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rap music
Mar 11, 2006

If I had one wish it would be for jumping to completely gently caress accuracy

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Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


rap music posted:

If I had one wish it would be for jumping to completely gently caress accuracy

This and for Devs to start taking a stand on XIM.

My buddy and I are 14-2 in Gunfight. God drat is that game mode addicting.

Beastie fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Nov 15, 2019

colachute
Mar 15, 2015

Jumping off of ledges and getting a headshot is the closest thing to an action movie my life has.

Manxome Foe
Apr 6, 2005

Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!

Wowzers.

I can def. tell the 725 has been toned down, but in tight areas it's still a beast.

Mae
Aug 1, 2010

Supesudandi wa, kukan-nai no dandidesu

If the shield 1shots what’s the point of the knife?

The shield is already good, it just needs to get used in conjunction with other tools, like throwing knives or a giant honking RPG.

That being said, they absolutely should change the double kill requirement because it’s obscenely difficult.

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

Mae posted:

If the shield 1shots what’s the point of the knife?

The shield is already good, it just needs to get used in conjunction with other tools, like throwing knives or a giant honking RPG.

That being said, they absolutely should change the double kill requirement because it’s obscenely difficult.

The knife makes you Fast!
Doesn't carrying the knife make all of your melees 1 hit? It should, if not, as just a passive benefit, and if you wanna sprint you hold it directly.

Shield is just in a bad place now, even as a gimmick.

Using it 'in conjunction' now is a death sentence because they removed any interim animation during your throw. The shield literally teleports onto your back the moment you click to toss your knife/grenade etc.
Pretty sure it does that when you swap guns too, where it used to have an animation/pose for holding it to the side making you a little vulnerable instead of just wide open shoot-me-please that it is now.

DarkDobe fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Nov 15, 2019

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

The thing about the jumping is that everyone who does it is a total scrub, just like the belly flopping or dophin diving whatever people are calling it. So it should be addressed, but only to troll them.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
The point of the knife is that it's way faster and more mobile. I don't know what kind of hitbox it has when attacking but the shields seems pretty small and the attack is slow.

The reason that shields should be a OHK isn't to turn them into unstoppable killing machines, it's simply to make them more survivable during close engagements.

This is how I see shield engagements:

Long range vs shield - stalemate - a gun user can't effectively use a lethal or find an angle to shoot me.

Mid-long range - slight disadvantage - lethals and tacticals come into play and there are likely more angles to be shot.

Mid-short range - slightly more disadvantaged - easier to direct impact me with semtex or molotovs. A gunners speed advantage really comes into effect here as it's much essier to slip to a side and start shooting. And that speed advantage also means that tacticals are more dangerous at this range even when using battle hardened.

Close range - extreme disadvantage - the only way a shield user has to deal with you here is by bashing but most guns are faster at it even without adding attachments and there are multiple attachments that improve melee ability while the shield has no attachments at all. Plus a gun is way more mobile and can easily get around a shield or simply jump and shoot over it. Making shields a OHK simply changes this type of engagement from heavily disadvantaged to merely being at a regular disadvantage.

Edit - even if the shield was a OHK, I would still expect to lose close engagements like 60-70% of the time but it sure as hell would be better and more fun than dying the 90-95% of the time currently.

TMMadman fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Nov 15, 2019

soggybagel
Aug 6, 2006
The official account of NFL Tackle Phil Loadholt.

Let's talk Football.
Oh and it maybe filled a few days but last night I was getting killed a lot by 725. On shoothouse it’s a beast still.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

soggybagel posted:

Oh and it maybe filled a few days but last night I was getting killed a lot by 725. On shoothouse it’s a beast still.

to be fair, the engagement ranges for that map are well suited for it. the cave, piccadilly, and maybe grazna would be better tests

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



I wish i had more time to game, and less time at stupid work.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh
Dear pubbies.

Shoot.

The.

VTOL.

Jesus Christ, they all seem satisfied to get melted on Shoot House Domination by that thing.

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

Not that I ever do this, but I can see using the shield as passive protection from getting shot in the back

It’s also pretty good for turtling in hq which I discovered after picking one up off a guy turtling in hq

It seems to break peoples’ brains

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

TMMadman posted:

It does track by weapon. I have somewhere around 75-80 kills with the shield and like 800 deaths. My shield is currently at level 31 and my highest actual weapon is 30 and my RPG is 28.

I primarily play objective games with the shield, so I don't really care about deaths and am mostly just happy to cap points and gum up the works. It's just frustrating to me that for as fun as I find it to run around with the shield that the best tactic for someone else to deal with the shield is to just run straight at it.

Tbh I accidentally punched a guy to death today that was face to face attacking me with a shield and that was an interesting combo of "lol haha" and "hmm idk if that's a legit game move I just did"

Also most of the time I die to shields I don't know the guy is there and it's from behind and tbh ....if you get angry at dying that way, lol

E: when I get home I'm gonna figure out my shield deaths as an overall % of deaths. Keeping in mind I mostly play hc and realism (tho realistically the brunt of my deaths are on shoothouse, no doubt. Yesterday I spawned next to an enemy sentry. Thankfully the harrier I spawned under killed me first

Worf fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Nov 15, 2019

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Dear pubbies.

Shoot.

The.

VTOL.


my 725 can't reach :downsgun:

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Mister Facetious posted:

my 725 can't reach :downsgun:

Ah man, day 1 must have been fun for you then

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

Also the knife doesn’t make you run faster than say an smg which is far more useful, and the smg would be even faster with a movement speed attachment or two

Personally I think the knife range is way too short, even for a melee weapon, considering it doesn’t make you any faster than a typical loadout. I have found myself chasing after guys by only a foot or so, flailing helplessly at the air

The only way for the knife to not be a wasted weapon slot is to have it actually improve run speed

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Dear pubbies.

Shoot.

The.

VTOL.

Jesus Christ, they all seem satisfied to get melted on Shoot House Domination by that thing.

The best is when someone will camp the wall near a or c and just ignore that we dont control the flag right behind them. Fuckshits.

Just played a couple rounds with a suppressor added to the MP5 and them M14 to rack up some kills towards a challenge, none registered :D Boy does it make the MP5 wild, M14 much more forgiving (of course)

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

The m14 is actually a total beast imo

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

rap music posted:

The m14's 90 degree recoil is actually a total beast imo

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



rap music posted:

Also the knife doesn’t make you run faster than say an smg which is far more useful, and the smg would be even faster with a movement speed attachment or two

Personally I think the knife range is way too short, even for a melee weapon, considering it doesn’t make you any faster than a typical loadout. I have found myself chasing after guys by only a foot or so, flailing helplessly at the air

The only way for the knife to not be a wasted weapon slot is to have it actually improve run speed

It's also dumb as poo poo because you can get the Melee Perk for pretty much every gun that makes it a OHK.

colachute
Mar 15, 2015

When I approach someone with a shield I just throw c4 with a super high arch and blow up theirs heads.

I’d say about 70% of the time it works every time.

The other 30% is me usually blowing myself up.

Pleads
Jun 9, 2005

pew pew pew


Semtex is a really satisfying way to shut down a cocky shield guy. Stick'em and run away, laughing.

I say this as a guy with a shield in 2 of my 5 custom loadouts, because they are fun and sometimes I get shot in the back and don't die and get to live out my dreams of cosplaying a turtle.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Yorkshire Pudding posted:

It's also dumb as poo poo because you can get the Melee Perk for pretty much every gun that makes it a OHK.

This is definitely part of the reason why I'm frustrated that shields aren't a OHK. Hell, I probably wouldn't even care if it was an attachment and you needed X number of kills before it unlocks.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


rap music posted:

If I had one wish it would be for jumping to completely gently caress accuracy

Totally agree. I hate that bunny hopping all over is the meta now. It looks loving idiotic and ruins my game vibes.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

My goal when I got this game was to be a dmr specialist

But tbh I prefer getting kills to dying so

Notice how nobody clamoring to nerf any dmr lmao

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

rap music posted:

Not that I ever do this, but I can see using the shield as passive protection from getting shot in the back

It's very good for this reason if none other.

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

I’m annoyed that I thought rpg stripe skins were bugged but in actuality I was supposed to be running cold blooded this whole time, which isn’t specified anywhere. I would have its gold skin already :argh:

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

rap music posted:

I’m annoyed that I thought rpg stripe skins were bugged but in actuality I was supposed to be running cold blooded this whole time, which isn’t specified anywhere. I would have its gold skin already :argh:

Is that what it takes to unlock them? Do you need to have the perk that makes equal visible to do that challenge too?

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

TMMadman posted:

Is that what it takes to unlock them? Do you need to have the perk that makes equal visible to do that challenge too?

Spotter? Yes but that’s for the topo skins

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord
Balancing the shields offence vs defence is a real tight rope and I'd rather they came down on the side of them not totally shutting you down for having the wrong kind of lethal

codo27 posted:

The thing about the jumping is that everyone who does it is a total scrub, just like the belly flopping or dophin diving whatever people are calling it. So it should be addressed, but only to troll them.

Force wide hip fire until the animation is complete. It doesnt feel as bad as some of the old days like dolphin diving was

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG
I'd rather get killed by dropshotters and people jumping around like crazy than get killed by another guy who thinks that sitting in a corner of a room with a shotgun and your crosshairs parked on a door is considered playing the game.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Carecat posted:

Balancing the shields offence vs defence is a real tight rope and I'd rather they came down on the side of them not totally shutting you down for having the wrong kind of lethal

This is a bad argument considering that you can change your loadout mid match.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

rap music posted:

If I had one wish it would be for jumping to completely gently caress accuracy

That'd be nice. Pair it up with the whole sprinting makes you aim slower mechanic and it'd help a bit.

Beastie posted:

This and for Devs to start taking a stand on XIM.

This too, though I feel the devs would claim The Treasured E-Sportz Demographic uses them so welp.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

rap music posted:

Spotter? Yes but that’s for the topo skins

Yeah that's what I meant. I was wondering why I wasn't getting credit for equipment destroyed.

But ugh, I'm not going to be happy about trying to do that challenge, at least with my shield and spear (RPG) class. Maybe I'll switch up another class.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

TMMadman posted:

This is a bad argument considering that you can change your loadout mid match.

seriously, this is one of the best quality of life features they've ever added since the ability to change your loadouts with an app in Ghosts.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Mister Facetious posted:

seriously, this is one of the best quality of life features they've ever added since the ability to change your loadouts with an app in Ghosts.

Plus it's also not true since every lethal in the game except for the throwing knife will destroy any shield user who isn't using EOD. So I'm not sure what exactly the OP is thinking about there.

Mill Village
Jul 27, 2007

Capn Beeb posted:


This too, though I feel the devs would claim The Treasured E-Sportz Demographic uses them so welp.

The E-Sports players use SCUFs.

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

Knife should deffo give a lil speed boost.
Didnt think that a mobility specced smg would be faster but yep. It be.
The knife is...better in normal? Since its a onehit - but the advantage is nil in HC.

Ill keep playing my naked k98+ knife man in HC Search and Destroy.

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Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


My buddy was trying to tell me that Realism is just normal tdm without a hud. I've been saying its hc tdm (minus ff) without the hud.

Which is it?

Edit: typed hd, meant to type hc

Beastie fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Nov 15, 2019

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