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Cabbit posted:Did they gently caress up the aspect ratio somehow? nah he's probably just facing in a different direction, the fuzziness is what stands out to me
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Cabbit posted:Did they gently caress up the aspect ratio somehow? The guy just isn't in the exact same pose / angle. What the photo shows is the major loss of detail from video compression.
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need a comparison to the ps4 and xbone base because frankly comparing to the xbone x is too generous apparently
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Other games look better, the Tomb Raider shots look particularly good, but oof
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Soooo all the reviews are saying "Yep, it's 4k! But unavoidably viewed through a compressed feed so it looks kinda muddy." What the gently caress is even the point of the 4k then
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Soooo all the reviews are saying "Yep, it's 4k! But unavoidably viewed through a compressed feed so it looks kinda muddy." And also it's not even 4K, like it wouldn't take much to build a PC that matches this, and then beats it because it's local quality. I was ready for this to be bad but this is on a level I didn't expect.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:What the gently caress is even the point of the 4k then Because its hard to fit "792p upscale to 4k" on the side of a chromecast box?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Soooo all the reviews are saying "Yep, it's 4k! But unavoidably viewed through a compressed feed so it looks kinda muddy." I mean... That's how video compression has worked for 30 years.
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It would probably look better if it streamed at 1080p and then upscaled locally
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Soooo all the reviews are saying "Yep, it's 4k! But unavoidably viewed through a compressed feed so it looks kinda muddy." built in full screen anti-aliasing
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Also because they have to compress the video on-the-fly, the video quality suffers even more.
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ethanol posted:negative input lag turned out to be a real feature https://www.theguardian.com/games/2019/nov/18/google-stadia-review-gylt this review sucks and I dont believe them that there is no input lag on MK11. But this is one review that seems to think the lag isn't noticable???
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an actual dog posted:It would probably look better if it streamed at 1080p and then upscaled locally real-time compression is kinda unavoidably meh even when you throw extra bandwidth at it
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Here's the game price list:
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Soooo all the reviews are saying "Yep, it's 4k! But unavoidably viewed through a compressed feed so it looks kinda muddy." It's 4k at the server 
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I've got mail!  
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Tetrabor posted:It's 4k at the server
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univbee posted:I've got mail! bahahahaha
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American McGay posted:But it's not even, RDR2 is 1440 from the server. Apparently Destiny 2 is also locked at 1080p too?
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an actual dog posted:bahahahaha "For best performance, don't live with other people."
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apparently the controller scratches easily, so easily that even using the google claw grip will leave marks on it
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univbee posted:"For best performance, don't live with other people." I live alone, hardwire everything, have great internet, control what happens on my network like a loving freak. I would probably get the best possible experience with stadia. Instead, I'll use my local hardware. Who is this for??!?!
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Gerstmann quote: Stadia streaming from the cloud was a better experience than Steam streaming from his local PC over wifi which is "a shitshow". So that's something!Rotten Red Rod posted:Here's the game price list:  Tomb Raider was $3 on steam a week ago.
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an actual dog posted:Who is this for??!?! Sickly kids in hospital so the staff can throw the contaminated stadia equipment in the trash when they are cured or otherwise without having to pitch out a $400 console every time heaven gets a new angel?
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Combat Pretzel posted:Nevermind that there's apparently four cards in a Stadia rig, that have to share bandwidth on the CPU internal PCIe switch (there's only so much poo poo you can shovel over the Infinity Fabric) and also memory bandwidth (transferring data to the GPU and also running the game). I think the newest Epyc CPUs should be able to handle that reasonably well with 8 memory channels and 128 PCIe 4.0 lanes, but I don't know if Stadia is even running on those. Given how recently those came out and how little cache was reported for the Stadia CPUs earlier this year, it's likely something older and more prone to bandwidth issues.
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an actual dog posted:I live alone, hardwire everything, have great internet, control what happens on my network like a loving freak. I would probably get the best possible experience with stadia. Instead, I'll use my local hardware. Who is this for??!?! Mostly the same but in-home streaming with Nvidia still feels off. Like theres some unavoidable chunk of input lag right above the threshold of noticeability. Weird stuff you wouldnt expect to cause network hiccoughs will affect games, too. Theyre insanely sensitive to network conditions.
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I'm so happy the world is full of rubes. Why yes I paid ~~$200 dollars + $60 for a video game to be shunted onto my television at ersatz 4k
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Fallom posted:Mostly the same but in-home streaming with Nvidia still feels off. Like theres some unavoidable chunk of input lag right above the threshold of noticeability. google has a plan to send matthew mcconaughey to retrieve the FTL/anti-grav/ quantum network data so we can fix this
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Fallom posted:Mostly the same but in-home streaming with Nvidia still feels off. Like theres some unavoidable chunk of input lag right above the threshold of noticeability. I've played through a ton of games on my Shield. The only one I had a lot of trouble with was oddly enough, Songbird Symphony. It had a lot of hitting the button at the exact moment and it was just enough off to not work right. It's been fine for everything else. It's connected through powerline adapters because I'm too lazy to run lines in my house after doing it at work.
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So some quotes from the first 20 minutes Giant Bomb quick look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFpHPFLbCM It works, but it always looks like a compressed video. The input lag isn't horrible, but it is noticeable. Jeff compares it to playing on a "bad TV". Looks nice on a phone, works better than his in-home Steam streaming. They're still not really sure who it's for. Maybe someone who doesn't play a lot of games, but wants to, but doesn't want to pay for a console.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Here's the game price list: Big fan of the Stadia Pro DEALS on the service that currently contains only Pro users. What a savings!
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I love how "4k60" slowly descended to "1440p30" for Red Dead Redemption 2, with some added compression artifacts for good measure. Even before you get to the input lag (which is mildly more impressive than I expected but still present and noticeable for the vast majority of tech reviewers, who are also likely to have significantly better internet connections than average), that's just embarrassing.
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American McGay posted:But it's not even, RDR2 is 1440 from the server. at medium settings, according to digital foundry lmao
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Bofast posted:The 2080Ti struggles to run RDR2 at 4K 60 fps, so I think we can forget about the Vega GPUs in Stadia servers doing that reliably unless they turn down a number of settings. Yeah, when set to insane details. But consoles run RDR2 at less than low quality, the game works quite well even on very moderate hardware when you don't run it at high settings. Scott Forstall posted:at medium settings, according to digital foundry lmao This is still way better than current console can provide.
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sethsez posted:I love how "4k60" slowly descended to "1440p30" for Red Dead Redemption 2, with some added compression artifacts for good measure. Even before you get to the input lag (which is mildly more impressive than I expected but still present and noticeable for the vast majority of tech reviewers, who are also likely to have significantly better internet connections than average), that's just embarrassing. Yeah even if everything else about this is great (and who knows, if Google actually bucks the trend and sticks with this, it might be - the technology is fine, Google's marketing and the launch decisions are the main issues) I cannot ever stand input lag. I tolerate it in some games like Witcher 3 because the game is so good, but for a game like Destiny that needs quick reaction times? Or even worse, a game with already significant input lag like RDR2, making it worse? Yeah, no, hard pass for me. So far from what I'm hearing, it's a worse, uglier experience for every game you play on it. But it can be cheaper, if you don't already have a console and don't buy/play a lot of games.
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Lambert posted:Yeah, when set to insane details. But consoles run RDR2 at less than low quality, the game works quite well even on very moderate hardware when you don't run it at high settings. Xbox One X plays RDR2 at high/medium settings equivalents at buttery smooth native 4K 30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1iNSyvIPaY
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univbee posted:"For best performance, don't live with other people." Google's really banking on that dialup gaming nostalgia.
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