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just put the safehouse at some station that is obnoxiously remote (and that isn't already covered by someone else's), like Spiritualist. It's very handy to have at least one, and if you get lucky they are big Like generators
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emdash posted:just put the safehouse at some station that is obnoxiously remote (that isn't already covered by someone else's), like Spiritualist. It's very handy to have at least one, and if you get lucky they are big Like generators I haven't even seen that one yet but I'll consider that. I never really use fast travel since you can't take anything with you. You can take your backpack and battery pack and clothes and crystals and stuff but nothing that's in the pouches?
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I haven't even seen that one yet but I'll consider that. You get to keep your boots and exoskeleton too. I've done it a handful of times, mostly because crafting new equipment is so easy. I don't really mind not keeping everything.
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Nov 20, 2019 18:36
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I haven't even seen that one yet but I'll consider that. I used it for the first time when I got to Mountain Knot and was immediately sent back to South Knot for Mama and it's actually a pretty nice QoL feature. Sure you can't take anything, but that just means you need to spend a minute fabricating a quick set of gear at the other end. There's not a whole lot you've got on you that can't be replicated once you get there. If you've got minerals or lost cargo you need to take across the map, well, that's the point of the game, you've got to hoof em over there yourself. But if you just want to get from one place to another it's not bad at all.
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I don't get the logistics of the scene where (ch4/5) Fragile is being force marched through timefall to bring a nuke...…..somewhere else? It sounds like she made a choice between two cities getting nuked but I don't understand why what she did was the better choice Also big ups to Kojima for having the sliver of self-control required to not have that shady courier guy literally twirl a mustache while giggling and handing you a VERY DEFINITELY NOT A BOMB package. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I haven't even seen that one yet but I'll consider that. Sorry about spoiling it, whoops. It is really useful if you ever need to get all the way across the map and you don't care if you take anything with you, yeah. Intel&Sebastian posted:I don't get the logistics of the scene where (ch4/5) Fragile is being force marched through timefall to bring a nuke...…..somewhere else? It sounds like she made a choice between two cities getting nuked but I don't understand why what she did was the better choice IIRC the choice is between saving a second city from being nuked (one already happened) and keeping her youthful looks
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I don't get the logistics of the scene where (ch4/5) Fragile is being force marched through timefall to bring a nuke...…..somewhere else? It sounds like she made a choice between two cities getting nuked but I don't understand why what she did was the better choice She had a choice between jumping out to save herself and letting the nuke go off or carrying the nuke to the pit, saving everyone but loving herself up. This is the second time Higgs tried to get her to nuke a city. She caught on to what was happening this time and tried to stop it. Previously she delivered the bomb and destroyed one of the knot cities. That’s why people distrust Fragile Express. Romes128 fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I don't get the logistics of the scene where (ch4/5) Fragile is being force marched through timefall to bring a nuke...…..somewhere else? It sounds like she made a choice between two cities getting nuked but I don't understand why what she did was the better choice She chose to carry the nuke to the bottomless tar pit and get all hosed up from the timefall, saving the city, instead of using her teleport power to escape and save herself and leaving the city to get blown up by the nuke.
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Romes128 posted:She had a choice between jumping out to save herself and letting the nuke go off or carrying the nuke to the pit, saving everyone but loving herself up Ok so the city that she DID get nuked was a completely unrelated thing to that scene? She said something about another place where a bunch of people died but I can't recall exactly what was going on. Or have all the previous conversations about her and nuking cities been referencing this scene where she almost did, but didn't?
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emdash posted:Sorry about spoiling it, whoops. It is really useful if you ever need to get all the way across the map and you don't care if you take anything with you, yeah. This is what I figured after thinking about it for a while but I wasn't sure if it was right. Also big ups to Higgs for apparently attempting this same trick three times lmfao
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Ok so the city that she DID get nuked was a completely unrelated thing to that scene? She said something about another place where a bunch of people died but I can't recall exactly what was going on. Or have all the previous conversations about her and nuking cities been referencing this scene where she almost did, but didn't? I edited my post to include it. But yes. This was the second time.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Ok so the city that she DID get nuked was a completely unrelated thing to that scene? She said something about another place where a bunch of people died but I can't recall exactly what was going on. Or have all the previous conversations about her and nuking cities been referencing this scene where she almost did, but didn't? If you pay really close attention to the scenery in that cutscene you will notice that it occurs in the city ruins just north of South Knot. The place that is about 100 m away from the tar lake.
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I think it got missed a few pages back but can delivery bots get you to 5 stars with someone? If so do you still get the sticker as a reward from it? Also how long does it take for a highway to degrade and does it take the full amount of resources to rebuild it again? That one at South knot City/Mamas place is 100% in time fall 24/7 so there's no way it's going to last that long.
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The geography in this game is confusing. Is the main big map really supposed to be the entire central United States? Am I supposed to just suspend disbelief about that?
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Colonel Whitey posted:The geography in this game is confusing. Is the main big map really supposed to be the entire central United States? Am I supposed to just suspend disbelief about that? It's social commentary on how nobody there actually matters.
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Colonel Whitey posted:The geography in this game is confusing. Is the main big map really supposed to be the entire central United States? Am I supposed to just suspend disbelief about that? chirality
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Colonel Whitey posted:The geography in this game is confusing. Is the main big map really supposed to be the entire central United States? Am I supposed to just suspend disbelief about that? I think you're just not supposed to think too hard about it, or assume your experience is an "abbreviated" version of the actual trip. Funnily enough Horizon Zero Dawn did the same exact thing.
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I finally tried sending a delivery bot from SouthLake to Engineer or something and when it reported back that everything was destroyed I immediately thought of the hitchhiking robot that got destroyed in Philly.
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marktheando posted:Does anything happen if you don't piss?
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homeless snail posted:Sam gets a UTI and Deadman yells at you I really want this to be true.
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Colonel Whitey posted:The geography in this game is confusing. Is the main big map really supposed to be the entire central United States? Am I supposed to just suspend disbelief about that? this made me think about what if it was a full-scale US but Sam was like 150 feet tall or whatever, so the game wouldn't be insanely tedious pretty fun idea
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Colonel Whitey posted:The geography in this game is confusing. Is the main big map really supposed to be the entire central United States? Am I supposed to just suspend disbelief about that? Here’s a fun fact I noticed watching a let’s play last night. Although, the interviews referenced Manhattan and other real cities, the names of cities that Deadman gives in cutscenes are all the names of famous meteor impact craters.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I think you're just not supposed to think too hard about it, or assume your experience is an "abbreviated" version of the actual trip. Yeah it's really interesting because I feel like the rest of the game is spent, in very Kojima fashion, aggressively making all of your actions and gameplay very "literal" in a physical sense. Things that are allowed to just be understood and glossed over in other games get addressed. He tries to make the world and what you do very granular so there's not a lot of moments where you think "oh well the actual action of doing X is just represented by Y happening in the game" (like in another game if you had the option to take a shower your guy might just quickly hop in and out of a shower and we generally just agree ok that represents a shower, wherein DS Reedus does the whole thing and gets dried off in a cutscene). Your items are actual items you have to carry around, if you go to your private room on your own you get a cutscene of you going down there, if you do it while a vehicle is on the platform you get a cutscene where you see it going with you (where in another game it might just play the same "sam only" elevator cutscene while the vehicle disappears and you're left to assume it just got loaded, via game logic), etc etc. Even when it does happen that something is just "represented" in menus there's still a physical logic to it, you have to put the hover trolley on the ground before you can menu items from the truck to it, you can pick up items and walk them over to a delivery point or truck and they show up as loadable in the cargo menu. I'm sure if he had his way Kojima would have done away with the cargo menu and forced you to load everything by hand (or in the shower example if he had his way he would force you to watch Reedus strip down and then get dressed again). But the obvious giant exception to this is the US map. Your like 10 minute on-foot journey from Knot capital westward is actually Sam going from like NYC to Columbus Ohio and it's just supposed to be understood that this is representative. It's actually so against the philosophy of the rest of the game I half expected it to get explained via some time fuckery in a codec conversation or email to at least slightly bring it in line. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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DalaranJ posted:Here’s a fun fact I noticed watching a let’s play last night. Although, the interviews referenced Manhattan and other real cities, the names of cities that Deadman gives in cutscenes are all the names of famous meteor impact craters. I did google Vredefort and was pleasantly surprised about that being the case.
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Yeah like maybe the chirality in the air is compressing spacetime or some poo poo idk
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I also enjoy that we never have to connect Florida. gently caress Florida
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Colonel Whitey posted:I also enjoy that we never have to connect Florida. gently caress Florida  The decision to represent it all via like....Iceland/Alaskan looking naturescapes instead of anything that even slightly resembles the American area you're in is a really odd and cool choice. Like I can imagine they worked for a long time trying to make actual representations of areas and cities and at some point someone was like "the big remote mountainous landscapes we're making look a lot better and are more fun to play in" and someone else was like "ok lets just make the whole game that then" Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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emdash posted:I started playing on release night and was in the first 1-2% to every episode. Everything started crumbling in my game yesterday--the whole mountain region is covered in decayed structures now. It's pretty annoying I'm starting to believe your theory. After I went past episode 3, I started getting fewer and fewer likes per hour. It has to make sense otherwise you'd see safe houses and trucks in episode 2 but I don't think you ever do unless you come back in episode 3 or later. And this is why nobody sees zip lines until around the time the story gives them out, which would be episode 5. Yet another reason people should just do as much stuff in episode 3 and 5. That's where the real game is.
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Kin posted:I think it got missed a few pages back but can delivery bots get you to 5 stars with someone? You need to complete a delivery yourself to get the final star. Bots are good for scraping together some extra likes, but to actually progress locations you need to do deliveries yourself.
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I was wondering if this was possible but I didn’t want to carry all them ladders. https://youtu.be/D2b_fC947BQ
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Intel&Sebastian posted:
I doubt it ever got to that stage, iirc Kojima took a trip to a Iceland and listened to a bunch of Low Roar and wanted to create a carbon copy of that experience. But he also wanted to have it set in America and tell some bonkers story about reconnecting and ghosts so he went “porque no los dos”
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i quoted this earlier this week but gently caress it, it's still a lovely encapsulation of the actual american midwestSniperWoreConverse posted:I'm pretty sure a dude wrote a travel book 100 years ago and came to the conclusion that the land itself was blighted and evil, but wasn't sure if the people poisoned it or it poisoned them
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Oxxidation posted:i quoted this earlier this week but gently caress it, it's still a lovely encapsulation of the actual american midwest Wait, what is this? Who wrote this?
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marktheando posted:I really want this to be true.
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American McGay posted:You unlock enhanced (with blood) piss grenades. 1) I'm not 100% sure you're joking 2) If you are joking this would have been real if anyone had thought of it during development.
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Oxxidation posted:i quoted this earlier this week but gently caress it, it's still a lovely encapsulation of the actual american midwest Man I really want to know what that book was. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I haven't even seen that one yet but I'll consider that. If you have a really long distance to traverse and nothing much to do in between then there's almost no reason not to just fast travel. With there exception of chiralium, you should have more than enough resources to craft whatever you need at your destination. And since you bring your chiralium with you resources are no concern. You can refill all of your pouches at your destination because blood is infinite apparently.
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