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xcloud is also going to support game pass, so stadia is completely DOA sure, when xcloud launches you'll be able to play hundreds of game pass games on toaster PCs and tablets but.. here at stadia we have destiny 2 and tomb raider*. checkmate * you have to pay for tomb raider ** you also have to pay the subscription fee to play destiny 2 at launch *** you need to have a chromecast ultra founder's edition and one of our lovely google controllers, really you're losing money if you don't buy these
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The 7th Guest posted:xcloud is also going to support game pass, so stadia is completely DOA 1) there is no "sub fee at launch" - the bundle includes a 3 month sub + 3m buddy pass and you can keep playing any games you bought after that period without being a subscriber 2) All chromecast will support it, if you're buying the launch bundle you get a chromecast at launch. All other chromecasts are going to support it within a couple weeks once they push the firmware update to other chromecasts. If already have a chromecast, all you need is the controller - $69. 3) Stadia also works on toasters hostile apostle fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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hostile apostle posted:1) there is no "sub fee at launch" - the bundle includes a 3 month sub + 3m buddy pass and you can keep playing after that period without being a subscriber There is still no official launch date for the "free" base version of Stadia, other than sometime in 2020, so you cannot say that with any certainty. 
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hostile apostle posted:If already have a chromecast, all you need is the controller - $69. THIS should have been their messaging all along. Like, it was stupid to even call it Stadia, or anything other than "Chromecast". Just go, "hey, soon you'll be able to play games on Chromecast! Here's the games available first, we'll have more later." Instead it's being marketed as a whole new big thing, making a ton of promises it can't possibly live up to, and the messaging about the pricing is so hosed up most people think you need to subscribe to use it.
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I'm sure google early internal pitches did not take into account them going head to head against Microsoft. If sony manage to announce they're going all in on psnow + your own digital library streaming before stadia launches the non-founders edition, they're pretty much hosed.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:THIS should have been their messaging all along. Like, it was stupid to even call it Stadia, or anything other than "Chromecast". Just go, "hey, soon you'll be able to play games on Chromecast! Here's the games available first, we'll have more later." people don't have *that* chromecast though people have the version built into their TV, if they even remember that's what it's called
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Fallom posted:people don't have *that* chromecast though Allegedly its coming for Android TV cast https://www.androidcentral.com/stadia-coming-android-tv-2020-along-android-11-r-and-more
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Last year Google had project stream and I thought they promised a free steam key of assassin's Creed. Did they ever deliver on that? Don't think I ever got a key.
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Harminoff posted:Last year Google had project stream and I thought they promised a free steam key of assassin's Creed. Did they ever deliver on that? Don't think I ever got a key. they did but it took like 3 months
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Bofast posted:There is still no official launch date for the "free" base version of Stadia, other than sometime in 2020, so you cannot say that with any certainty. There's no way they would cut off access to people who bought games at the end of the trial
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Harminoff posted:Last year Google had project stream and I thought they promised a free steam key of assassin's Creed. Did they ever deliver on that? Don't think I ever got a key. Uplay key. they sent them out on the date they said they would, but you had to dig around to find that. I finshed the game locally.
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hostile apostle posted:There's no way they would cut off access to people who bought games at the end of the trial Until they officially launch the free version we don't know what they will do. They could just give you the option to wait for the free version to regain access, keep paying to keep access or (less likely) just refund you outright if they end up with just 2000 users globally or something.
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I wonder how things will be spun, if it actually does fail. If the naysayers will be blamed, even tho this service already got a considerable amount of fan girls, judging the subreddit, some comment sections of game news sites and our local astroturfer.
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Nov 15, 2019 09:41
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The Verge is such a lovely site. Really writer of the Verge, Google is best positioned for this? You know, better than Microsoft with Second place in the cloud wars over Google's third. Has an existing and popular gaming platform, an existing and popular gaming subscription and popular exclusives? Case in point: I need to take regular breaks from the Verge over how narrow minded so many of their writers are.
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Darth TNT posted:The Verge is such a lovely site. Really writer of the Verge, Google is best positioned for this? Now now, they have to be "neutral", which means publishing press releases verbatim, without commentary. It's called tech journalism.
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Nov 15, 2019 09:59
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The Labour Party have promised to nationalise broadband and give everyone free fibre so maybe Stadia will work in the UK after all lmao
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Yeah, I'm sure the country that's been really right-wing for decades is just about to go all-in on Labour.
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Nov 15, 2019 11:20
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It will when it hears about stadia!!
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Nov 15, 2019 11:47
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We have amazing broadband here in the UK anyway. I live in the stickiest part of the sticks, and we get 80 megs a second for about 24 quid a month, and no one has caps. No, the UK is already set for Stadia. Stadia is still going to suck here, like it is everywhere, but not because of a lack of infrastructure.
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I hope Stadia imploding will severely hurt xCloud’s chances, but given the narrative seems to be “see Google? Microsoft is doing is RIGHT” I’m afraid the opposite will happen.
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Funso Banjo posted:We have amazing broadband here in the UK anyway. "Around 7% of UK premises have full-fibre broadband internet, compared to Spain (71%), Portugal (89%), Japan (97%) and South Korea (99%)" And if you want to know more about what could have been: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/world-of-tech/how-the-uk-lost-the-broadband-race-in-1990-1224784 quote:"In 1979 I presented my results," he tells us, "and the conclusion was to forget about copper and get into fibre. So BT started a massive effort - that spanned in six years - involving thousands of people to both digitise the network and to put fibre everywhere. The country had more fibre per capita than any other nation. (thanks UK megathread)
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I can imagine a scenario where Stadia fails pretty badly and loses support within a year... but then, a few years from now, "Streaming Games" appears as a tab on the Google Play store, and you can just purchase one-off games to play through your browser... and everyone realizes that it's basically Stadia, except now it's just "another thing you can do with google" like renting and buying movies, rather than the "New Game Console" it was trying to be previously.
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Not everywhere has "full fiber to the door" but we have a wide deployment of "fibre to the cabinet" and local loop unbundled copper ADSL which provides good bandwidth with good variety of ISPs in competition with each other.
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"Fiber to the cabinet" means VDSL, typically. The UK really is far from a leader in broadband. I guess it could be worse, though.
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I had to switch from 200mb virgin to 40mb BT and my connection would drop multiple times a day for a month for literally no reason. BT is not good.
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jarlywarly posted:Not everywhere has "full fiber to the door" but we have a wide deployment of "fibre to the cabinet" and local loop unbundled copper ADSL which provides good bandwidth with good variety of ISPs in competition with each other. Bandwidth isn't the issue, it's latency and not just that consistent latency. You could get used to push the buttons on the controller 200ms early if your TV had a 200ms delay. When the internet is going between 20 and 30ms your input is going to be early or late by a few ms pretty much all the time, no big deal just a few frames. But then it spikes to 160 for a bit, a packet gets dropped and oh that's just how copper is only now you have 30-45ms latency for some reason so your timing is all screwed up again.
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cool av posted:please don't support google Google had all the chances in the world to make this a legit attempt: Wait until all the software/hardware is done before releasing, secure a wide range of *good* games (including classics) for initial release, declare extended console longevity and support. But, no, instead: cool av posted:please don't support google
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jarlywarly posted:good bandwidth with good variety of ISPs in competition with each other. you're nationalised m8
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Here's another unfavorable use case, that I just got reminded about earlier because my sister was bitching about lovely internet due to three kids hogging it with Youtube viewing (which seems to be leaner in bandwidth than Stadia due to proper offline encoding): Connection sharing.
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I love the argument that I don't need to buy a console anymore. Right, and if I do that, I get 1080p (really less due to video compression) and stereo sound. You know instead of 4k (occasionally native) with surround sound. And I can play the best hits of 2018 instead!
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Cemetry Gator posted:I love the argument that I don't need to buy a console anymore. Stadia has 4k w/ 5.1 A bunch of unboxing videos are out: IGN - https://youtu.be/mYwK77yyP5A Unbox Therapy - https://youtu.be/NNa8y_GyPXU GameXplain - https://youtu.be/V4JIZL3xda0 PCWorld - https://youtu.be/4EKe4jnYFxQ PCMag - https://youtu.be/kDKFDDP8o-E DualShockers - https://youtu.be/uf7xCybSqIA Nerd Reactor - https://youtu.be/1vdTlZ6RjUk Kenneth Dée - https://youtu.be/WUNomjtdGLc
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hostile apostle posted:Stadia has 4k w/ 5.1 If you pay for the premium sub, and even then it's not guaranteed because video compression and your personal internet speed.
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those are videos of people taking things out of a box that have zero function at this time, correct?
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cams posted:those are videos of people taking things out of a box that have zero function at this time, correct? Yep it's literally people looking at a controller
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hostile apostle posted:Stadia has 4k w/ 5.1 you work for google right??
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leftist heap posted:you work for google right?? Yep. And they don't even have the good grace to hand-deliver Stadia to people in this thread.
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cams posted:those are videos of people taking things out of a box that have zero function at this time, correct? this is the purest form of the unboxing video
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A French unboxing video I found inferred the service was operational for them and they'd be doing a deep dive Monday night (so Monday afternoon for North America).
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leftist heap posted:you work for google right?? Hahaha he most definitely does.
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