in your contacts. Robokiller and hiya can do this; I think at&t call protect does as well. I think every US carrier has an app for that If you aren't using a smartphone, then I think you're out of luck unfortunately
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Landline. Spam calls to my cell seem to originate from the previous number owner's contacts or employer(s).
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Achmed Jones posted:Get one of the 85 apps that will block calls originating from your first 6 that aren't in your contacts. Robokiller and hiya can do this; I think at&t call protect does as well. I think every US carrier has an app for that About two thirds of my spam calls these days are from completely random numbers in one of two area codes, one being mine and the other from the opposite end of my state. A small but growing portion are from my own drat number. The caller ID says "Voicemail."
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Achmed Jones posted:Get one of the 85 apps that will block calls originating from your first 6 that aren't in your contacts. Robokiller and hiya can do this; I think at&t call protect does as well. I think every US carrier has an app for that If you are using an iPhone, the latest software version has this built in as a native feature. Sends all calls straight to voicemail if they aren't in your contacts or recent call lists.
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What you described is not what I described
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Achmed Jones posted:Get one of the 85 apps that will block calls originating from your first 6 that aren't in your contacts. Robokiller and hiya can do this; I think at&t call protect does as well. I think every US carrier has an app for that I use at&t call protect... the free version is pretty limited, but it’s what i use and last night I received a call that it helpfully labeled “spam”. You can then check the app and see that it’s based on X number of reports. Crowdsourcing calls/numbers seems like it could be a good idea. I used to google numbers and there are a couple of websites that provide feedback for phone numbers but having it in an app on your phone seems much better.
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namlosh posted:I use at&t call protect... the free version is pretty limited, but it’s what i use and last night I received a call that it helpfully labeled “spam”. You can then check the app and see that it’s based on X number of reports. The problem is the scammers spoof random numbers. All crowd sourced reporting does is leave some rando wondering why no one returns his calls. Robocalls are going to require a fix at the infrastructure level, blocking fraudulent spoofing in the first place.
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Mouse Dresser posted:I’ve been getting at least 4 calls a day, all with my area code and roughly the same number (123-270-xxxx) each time. I reject the call and they usually don’t leave a voicemail. Finally got a message out of one of them, which was about Extended Warranties for my car. Those are spoofed number. Blocking them just blocks random numbers.
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wizzardstaff posted:If you are using an iPhone, the latest software version has this built in as a native feature. Sends all calls straight to voicemail if they aren't in your contacts or recent call lists. Thank you, I didn’t know about that feature. I enabled it, so hopefully that’ll help.
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I got a text saying that my Netflix payment hasn't gone through, please click here to fix it. Joke's on them, I don't have a Netflix account. The text saying my phone company owes me money did make me squint for a moment, though, but I blame being tired for that one.
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Inceltown posted:You need better shoppers rights. If it's mispriced then it is on the business for being stupid. Take your bargain and sell it right back to them while laughing. When I was 16 I worked at a big department store with an electronics section and a guy bought two Pentium 1 100 MhZ for the price of two 486SXs (or something, it was like 60% off or so) and I'm 99% sure the dude just swapped the paper price thing inside the plastic price holder thing. I was always surprised the manager that was on duty honored it and always suspected that he was friends with the customer or something, because there was no legal (or moral) reason we had to honor it.
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When I worked retail we would only honour price tags, flyers, catalogues, etc which had the correct stock code on them. So misprinted pricetag with incorrect cheaper price but right stock code had to be honoured, but pricetag from a cheaper item with mismatched stock code wasn't.
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bird with big dick posted:When I was 16 I worked at a big department store with an electronics section and a guy bought two Pentium 1 100 MhZ for the price of two 486SXs (or something, it was like 60% off or so) and I'm 99% sure the dude just swapped the paper price thing inside the plastic price holder thing. I was always surprised the manager that was on duty honored it and always suspected that he was friends with the customer or something, because there was no legal (or moral) reason we had to honor it. Who do you think was getting the 2nd CPU?
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