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It's not just some (Mostly crazy) people wanting all the Pokemon ever in there, it's mainly more that they cut a chunk of really good features, were a lot tighter on the amount of Pokemon included in the first place, they factually have a whole roster of really nice high quality models they made a while back which they decided not to use for ????? reasons, said a bunch of the usual "It'll make this better and this'll be smoothed out more though" and then the game feels super slapdash in a bunch of places, the animations on a lot of things are real bad, random buggy/low quality things keep jumping out and so on, which is hugely disappointing for their big new entry. And I mean like, when the still to this day gargantuan, massively huge and profitable almost every single time game series is cutting corners this hard, it's worth people getting mad and saying something's wrong. (It's really capitalism's fault but still) Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Yardbomb posted:It's not just some (Mostly crazy) people wanting all the Pokemon ever in there, it's mainly more that they cut a chunk of really good features, were a lot tighter on the amount of Pokemon included in the first place, they factually have a whole roster of really nice high quality models they made a while back which they decided not to use for ????? reasons, said a bunch of the usual "It'll make this better and this'll be smoothed out more though" and then the game feels super slapdash in a bunch of places, the animations on a lot of things are real bad, random buggy/low quality things keep jumping out and so on, which is hugely disappointing for their big new entry. the issue is that these frustrations are all misdirected towards the developers at Game Freak rather than The Pokemon Company strangleholding them into annual production of games
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Nov 14, 2019 16:05
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I'm curious to see the difference in quality of the Switch models compared to the ones they ported over from the 3DS. It sounds like the game was rushed and they weren't ready for release. I wonder if it's something they can fix up with updates.
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Nov 14, 2019 16:27
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Jimbot posted:I'm curious to see the difference in quality of the Switch models compared to the ones they ported over from the 3DS. It sounds like the game was rushed and they weren't ready for release. I wonder if it's something they can fix up with updates. Ultra Sun and Moon being a full price update to S&M released 364 days later tells me that yeah, they'll probably fix and add some things just in time for next year's Greatsword and Greatshield.
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Nov 14, 2019 16:37
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So it's another instance of a company working its devs to death and letting them take the flak for whatever mishaps that creates? Cool, cool.
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Nov 14, 2019 16:41
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The problem with the pokemon thing is that there are some extremely valid criticisms of it but a lot of the focus is on like calling a short shadow render distance “insane” but the other side has a bunch of people being like “wow look at those entitled guys who wanted the first mainline pokemon game on a home console to not be scaled down and rushed” It’s a conflict where one side would’ve loved it no matter what and the other would’ve hated it no matter what so it’s really hard to want to side with either of them The true take is that game freak should unionize
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watho posted:The problem with the pokemon thing is that there are some extremely valid criticisms of it but a lot of the focus is on like calling a short shadow render distance “insane” but the other side has a bunch of people being like “wow look at those entitled guys who wanted the first mainline pokemon game on a home console to not be scaled down and rushed” This is the best take I've seen, thanks. I'm still exicted for Pokemon tomorrow, but also would have been cool with giving Game Freak more time to cook it so it's *better*.
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Clerical Terrors posted:So it's another instance of a company working its devs to death and letting them take the flak for whatever mishaps that creates? You forgot "with a fanbase that demands and celebrates this behavior". If it's a shoddy or buggy release, sure, that's a corner being cut, but because the imagined feature list isn't "everything and anything we hoped for" that's just ridiculous. /why yes, I work in software, why do you ask?
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stillvisions posted:If it's a shoddy or buggy release, sure, that's a corner being cut, but because the imagined feature list isn't "everything and anything we hoped for" that's just ridiculous. The games apparently are pretty rushed and buggy, yes. And by reports from dataminers and leaked game streamers it recycles some animations and possibly most of the pokemon models from the 3DS games. They also didn't just cut half of existing pokemon, but also a large pool of moves (many of which were redundant but also stuff like hidden power, return, and signature moves for some pokemon species). They also removed mega evolutions and z-moves for the gigantamax feature, which is only useable in more limited situations like raids and gyms. Apparently the GTS is cut except for Wonder Trading, and it's expected you'll need the Pokemon Home app to trade online. It's not out yet but it's expected to be another subscription service like the Poke Bank, which you'll have to pay for on top of paying for Nintendo Online anyway. The open world feature is apparently quite dull and lead to the removal of any interesting dungeon design, making the story mode quite short, and the post-game facility is even more limited than the last few 3DS games.
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Nuns with Guns posted:The games apparently are pretty rushed and buggy, yes. And by reports from dataminers and leaked game streamers it recycles some animations and possibly most of the pokemon models from the 3DS games. They also didn't just cut half of existing pokemon, but also a large pool of moves (many of which were redundant but also stuff like hidden power, return, and signature moves for some pokemon species). Doesn't Creatures, Inc do the pokemon models and animations? I thought it was done that way so they'd have consistent animations for spinoff games developed by other companies like Let's Go Pikachu? Nothing I saw looked new outside of the rendering engine so far.
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Reusing models is fine. The current pokemon models were made specifically so that they could be reused. The problem that a lot of people have with it is that a Game Freak representative said in an interview that they had to rebuild the models from scratch for the switch, and now it is becoming clear that these are the exact same models. A lot of people are angry about it, saying they lied about that to justify the cutting of many pokemon. Personally, I’m more confused than anything else. Why would they give an excuse which is not only false, but so easy to prove wrong? Why not just say that the national dex had to be cut eventually so they decided to rip off the bandaid now?
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The nationaldex is so far down the list as to why the game is a shitshow, even if it's one of the things people are harping on the most
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I'm certain it was down to a badly translated interview. I think I recall something similarly stupid due to English speaking gamers confabulating something from a interview with the dark souls guy.
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Crocoswine posted:The nationaldex is so far down the list as to why the game is a shitshow, even if it's one of the things people are harping on the most I don't know about that, I just got the game and so far I'm having fun. It's charming and cute. Also, to add to this, I had a (very minor) fight on my hands to even get the game, as the street date breaking shop I always go to was nearly sold out when I got there after work. If someone hadn't decided at the last minute they rather wanted Shield instead of Sword, I'd have to actually wait until tomorrow and go to another shop! Man, that would have been annoying
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In lighter news, Clinton's a terf now https://twitter.com/outmagazine/status/1194716253530787840?s=19
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A big flaming stink posted:In lighter news, Clinton's a terf now Hillary Clinton the Internet Personality is a scary prospect.
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Another internet creator tragically Cancelled
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JordanKai posted:Hillary Clinton the Internet Personality is a scary prospect. "It was everyone else's fault but mine!" She'd fit right in.
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A big flaming stink posted:In lighter news, Clinton's a terf now "rebrand"
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Dabir posted:Calling yourself a gamer implicitly makes playing video games a key part of your identity in a way that probably isn't healthy. it's really not unusual
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Nov 14, 2019 21:23
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Yeah, that's right. I"m a booker.
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If you've managed to not meet a Harry Potter obsessed nerd in "mainstream" culture you've lived a charmed life.
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speaking of bookers does it count when non-internet personalities behave like weird youtube freaks? https://jezebel.com/how-to-use-the-fictional-teenage-girl-1839863520 Basically Sarah Dessen, a young adult lit writer, took personal offence at a nobody college student suggesting that a reading course doesn't need her book on it because it's more for young teen girls rather than the freshmen college age group they're focusing on. This lead to her and a bunch of other YA writers dunking on the student so bad the college had to apologize, all the while not realizing what absolute ghouls they're being. She also hilariously cropped the screengrab she posted to get people mad at the student to avoid mentioning that the book they chose instead was a story by a black man about the racial injustice he faced. Ya know, an actual book.
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sexpig by night posted:speaking of bookers does it count when non-internet personalities behave like weird youtube freaks? Lmao
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sexpig by night posted:speaking of bookers does it count when non-internet personalities behave like weird youtube freaks? quote:In a reply to one of Picoult’s tweets, novelist Jennifer Weiner compared one young woman’s opinion of Dessen’s books to the Larry Nassar scandal extremely normal
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in not garbage news, I've been forgetting to check out Drawfee for ages and had no idea they had a weird variety show now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5iOsqptGno There's so many good episodes I've already seen.
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Bug Squash posted:I'm certain it was down to a badly translated interview. I think I recall something similarly stupid due to English speaking gamers confabulating something from a interview with the dark souls guy. it could also be they were encouraged/compelled to lie by nintendo because nintendo is a lovely company that already does things like this
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Ghostlight posted:Yeah, that's right. I"m a booker. Here, catch!
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JordanKai posted:Hillary Clinton the Internet Personality is a scary prospect. She broadcasts through the same time hole from 1994 that James Rolfe uses to reach us, but not in a good way.
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The Sarah Dessen thing is making me laugh so much because I read her books as a teenage girl and they are such teenage girl books. And that's all that college student said about them! "These are aimed at teenagers, which is fine, but this is university and we should be trying to challenge readers at a higher level." The author is so sensitive that an accurate description of the target audience of her books made her cry!
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I mean I took a university course on young adult literature so it would fit in that context. What was the course that dressen was insisting her book needed to be discussed in?
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It's not even for a course. It's just a program where the first years all read the same book and can attend a lecture by the author or an expert about it. https://www.northern.edu/academics/honors-program/nsu-common-read
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2014 was Ready Player One - I think they mean it as a Fluffy Togetherness thing and not a Serious Study thing. Edit: But the author should have left the student the hell alone tho.
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In frustrating and sad news, Octav1us Kitten has shut down their Patreon and Twitter, feeling that they can't in good conscience ask for money while they're going through too much to have any output, and feeling that Twitter's a bit too toxic. Really sucks. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:In frustrating and sad news, Octav1us Kitten has shut down their Patreon and Twitter, feeling that they can't in good conscience ask for money while they're going through too much to have any output, and feeling that Twitter's a bit too toxic. Really sucks. i know, it's awful. The amount of poo poo that Octy gets from certain quarters, especially after the Horace situation...it's beyond the pale. Some really foul people about. It'd probably amaze people to hear that parts of the community for a 40 year old long dead British microcomputer are so utterly cancerous. But, here we are.
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Bakeneko posted:You’re far more likely to get confused looks from people who still think gaming is just for kids, than you are to find someone in real life who knows/cares about all this online drama related to the gamer label. Pretty much, though I feel like there aren't that many people who think gaming is just for kids. Family members have referred to me as such in conversation ("Max, I think you'd get along with my co-worker Dave, since he's a gamer. too"), and it's because they know that playing video games is one of my main hobbies. Still, whenever it happens, I worry about it happening in a more public setting in earshot of an extremely online person, and I die a little inside. Libluini posted:Ha, our mom literally called our PSX "the Nintendo" Well, Nintendo was initially going to produce the PSX, so she wasn't too far off.  Ghostlight posted:Yeah, that's right. I"m a booker. Single- or double-entry?
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I watched the Noah Gervais video on red dead today in a few sessions. It went by surprisingly fast until I realized that the final game took up more than half of the screen time  It was a very good video tho, gave me a good perspective on a series I’d brushed off because of how much I’ve despised rockstar in the last decade or so.
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IronicDongz posted:plenty of people make stuff like their consumption of and tastes in music and movies and books a key part of their identity I didn't say unusual
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watho posted:I watched the Noah Gervais video on red dead today in a few sessions. It went by surprisingly fast until I realized that the final game took up more than half of the screen time
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