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alansmithee posted:So I was wondering, is there a reason Sumail hasn't joined another team yet? I know the rumors were always he was playing with his brother, but it seems strange that he wasn't picked up basically immediately after EG released him. Isn't he still considered one of the better mids in the world? EG never released him. He's still under contract and if anyone wants him on their team they have to reach an agreement on a buy out with EG. http://www.evilgeniuses.gg/news/eg-2020-dota-roster quote:First, it is prudent to discuss our departures. Gustav “s4” Magnusson and Sumail “SumaiL” Hassan will remain under contract and be open to transfer talks. I don't believe s4 is on a team either and that's also why. IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Nov 15, 2019 |
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IcePhoenix posted:EG never released him. He's still under contract and if anyone wants him on their team they have to reach an agreement on a buy out with EG. That seems really lovely. Unless my understanding is off (which it could be since things have changed rapidly) but the actual org salaries are a small part of the overall income, and most comes from outside endorsements, tournaments, etc. So they're basically locked out of a big part of their revenue stream (and I also doubt EG's gonna bother promoting either of them much knowing they're gonna be on another team).
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 10:19 |
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It's a sports contract - they are designed to favor the org. That being said, I doubt the buyouts are super steep. Life of a Genius is a cool PR thing but it also shows just how much Phil plus whoever was around (Fear, ppd, Crit, etc) had to babysit Sumail sometimes.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 14:41 |
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It also kind of amuses me that people cry out for more protection for the players with contracts that the org can't just terminate with effectively no warning, but this is the byproduct of that.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 15:14 |
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We also don’t know if sumail has gotten any offers or not and has decided to maybe take a bit of a break.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 15:16 |
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On a different subject Zai streaming with Yapzor ruining high rank games is some fun poo poo Safe lane Yasha Axe doesn't seem to be working so far but offlane Blink Refresher QoP did pretty well
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:On a different subject Zai streaming with Yapzor ruining high rank games is some fun poo poo XinQ was ahead of the meta
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 19:40 |
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Wasnt there someone on Infamous that grabbed two Blinks on QOP and ended up losing?
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Zurreco posted:It's a sports contract - they are designed to favor the org. That being said, I doubt the buyouts are super steep. Life of a Genius is a cool PR thing but it also shows just how much Phil plus whoever was around (Fear, ppd, Crit, etc) had to babysit Sumail sometimes. I underestand sports contracts will tend to favor the org, but as I pointed out unlike other sports leagues where outside of a few ultra-famous stars the vast majority of the money a player makes is from the contract, my understanding is the actual org pays little and it's tourney prize pools and endorsement opportunities and things of that nature. When Carmelo got paid to stay away from the Rockets it's not like he was losing out on much because they still had to pay him.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 20:27 |
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The big orgs pay high 5 digits. Specifically Sumail was said to be making 6 digits from his salary in an interview with Phil a while ago. https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/16/16155504/dota2-the-international-valve-2017-esports-economics TL paid their team 100k-200k salaries. Kild fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Nov 15, 2019 |
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From what I've gleaned from streams, T1 teams pay enough salary that you don't need anything else - high 5 to low 6 figures if you attend LANs. If you stream or do sponsor events, the kickbacks are substantial but not necessary. You also get most incidentals comped (according to when pdd and Uni were on EG). Grant said that EG players rarely stream because their compensation is great as is. Keep in mind that Grant gets paid enough by EG as a personality that he was willing to leave a job w benefits. If you're on a T2 team, salaries are living wage but there is good pay to stream with their overlay and sponsors on. BSJ said he stopped aggressively advertising coaching sessions because coL paid him well enough to just stream with their logo. T3 teams are where you basically get food and a cheap teamhouse room as your salary.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 23:57 |
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Team Spirit draft is the most obnoxious bullshit and I hope they lose bad.
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# ? Nov 16, 2019 03:52 |
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TNC still picking Venomancer. Pretty much the only team doing that these days e: Ballsy plays from Alliance. OG-like emdash fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Nov 16, 2019 |
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lmao EG
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# ? Nov 16, 2019 17:18 |
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Really impressive the new EG still manages to lose to the new Liquid in incredibly embarrassing ways
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# ? Nov 16, 2019 17:23 |
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This Alch is doing it, somehow
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 07:02 |
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alchemist what a hero
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 07:15 |
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33 just refusing to die
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 07:16 |
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These fnatic lanes are looking suspect
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Yeah this one was looking bad at minute 1
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 08:11 |
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30k networth lead at 29 minutes, yikes
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 08:29 |
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Morph aghs, eh?
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 13:34 |
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morph is just the most broken thing
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 13:45 |
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I am so ready for morph / es to get nerfed lol
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 14:02 |
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what is it about morph with ES clone that makes it so strong? I only caught the end of the game and playing around in demo mode it seems fine but not extreme
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 14:08 |
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NtotheTC posted:what is it about morph with ES clone that makes it so strong? I only caught the end of the game and playing around in demo mode it seems fine but not extreme Having two fissures is insane. But morph having the es aghs is ridiculous and he can output so much damage as well.
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 14:13 |
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Beast coast is playing like poo poo. K1 has made some very bad decisions with who to chrono, and more. Jstorm just has a really bad sieging lineup
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 14:24 |
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Goddamn SCCC just completely threw that game lol
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 15:15 |
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Yea that was not his finest hour
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 15:33 |
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i was v sad to see sccc just chain feed like 4x. esp after all the heroic axe plays.
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 16:10 |
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Is this still the same TI patch which was also the same patch for like the past 6 months. Shouldn't there be something new by now (except EG losing, that is not new)
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 16:12 |
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NtotheTC posted:what is it about morph with ES clone that makes it so strong? I only caught the end of the game and playing around in demo mode it seems fine but not extreme The issue is that with Morph+ES+Arghs you get a crazy uptime stun and bonkers initiation with Enchant Totem on a 3 second cool down. Plus I believe Morph keeps the 400% crit on his next attack, so he can one shot like 99999 damage with full agi morph and Enchant buff. It's super broken as that game proves. The trade off I suppose is that Morph needs 20/25 minutes to get to that point, but that barely matters right now.
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EorayMel posted:Is this still the same TI patch which was also the same patch for like the past 6 months. Patch is coming after this major Seriously though I can't wait fro this major to be over I mean this poo poo is just ridiculous: https://clips.twitch.tv/SparklingAffluentPigeonGivePLZ The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Nov 17, 2019 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Patch is coming after this major In Es' voice: IT WAS YOUR OWN drat FAULT
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 17:36 |
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Along w Morph nerfs, I'd love to see whatever it takes to have less Gyro in games.
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 17:50 |
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ES morphling, what a hero
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 21:47 |
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just lol if you missed the Purge pre-show
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# ? Nov 18, 2019 02:53 |
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The offlane Chen is a new one for me
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# ? Nov 18, 2019 03:53 |
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50k lead and they still cant push
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33 has like 9 Chen creeps and didnt move them the whole fight
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