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It won't be too long before that crack in Iron Man about the soldiers not putting their selfies with Tony up on MySpace doesn't make sense to a lot of people
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Scudworth posted:what sms tone? The SMS tone that went beep beep beep beeeeep beeeeep beeeeep beep beep beep. It used to be on Nokia mobile phones - I'm probably showing my age here
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Nov 4, 2019 20:26
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???? Are you talking about GSM buzz?
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Nov 4, 2019 20:57
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The SMS is coming from inside the house! He's referring to the notification sound for text messages that were mfr specific: Nokia's default was a morse code of beeps.
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Ah, makes sense. I had nokia phones but never got any texts (legitimately, it was rare). Missed out on that aspect.
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inokichi posted:The SMS tone that went beep beep beep beeeeep beeeeep beeeeep beep beep beep. It used to be on Nokia mobile phones - I'm probably showing my age here Thats the SOS beeps, sms only has two long beeps.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I saw WarGames as a kid and was confused by a scene where Matthew Broderick does a little payphone hack to make a call for free A lot of old phone/phreaking tropes persisted well past their actual lifespans. Keeping someone on the line while tracing a call is another one. If any part of the phone system was still analog, tracing took a long time because someone would have to physically take a piece of equipment into the switch center and physically check the circuits to figure out how things were connected. However, this plot device persisted long after the phone networks were almost all digital and they would just have to check the logs to know where a call came from. A notorious case in the 80s where hackers in Germany were attacking national laboratories in the US took quite a while to solve because, while the origin of the calls was fairly easily traced to a general location in Hanover, the exchange they were calling from was still using old rotary equipment and they had to keep the hackers on the phone long enough for someone to call the exchange facility and have a tech manually trace the connection.
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Going back a bit further, floral symbolism has been used in poetry, writing and painting for hundreds of years, peaking in the 19th century. "The language of flowers" was symbolic shorthand for emotional subtext, metatexual commentary and even sexual innuendo. Most educated people in the 19th and early 20th century would know these references. Some of this still persists in practice, such as having white lilies at a wedding, although not many know it symbolizes the virginity of the bride. There was even a reference to floral symbolism in the Harry Potter books.quote:The significance assigned to specific flowers in Western culture varied — nearly every flower had multiple associations, listed in the hundreds of floral dictionaries — but a consensus of meaning for common blooms has emerged. Often, definitions derive from the appearance or behavior of the plant itself. For example, the mimosa, or sensitive plant, represents chastity. This is because the leaves of the mimosa close at night, or when touched. Likewise, the deep red rose and its thorns have been used to symbolize both the blood of Christ and the intensity of romantic love, while the rose's five petals are thought to illustrate the five crucifixion wounds of Christ. Pink roses imply a lesser affection, white roses suggest virtue and chastity, and yellow roses stand for friendship or devotion. The black rose (actually a very dark shade of red, purple, or maroon) has a long association with death and dark magic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_flowers
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Shut up Meg posted:Possibly the only youtube comment that isn't utterly worthless: I learned about this from Abbie Hoffman’s Steal This Book.
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I think a lot of cash money references are going to be lost on people in the future. My son got a cash register toy as a gift and thought the notes were packaging rubbish. He's never known anything other than electronic payments.
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Pocket Billiards posted:I think a lot of cash money references are going to be lost on people in the future.
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Nov 13, 2019 18:27
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How old are you when you really have a need for cash money? My 14 year old has just started to see cash as something she should hoard, but even then it's for stuff like concessions or 2nd hand vapes. I can totally see today's youth not really seeing paper currency as money until their tweens. And by that time we'll be using even fewer physical bills.
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Nov 13, 2019 18:37
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Any media that touches on homosexuality made before 2008 is going to be incredibly strange to people growing up now. Like Hitchcock using implied homosexuality to highlight a characters evil nature is either going to go over their heads or not make sense.
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I'm not so sure about that. Veemo and similar services in the US have much less coverage than WeChat Cash in China, so you still need cash or credit at a normal convenience store. Double digit percentages of millennials and gen Z do not have credit cards. I suspect digital transfer apps will eventually become dominate, but it's going to take far longer in the US than in China.
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Shbobdb posted:Any media that touches on homosexuality made before 2008 is going to be incredibly strange to people growing up now. Like Hitchcock using implied homosexuality to highlight a characters evil nature is either going to go over their heads or not make sense. I had a video production teacher that would show us lots of films made pre 1970s. One thing I remember is all of the subtle clues films would use to indicate that characters were gay because they couldn't outright say so and he tried to explain to us what audiences then would take from those inferences. Another point from the same teacher was about how as audiences became more familiar with the language of film they were able to make larger assumptions. In older movies if a character was traveling they would show them drive up to an air strip, get out of a car and into an air plane, see the plane flying, plane lands, gets out in Paris, enter a cab. In a modern movie there might be a three second cut of a plane flying or more than likely nothing at all. Indiana Jones of course has the map overlayed with a plane flying which was unnecessary for the audience when it came out but was included as an homage to the serial adventures it was inspired by.
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You know in old cartoons characters are getting hit by falling anvils? It turns out that that was actually a thing. From Has anyone ever been killed by a falling piano or anvil?:quote:Finally, anvils. It’s difficult to imagine why one would ever need to hoist an anvil high enough for it to drop on someone. However, we can’t rule falling anvils out entirely, due to a little-known pastime called anvil shooting, an exemplar of the hold-my-beer-and-watch-this school of redneck diversions. Cascadia Pirate posted:I had a video production teacher that would show us lots of films made pre 1970s. One thing I remember is all of the subtle clues films would use to indicate that characters were gay because they couldn't outright say so and he tried to explain to us what audiences then would take from those inferences. The Cowardly Lion from the Wizard of Oz was pretty much all the popular gay stereotypes of the time. It would've been obvious to large parts of the audience then but it is largely lost now. duckmaster posted:Airplane! Large parts of the dialogue from Airplane! were lifted wholesale from an earlier, much more serious movie called Zero Hour!. echopapa posted:American railroads in the late 19th and early 20th centuries often allowed fruit vendors to sell their merchandise on the trains. Con artists soon perfected a scheme where one would buy a banana, eat it, leave the peel on the train’s floor, then wait for their confederate to slip on it and sue the railroad for injuries. Vaudeville comedians took the hint and started using banana peels as objects to slip on. I don't think this is quite right. When New Yorkers Were Menaced by Banana Peels describes one person with a history of fraudulent claims of slipping on banana peels, but it was actually a pretty serious issue in NYC at the time and had been for a while.
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Nov 13, 2019 20:59
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You couldn't get hotdogs without fingers in early 20th century America. Was there really that much money to made on insurance claims?
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Vegetable posted:Was he using credit cards as a kid? Seems unlikely to not know cash money at all, man He's too young to shop by himself and only ever seen us use contactless paypass/paywave with debit cards to pay for things.
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Pocket Billiards posted:He's too young to shop by himself and only ever seen us use contactless paypass/paywave with debit cards to pay for things. Yeah I think in a lot of countries this is the norm. I only really get cash out if I'm going to a craft market or something. I'm kind of curious about how kids' pocket money is going to work in about 10 years or so.
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slinkimalinki posted:I only really get cash out if I'm going to a craft market or something. I'm kind of curious about how kids' pocket money is going to work in about 10 years or so. probably still the same? kids aren't going to have their own cards or smartphone with NFC and it's not like it's a huge ordeal to get cash since every nearly every store that takes cards lets you get cash back.
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Nov 14, 2019 08:42
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You can already get your kid a special debit card that you're able to load value onto. I know the US is behind the rest of the world on cashless transactions, but the framework is just about complete to have a wholesale conversion. You just need all the old POS terminal holdouts to break/get upgraded to NFC. If you're in elementary school now it's going to look completely different by the time you graduate high school.
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slinkimalinki posted:I'm kind of curious about how kids' pocket money is going to work in about 10 years or so.
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Somebody leaving their job and taking their Rolodex with them.
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Krispy Wafer posted:You can already get your kid a special debit card that you're able to load value onto. There were some shops in Philly and New York that tried to go completely cashless and it got banned by the city council because it discriminated against homeless and people who don't have banks.
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Krispy Wafer posted:You can already get your kid a special debit card that you're able to load value onto. Counterpoint: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...N7SOUGjV9uyIU2l
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I had a debit card as a teenager 15 years ago, and it wasn't particularly unusual. I'm guessing this varies by region.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I know the US is behind the rest of the world on cashless transactions, ? I maybe use cash once or twice per year. I don't have any cash in my wallet.
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Nov 14, 2019 20:39
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My Lovely Horse posted:App-based distribution of Fortnite V-Bucks based on completion of chores, and they have to compete with siblings to grab the jobs first. Yeah, I think it's this.
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My Lovely Horse posted:App-based distribution of Fortnite V-Bucks based on completion of chores, and they have to compete with siblings to grab the jobs first. http://www.chorewars.com/help.php
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Cessna posted:? I am sorry to tell you you're not an entire country
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Scudworth posted:I am sorry to tell you you're not an entire country I understand that there are parts of New Jersey that still conduct transactions using shiny rocks and seashells.
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I don't think we'll ever have people confused by the concept of money in media for a very long time. I do think that checks are going to cause some missed concepts- e.g, bouncing checks or waiting for them to clear.
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Floating checks is going to be really confusing.
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ultrafilter posted:You know in old cartoons characters are getting hit by falling anvils? It turns out that that was actually a thing. From Has anyone ever been killed by a falling piano or anvil?: They were doing some architectural ironwork that had to be hand‐fitted.
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Morton Salt’s slogan, “When It Rains It Pours,” made sense at the time it was adopted. It was one of the first table salts to be treated so that it wouldn’t get clumpy in humid conditions.
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echopapa posted:Morton Salt’s slogan, “When It Rains It Pours,” made sense at the time it was adopted. It was one of the first table salts to be treated so that it wouldn’t get clumpy in humid conditions.  Holy poo poo, I never really thought of this. That makes perfect sense.Also, think about how many Young people have never heard a busy signal, or that sound the phone makes whens it's left off the hook too long.
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echopapa posted:Morton Salt’s slogan, “When It Rains It Pours,” made sense at the time it was adopted. It was one of the first table salts to be treated so that it wouldn’t get clumpy in humid conditions. Dafuq? Mind blown. One Nut Wonder posted:Also, think about how many Young people have never heard a busy signal, or that sound the phone makes whens it's left off the hook too long. Don't worry, Hollywood Sound FX departments continue to add those sounds to cellphones, VOIP and cranium implants.
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My Cisco IP phone makes similar sounds when you leave the handset off the hook. Now I’m trying to remember the last time I heard a real busy signal. I’ve heard fast busies in the last year, but that’s a telco problem. The worst you get calling someone is a recording that they’re voicemail isn’t set up.
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I had a busy signal calling my dentist or something a year or two ago. The one I haven't heard in a while is the special information tone. The three tones that came before "We're sorry, this call can't be completed." The tones had some kind of meaning, and they still exist, but not as pure tones.
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Guy Axlerod posted:I had a busy signal calling my dentist or something a year or two ago. The one I haven't heard in a while is the special information tone. The three tones that came before "We're sorry, this call can't be completed." The tones had some kind of meaning, and they still exist, but not as pure tones. Oh yeah my parents took a long time to get cell phones, and it was so odd to me that in present day if someone called and got a busy signal they’d have no way to leave a message and they couldn’t tell anyone phoned. Next project is getting them to drop the landline entirely, it’s 99% scam robocalls.
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