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hostile apostle posted:You're correct, products have to be built and tested - and that takes time and people to do. Webpages don't spring up from the ground. Sometimes things have to be prioritized to make a launch date. ... how is making an app that only runs on certain phones easier than making a webpage that accomplishes the same thing, for everybody? And why did they have to cut so much that people are unsatisfied with the launch just to make an arbitrary date?
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Lambert posted:So basically, you have two options. Neither are fiber. One is bad, and the other you won't consider for brand loyalty options. Maybe I'm not making myself clear, but I'm not avoiding AT&T's "fiber" option due to brand loyalty, I'm avoiding it because the performance is worse than what I have via Cox. They claim "fiber" which is true from them to the Node, but since I live in an apartment that was converted from a condo built in the 70's the actual infrastructure between the Node and my unit doesn't support fiber speeds. This is pretty common, for a company to say fiber the the reality is you do not get anywhere near that speed. Cox is my best option sadly. Speaking of data caps, unless i have a Cable TV package they send nasty grams for going over the data cap (1 TB) - after I added the Tv/HBO a few years ago they completely stopped caring about me going 30-50% over the cap each month. I guess this is just how it is these days 
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Nov 22, 2019 18:17
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shadow puppet of a posted:Exactly, you gotta take your time and make sure they don't launch without ICQ and MSN functionality. You'd be a laughing stock othewise. You're literally mocking the functionality of some outsourced software Mozi posted:... how is making an app that only runs on certain phones easier than making a webpage that accomplishes the same thing, for everybody? by runs on certain phones you mean any phone thats 5 years old or younger? I can't speak for why they prioritized certain features over others - but no service launches every single feature day one.
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hostile apostle posted:You're correct, products have to be built and tested - and that takes time and people to do. Webpages don't spring up from the ground. Sometimes things have to be prioritized to make a launch date. And the result is a product that is cratering and getting overwhelmingly bad press and is going to have to spend months or years burning money and doing work to get back to a point they could have been at if they waited one loving week. Google is the stupidest company on Earth.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:18
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hostile apostle posted:You're literally mocking the functionality of some outsourced software It clearly outsourced itself without anyone on the team going "we need this functionality from 1998", yes.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:21
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gschmidl posted:It clearly outsourced itself without anyone on the team going "we need this functionality from 1998", yes. Sorry that the presence of a text box hurt you so much, maybe you can ask Google to cover the cost of your therapy
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Nov 22, 2019 18:22
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Hostile, I remember when my first product launched and I felt the need to defend it everywhere. I get that you work for stadia in some way and are passionate about the launch. You feel personally attacked because the thing you had a part in making is a giant pile of turds, but jesus loving christ give it a rest.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:23
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hostile apostle posted:Sorry that the presence of a text box hurt you so much, maybe you can ask Google to cover the cost of your therapy Sorry about it implying this poo poo was phoned in from the start
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Nov 22, 2019 18:23
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Caring about a ICQ field on a profile page is stupid and dumb. Caring about needing a phone with the latest version of android installed to setup your video game streaming service that works through the browser on your computer is valid and rational.
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Because honestly why would the development of a social gaming platform involve the design of a player profile system that isn't borrowed from vBulletin circa 1996
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American McGay posted:Caring about a ICQ field on a profile page is stupid and dumb. I don't care about it, I just find it funny
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hostile apostle posted:You're literally mocking the functionality of some outsourced software
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Nov 22, 2019 18:30
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Shumagorath posted:I might have remembered that wrong and confused it with not using LODs, but distinctly recall "don't do that surface texture with normal maps. It must be POLYGONS!" You may be getting mixed up with how the technique works. Essentially you make a simple model, but slap some tiling metals on it that don't need uv's. Then you take small pieces of geometry that have normal map details on - chamfers, gradiants, circles, techy gubbins etc and place that geometry just over the surface of the main model. You then project those normal map details onto the base mesh. It's fast as hell, super efficient and for anything scifi/hard surface, it's a godsend. Very common in a lot of games moving forwards. I think it was first used on sunset overdrive, of all things. This is a good overview: https://youtu.be/66IGMnPgEW0 Back to stadia....
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Right, and I remember reading Star Citizen is not doing that but (at least officially) doing everything with more, tiny triangles and the game lighting engine. Anyway, more for the SC thread.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:40
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hostile apostle posted:You're literally mocking the functionality of some outsourced software Hey Maybe they could have also outsourced a web store / portal... By runs on certain phones you mean like. Only pixel phones... Also yes lots of services launch with the minimum advertised features. You're the worst stedia apologist ever.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:43
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hostile apostle posted:It has nothing to do with the ability to activate on web, but rather what the user does after activation. For now there is no store so how do you get games once you activate? It's a trick question because Stadia has no gaems
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Nov 22, 2019 18:48
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Shumagorath posted:Right, and I remember reading Star Citizen is not doing that but (at least officially) doing everything with more, tiny triangles and the game lighting engine. Anyway, more for the SC thread. Yeah, Chris didn't want to "fake" anything so they were using high poly count models as regular game assets for a long time and it's part of the reason the game used to run at 15 fps on high end hardware but they walked that back awhile ago.
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shadow puppet of a posted:Exactly, you gotta take your time and make sure they don't launch without ICQ and MSN functionality. You'd be a laughing stock othewise. 
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tater_salad posted:Hey Maybe they could have also outsourced a web store / portal... I was on the fence up until a few days ago but I'm now positive that he's a Google employee who worked on this project and it's why he's so personally invested in it.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:54
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I was mostly joking about that until he literally changed his avatar to the Stadia logo, holy piss
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Nov 22, 2019 18:55
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There are more active users in this thread than playing free Destiny 2 on Stadia.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:57
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I was mostly joking about that until he literally changed his avatar to the Stadia logo, holy piss  Pretty sure someone else bought that for him.
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univbee posted:
Someone bought him a brown Stadia logo with stink lines. It was that for a short time, then changed to just a Stadia logo, presumably by him. His current avatar is my doing, on a whim.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I was mostly joking about that until he literally changed his avatar to the Stadia logo, holy piss The post with like 7 unboxing videos and shouting liar over and over at Steve and then completely refusing to engage with me after being confronted with how weird that was did it for me. The logo was just the icing on the cake.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:59
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hostile apostle posted:It has nothing to do with the ability to activate on web, but rather what the user does after activation. For now there is no store so how do you get games once you activate? Why...why would you launch a sales product without a store? Isn't that a bit like launching an airplane without doors? What's the point? Sure it'll work but...why?
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UnknownTarget posted:Why...why would you launch a sales product without a store? Wait til you see what you need to do to purchase in-game content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFpHPFLbCM&t=3697s Also you need 2 phones to play Just Dance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFpHPFLbCM&t=1941s Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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UnknownTarget posted:Why...why would you launch a sales product without a store?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Wait til you see what you need to do to purchase in-game content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFpHPFLbCM&t=3697s No hold on WHAT
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hostile apostle posted:You don't need it to log in. It is used once for the set up because there is no web store at launch, though there should be and I'm sure this is temporary at launch. It wouldn't make sense to allow activation on web and then get put into a setting where you can't buy anything to then play. Doesn't really sound like a launch then does it.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Wait til you see what you need to do to purchase in-game content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFpHPFLbCM&t=3697s 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6y4MnlFLNE
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hostile apostle posted:You're correct, products have to be built and tested - and that takes time and people to do. Webpages don't spring up from the ground. Sometimes things have to be prioritized to make a launch date. They didn't prioritize effectively, nor did they take the time to push back their launch until they had everything they needed to launch. People can accept a delay, but getting a product out the door just to meet a deadline, quality be damned, that's a good way to be out of a job. Customers don't care if you hand them something that is unfinished about why, unless it is specifically a beta. And keep in mind, there's a difference between iteration and unfinished. Okay - not being able to share game content with YouTube - I can accept that coming at a later point. Not being able to buy games on the PC, that's unfinished. And given the size of Google, don't you think they could have borrowed people to help them with the store front for PCs?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Wait til you see what you need to do to purchase in-game content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFpHPFLbCM&t=3697s The Just Dance second phone requirement is truly beautiful. It doesn't have the scope of incompetence that the link and code to buy in game content does, but it is absolutely insane. Every single problem I've seen with Stadia points to just colossal mismanagement of the service/project. It's clear that each team got their directive, and did it to the best of their ability in the time given (besides maybe the message board.) But it's way more clear that it was not designed or scheduled out at all.
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hostile apostle posted:Count me as the idiot who spend $129 on a $70 chromecast ultra and a $70 controller to play RDR2 (which I have not played yet) in actual 4K 60fps and not some upscaled fake 4k on a $350 PS4 Pro which I don't have.
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Cemetry Gator posted:but getting a product out the door just to meet a deadline, quality be damned, that's a good way to be out of a job. uh it's also a great way to establish yourself as a scrum master
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Wait til you see what you need to do to purchase in-game content: You can't activate it in-browser, it's just not done. This is normal, they concentrated on the app. You gotta buy IAP in the browser, the phone app's just not done. This is normal, they concentrated on the browser. 
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Pretty sure the reviewer made a typo in typing in that chromecast (not browser, not app) in-game purchase link, the link def works for anyone even if you're not signed in: http://g.co/stadia/buy
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