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Ishamael posted:This is awesome. If you have any pics it would be awesome to see some. Unfortunately I have a funeral this morning in the Bronx for my spouse's uncle, so I'll probably post some pictures tonight. We didn't take any in the hotel because we felt that would be intrusive and disrespectful. Federico Castelluccio is such a loving ham, he made sure he said hello to as many people as he possibly could. We kept running into Tony Cucci and Armen Garo (Fat Dom and Coco) to the point that they asked us to have a drink with them in the Bad Bing set that actually acted as one of the bars and had pole dancers. Katherine Narducci (Charmaine) is an absolute sweetheart and everyone loves her. Dominic Chianese was moved to the point of tears several times at the amount of people there that wanted to meet with him, as his line was the longest of anyone's. Honestly, the only two people we had an issue with was Jason Cerbone (Jackie Jr.) who obviously didn't want to be there, and Vincent Pastore (Pussy) being short with anyone that didn't want to buy anything off the mountain of his merchandise he had in front of him.
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codo27 posted:. Why did I remember Ade and FBI chick hooking up? You and those fuckin' videos!
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Season 5, Episode 13 - All Due RespectTony Soprano posted:I painted myself into a corner here, and I don't see a way out. Johnny Sack, Phil Leotardo and Jimmy Petrille go to the morgue to pick up Billy's body, which has been released at last by the forensic examiners. Jimmy suggests gently to Phil that he not look at the body until the funeral director has had a chance to touch up his body for the service, but Phil had promised his mother he would look at the REAL Billy before any pancake make-up was applied. He gently cups the chin of the corpse after they open the body bag, staring down at the dead body of his beloved younger brother (himself an eager participant in at least one murder) before demanding to know from Johnny how much longer he has to wait for justice. Tony Soprano is never going to give up "that animal Blundetto" on his own and they both know it. Johnny, who has his own reasons for wanting Tony B dead, glares and offers an implied warning in how he says Phil's name: both not to speak about this in "public", but also not to push his Boss to move at anything other than his own pace. At the abandoned farmhouse, Tony B smokes and stares out the window as a girl dresses behind him. Either a prostitute or just a girl he picked up at the bar (he pays her money, but maybe it's just for a cab ride back?), he's told her he's working as the caretaker for the place temporarily until his cousin makes arrangements for him to travel to Italy via Canada. She's impressed at him having a cousin who would do this (he's bullshitting, Tony has made no such arrangement for him, he doesn't even know that Tony knows where he is), eagerly recommending he make the trip soon. As she leaves the house and Blundetto clambers into his sleeping bag on the bare floor, she calls out a thank you for the massage he gave to fix her toe pain. It's an unwelcome reminder of what could have been if he'd managed to control his temper and bad habits. Instead he took the "easy" option and now he sleeps along in the abandoned remains of what was once a treasured childhood memory. Joanne Moltisanti is leaving the house in the morning when she spots two men approaching up the path, one with a cane. It's Phil Leotardo and some muscle, and with a big beaming smile he explains they are friends of her son. Inside, Christopher hears the voices and peeks through the window, as Phil openly proclaims they're from Alcoholics Anonymous. Christopher slips a gun from his jacket as his mother lies that he isn't there and his car is only outside because he left it there before a trip to California or Vegas. But Phil wants more info, and when he can see he isn't going to get it, he gets nasty, grabbing her arm and demanding she tell him where he is or he'll ram her Discman "up your box". She pulls away and flees down the path, the muscle desperately trying to calm Phil down as he reminds him she is Christopher's mother and this kind of behavior is unacceptable even for a Made guy. Phil does seem to realize he has pushed things too far and drops his head into his hand, while inside the house the still unseen Christopher is left to consider that Phil is coming after him to force Tony to hand over Tony B... or worse, to take out Christopher as a consolation prize.   At the Soprano home, Tony is fixing a leak under the door near the kitchen and silently judging AJ happily chatting to his friend on the phone. Carmela comes through and warns AJ to get to school, and is surprised to see Tony up early, noting he's been having trouble sleeping. But she is impressed he's helping out at the house (it was one of the things she complained about him not doing before) while he is disgruntled that AJ didn't fix it like he told him to while he was living at Livia's. They've already settled back into a comfortable pattern, turning to their favorite subject of conversation: the problem with AJ. Tony is concerned he spends all his time on the phone and Carmela agrees, saying she is worried he won't be able to make it into East Stroudsburg State (it seems Arizona is a long forgotten dream) if he doesn't spend less time socializing and more time studying. Tony moves to the sink and starts clearing some of the dishes (!), and looking out the window he notices Sal Vitro and his son working to clean the backyard. He points out how hard-working Sal's son is, clearly appreciative of the boy's work ethic, completely oblivious to the fact Sal's son is working with him because he had to drop out of college to keep the business afloat when Feech beat up his dad... oh yeah, and that they're doing this job for free as part of the arrangement that "saved" them. Carmela agrees that poverty is a great motivator, but doesn't accept that it was their fault for spoiling AJ: after all, Meadow had all the same benefits and she worked out great. Tony comments that maybe she got that from Carmela while AJ got his attitude from Tony, but Carmela doesn't let him get away with that, saying he's her son too: now that they're back together, she's keen to present a united front and meet him halfway as much as possible, especially while he's helping out around the house and taking an interest in their son's development, including making an appointment with AJ's football coach to see how their boy is doing. Hugh arrives with the architect to show Carmela the plans for her spec house, and she eagerly calls Meadow (there doing laundry, of course) to come take a look. They all gather around the table apart from AJ, a family together again. Christopher returns to his apartment, Adriana's remaining items scattered about the floor from when he hastily packed her things and dumped them. He goes through the bedside drawer and collects her jewellery, answering the ringing phone when he sees the call is coming from Tony Soprano. Unfortunately, that just means it is coming from Tony's house, and it is Carmela on the other end of the line. She asks her cousin if Adriana is there, wanting to know what is going on with the wedding since she heard no decision had been made a dish patterns for the reception yet. Caught out unexpectedly, Christopher considers the best course of action and decides to go with a semblance of the truth, explaining that they've broken up. Carmela is shocked, and of course immediately wants to know why, what happened? He has to give some kind of answer so he plays the victim, saying she walked out on him, she broke his heart in fact! Carmela asked if she left a number and he says no, then goes on to actually complain that she walked out on her responsibilities at Crazy Horse too. He is painting a picture of himself as the wronged party, of Adriana as the uncaring, thoughtless and irresponsible person who ruined everything. Upset, Carmela offers what solace she can by telling him there are plenty of fish in the sea, and he thanks her before hanging up. He finishes throwing the last of what he needs to be rid off into a bad, then takes one last look around the apartment he shared with her for so long before heading out the door.   Raymond Curto meets with FBI Agent Grasso in Grasso's car in a parking lot, handing over a recording of Tony and Vito discussing the bus-station project. Grasso takes it and then "casually" asks if he's heard anything about Adriana, since they'd heard that she had taken off or maybe gotten "clipped". Curto is confused, why would anybody kill Adriana? Grasso shrugs and pretends to be taking a stab in the dark, maybe she was stepping out with somebody else? Curto though has only heard that she took off and he clearly doesn't have any particular great interest in what is basically gossip. Maybe she left him because Christopher is a drug addict? Belatedly he remembers he isn't sure if he already gave them that little tidbit, and Grasso assures him he has. Curto leaves, telling Grasso to say hi to "Ike and the guys" for him, treating his status as an informant like it's just another normal part of his everyday life. Grasso is left with no better sense though on if Adriana was actually killed, though the FBI has obviously already decided she was. Curto has somewhere to be anywhere... a birthday dinner with all the higher-ups in the Soprano Family! It's unclear if he is recording anything or even if Grasso has any idea he was going to a function like this. He's the guest of honor though, it's a big enough deal that Larry Boy Barese has broken the terms of his house arrest (following the Junior Soprano mistrial) to come along. Silvio informs them Tony has been held up so they get started without him, Larry Boy doing the honors to make the big speech since he's the Captain of the biggest crew in the family, a role that Albert had been filled the last 3 years. All the Captains are present apart from Christopher, and Hesh is there as well, and they raise a toast to Raymond. They all settle down and Hesh explains to Larry Boy that Christopher isn't there because he's had to go into hiding while Phil Leotardo is on the warpath trying to find Tony Blundetto. Bobby notes that he's a little worried himself given he is Tony's brother-in-law, but Carlo clearly finds the idea of New York going after Bobby laughable. Paulie however believes HE will be the target, after all who has known Tony longer or is closer to him (Silvio!)? Regardless, Bobby notes correctly that Johnny Sack is probably gonna put the financial squeeze on ALL of them, and Vito adds that with "all due respect" while he's willing to die for a good cause, dying because Tony is protecting his cousin is "bullshit". Tony himself arrives and Raymond loudly calls out a greeting to warn the others to be quiet. Tony eyes everybody up, clearly picking from their sudden quiet that something was being said they didn't want him to hear. He hugs Raymond and hands over gifts of cigars and an old wine from Avellino he labels with the Soprano name. Vito declares that wine will be a "treasure" and Tony's face falls, clearly picking up that Vito is kissing his rear end, but he lets it pass, gleefully greeting Larry Boy who jokes that he isn't scared of the FBI and talking up the size of his balls. Tony laughs along with everybody else, but then heads to the foot of the table where he explains he can't stay. They're all upset, but he has a meeting he has to attend, but he came to pay his respects to Raymond as well as pass on an important message. He admits that Tony B went into business for himself and they all know it and that it was wrong, there is no excuse. The Captains exchange pleased looks, it sounds like Tony is building up to telling them he's giving up his cousin (and thus the money will start flowing again), but what he has to say next kills that idea. Because "irregardless" of all that, when Tony offered up his cousin he learned that they planned to torture him mercilessly. He won't allow that, assuring them that he is protecting his cousin in the same way he would protect ANY of them in the same circumstances. The Captains take this in silence, the obvious shared thought that they don't particularly give a poo poo if Tony Blundetto gets tortured. Sure they all liked him, but he's costing them money now so gently caress him. But Tony has said his piece, and reminds them that he wants them to circle the wagons and help out Christopher while he is in hiding from Phil. He apologizes to Raymond again for not being able to stay, giving him a hug before leaving. That leaves everybody else to enjoy the party, though to say the buzz has been harshed is an understatement.  Tony returns home, apparently there was no meeting and he just made an excuse so he could go home. Carmela is happy to see him there, she had expected him to be out late and this is another example for her that he's more engaged and aware of his role as a husband/father than in the past. She's been reviewing decorating ideas for the spec house but lets him know there is chicken parmesan he can have for dinner if he likes. As he pulls it out of the fridge though she asks if Christopher was there, and he considers for a moment before deciding to just go with the truth, saying he wasn't. He chose wisely, as she tells him that Christopher and Adriana broke up and he gets to pretend he didn't know, had he said Christopher was there and seemed fine it would have probably raised some red flags. Tony takes the chance from pretending he had no idea to say it isn't healthy for Christopher to keep his feelings bottled up like this, and it's probably why he developed a chemical dependency in the first place. AJ arrives in the house, happily chatting on the phone as always, going straight up the steps while doing curls with a weight, ignoring his recently reconciled parents entirely. Tony pops the chicken parmesan into the microwave as Carmela recalls the movie night when Adriana ran away crying, and suggests maybe Adriana was cheating on Christopher? Tony isn't going to turn down this excuse offered up on a silver platter and nods in agreement, adding that it just goes to show you never can tell with some people, happy for his wife to have decided Adriana was the person to blame. Later Tony settles onto the couch with ice cream to watch the History Channel, which is doing a special on Rommel that lauds his leadership and the boundless faith his men had in him. Carmela joins him on the couch, leaning against his shoulder momentarily and drinking in the atmosphere before saying how much she still loves this old house, and how she hopes she can do half so well with her "stupid project". Tony smiles and pats her hand encouragingly, but adds nothing else, and she asks him with what seems to be genuine concern if he actually wanted to be alone. He assures her he didn't, but she decides to leave anyway, kissing his cheek and heading upstairs when she climbs into bed and pores lovingly over the blueprints for the spec-house. As she gazes happily at a his & hers dressing room, her newly returned husband remains downstairs eating ice-cream and fixated on Rommel and the notion he had a sixth sense for sizing up a situation and figuring out the best strategy in the moment. Clearly it is a gift that Tony wishes he had (or believes he has) himself, when he hadn't even managed to figure out that Carmela wanted some quality time together. The next day Christopher, in sunglasses and a big hat, meets with Silvio in the parking lot of a diner where Silvio is handing over $1500 to help keep him going while he's in hiding. Benny is driving Christopher about, and notes that he's a little worried himself since he used to be Tony's driver, a fact that clearly doesn't move Silvio to any great fears. What Silvio DOESN'T like is hearing Christopher complain about how Tony shows too much favoritism to Tony B, bitching that he can't even get down to a fence to sell off some jewellery (Adriana's jewellery, it's his murdered fiance's jewellery he is complaining about not being able to fence). Very quietly, very dangerously, Silvio asks him if he needs to get into specifics about all the things that Tony has done for Christopher himself? Chastened, Christopher doesn't answer, and Silvio simply walks away.   That night at the Bada Bing, Tony is sitting in the back smoking a cigar when Silvio shows up, surprising him he thought he'd gone home. Silvio explains that a girl called Trisha's father just died, so he thought he'd give her a call. He starts going through his Rolodex, but finally pauses to admit that he's been hanging around on purpose wanting to talk to Tony. So what about? He starts by noting he's been his consigliere for many years, but Tony cuts him off, annoyed at the "loving preamble" and demanding he just say what is on his mind. So Silvio does. The others are upset, not just the young guys but old soldiers who have been around for years, some since Tony first got starts, some going back to Johnny Boy Soprano himself. Tony immediately jumps to the conclusion that Paulie is the problem but Silvio isn't gonna mention any names. Tony reminds Silvio that if they hand over Tony B, then they'll forever be kowtowing to New York having proved they have no spine. Silvio though, with "all due respect" points out that Tony was willing to hand over Tony B a week ago so that's not the real issue. The problem is that Tony has a problem with authority, he doesn't want to eat Johnny Sack's poo poo, and telling the Boss of the Lupertazzi Family to go gently caress himself is not exactly appropriate. Tony is pissed to hear this but Silvio quickly admits that this attitude is part of what has made him such an effective leader in the past, but pride is his weakness. Tony wheels his chair over to Silvio and quietly tells him that with "all due respect" he has no idea what the pressure of being the #1 guy is. Every single decision he makes affects every single facet of everything they do as a Family, and the pressure is almost too much to bear, especially as he has to do it all alone. But the fact is, this is the course of action HE has chosen and that is the end of the story: he's "sad" that those who aren't with him aren't with him, but he will deal with them "in time". With that said he leans back and pretends indifference, smoking his cigar and ignoring Silvio asking if he wants anything else from him before he leaves. Maintaining his own dignity, knowing he's down the job of a consigliere by telling Tony this, he leaves without another word. Tony is left behind, acting like he's above it all, smoking his cigar, failing entirely to be the Rommel he likes to think he is. At Crazy Horse where Thursday is still Ladies Nite, Benny sits at the bar eating, the place packed and seemingly running smoothly in spite of Adriana's absence. But Benny spots a familiar figure in the crowd, slipping on his glasses to be sure. Yes, among the young and fit patrons is a man with a cane: Phil Leotardo. Quickly slipping out to the parking lot, Benny gets into his car and prepares to drive away, but a knock at the window gets his attention. Turning, he sees Phil has spotted him and is standing outside the car, waving happily. He opens the door and beams down, noting that he was sure he recognizes him as the kid that drove for Tony. Caught between fear but the knowledge he can't disrespect Phil by ignoring him (like Phil did to Tony), Benny greets him back but apologetically explains he has to get to the hospital... about the worst thing he could have said. "That's up to you" smiles Phil, before demanding to know where "your Boss' friend is". Benny asks what friend and that's as much phony politeness Phil is capable of, as he grabs Benny by the lapels and demands to know. The muscle with him races around to the other side of the car as a desperate Benny tries to start his car, hitting the accelerator and smashing straight into the bollard in front of him. Struggling to fight off the guys trying to haul him out of the car, he attempts to put the car in reverse. But the numbers are too much, they haul him out and Phil beats on him with his cane demanding to know where Blundetto is. Benny doesn't know, which is the truth, but Phil's true desire is to lash out so he just keeps beating on him as the nervous muscle look around and spot some club patrons entering the parking lot. Phil looks down at Benny's battered, bleeding body and declares that this at least is a start. Tony goes to the hospital, where Vito, Eugene and Dante Greco are gathered around the bed. Pausing at the threshold to gather himself, Tony approaches the bed and winces at the sight of Benny's swollen face. He has a fractured skull, but he has been talking at a little at least. Forcing a smile, Tony assures Benny that all his medical costs will be taken care of through the Plumbers' Union health plan. Trying to put a positive spin on things, he tells him he thinks Benny is getting a little too old to be going around beating deadbeats up and maybe it is time he started getting his own customers. Benny can barely comprehend what is being said though, leaving Tony at a loss as how to manage this despite his earlier big talk towards Silvio. He asks the others where Larry Boy is, since he was the one who called to let Tony know what happened and said he would meet him there. He's Benny's Godfather but Vito explains he isn't coming, and Eugene adds "house arrest" as an explanation. It turns out that Larry Boy's "balls" only stretch so far as expensive dinners as opposed to being at the bedside of his severely beaten Godson.   Tony leaves, and Vito and Eugene share their frustrations. Eugene has a different take than Vito though, he agrees that Tony isn't given them adequate direction, but what he wants is permission to cross the bridge and attack people on the Lupertazzi side. Vito cuts him right off on that though, he's a firm believer in the bullshit rules they all follow when the money is right: Blundetto killed the brother of a captain, that's what caused all this trouble. If Tony was to order them to strike back at Phil for seeking "justice", then Vito would sooner take out Tony himself for the breach of protocol. Tony is feeling unsure of his position now but can't exactly go to Silvio for advice without admitting he should have listened to his advice. But luckily he's been asked to visit the one person who not only can offer potentially sound advice but has equal rank to Tony even if only on a technical level: Junior Soprano. He enters Junior's kitchen as he putting in a telephone order for a fruit basket, which Tony assumes is for Benny until Junior explains the reason he called him over. The fruit basket is actually for his lawyer Mel who just had a stroke. Tony is shocked, but then pleased when a grinning Junior explains the upside: with his lawyer suffering a medical condition, it's possible he can get his retrial delayed by at least a year. Tony shares in his Uncle's pleasure, but then turns to the grimmer side of things regarding the situation with Johnny Sack and Phil Leotardo. Junior notes that Bobby gave him a little bit of information on it, but only seems truly interested when Tony mentions Junior is probably losing a little money because of it. How much!?! Tony tells him to speak to Bobby about that, but for now he is looking for advice on how to deal with the situation. He explains how he's worried the next person they target may be killed rather than just beaten, but how can he give up his cousin? Junior stares stone-faced, seemingly considering... and then asks with concern if he gave the delivery company Mel's home or office address, the fruit will rot if it goes to the wrong place! Confused, slightly agitated, Tony demands Junior's full attention and points out what he could never admit to Silvio or the others: he backed himself into a corner and can't see a way out. Junior considers and points out the guy who was killed wasn't Made, and Tony seems confused as to what his point is (Made or not, it was a Captain's brother). Junior smirks, clearly feeling he has an angle, and clarifies, the kid who was killed... Phil's son, right? Too late, Tony realizes that even with his medication Junior's dementia is playing up today, he's not entirely all there. Not wanting to make a point of it, Tony tells Junior not to worry about it, and Junior - sensing something is off - apologizes for being put out by all the news. But having said that, he suddenly sparks up again and instructs Tony to tell Phil. Tell him what? Tony looks hopeful, maybe Junior has come back to himself again. But no, whatever it was is already gone, and Junior is half-concerned/half-suspicious as he tries to recall exactly what they were talking about while trying to (unsuccessfully) hide from Tony that he's confused. Tony, not unkindly, tells him he has to go, and Junior asks if he wanted to confer with him, suggesting he may have already forgotten the conversation just had. Tony assures him it is fine, reminds him to make sure he eats lunch, and then leaves through the basement. Not before pausing to stare at his Uncle for a moment though, brought low by his own mind turning against him, the cruelest of fates. He escaped jail, his retrial has been delayed, but he's a prisoner not only in his own home but in his own mind.  Larry Boy Barese couldn't visit his Godson in hospital, but it seems he can go out to lunch with Carlo and Bobby at a cafe. Larry Boy jokes that Tony sent the wrong ex-con to jail when he got rid of Feech, while Carlo is lamenting losing out on the shipment of provolone. Bobby points out that Tony may not even know where Blundetto is, but Larry Boy waves that off, positive that of course Tony does (he does). He tells them not to worry about Christopher either, one thing he has always noticed is that Tony Soprano is very good at keeping his family out of harm's way.... it's the rest of them that have to worry. In therapy, Tony tells Melfi things are good at home, but is clearly distracted and checks his watch. But his time isn't up yet, so he tells her briefly and in broad strokes about his dream of the last two weeks, including how his coach back then encouraged him and told him he was special. He shifts into how he met with AJ's coach recently to try and find out why the coach was starting another player over AJ recently. The reason, he explains to Melfi, is down to AJ concentrating more on his academic studies because he's so determined to get into a good school, a lie so massive it is a shock he doesn't explode. Melfi asks how things are elsewhere, such as with his cousin? Tony admits things there aren't so good, but won't give her any more information than that. Frustrated, she points out that she can't help him if so many of the things that are negatively impacting his life are things they're unable to discuss. That frustrates Tony too, since they're genuinely things he CAN'T talk about, and she throws her hands up in a gesture that must surely remind him of Livia. He complains that he really can't talk about them, but his cousin has put him into a lot of trouble and what makes it worse is that he cares so much about him. THAT at least Melfi knows they have talked about, and she reminds him that they spent a long time getting him to admit/realize that most of his feelings of obligation towards his cousin were based on guilt and shame. She pushes him, asking if he remembers and cares, refusing to let him go back to square one and believe the lies he tells himself. This upsets him, but she pushes on, noting the situation actually parallels with the one with his son. Showing she knows him better than he thinks, she guesses that what the coach REALLY told him that upset him, or rather what he didn't tell him: that AJ was special and had promise, just like Coach Molinaro told Tony when he was AJ's age. Since they can't go into specifics, she tells him that the truly important thing is that no matter what Tony decides about either his son or his cousin, he has to own his own decision. Not retreat into sentimentality or comfortable lies: whatever he does, it's a choice he will have consciously made. That hits Tony hard, and while he told Junior he couldn't see a way out, now he admits something he would normally never allow anybody else to hear him say: the situation is his own fault, and all his decisions were wrong. He's talking about Blundetto, but there is a suggestion that he's started to believe that he's screwed up in how he raised AJ as well, regardless of what Carmela told him earlier. Surprisingly, AJ is actually being fairly successful. Hosting a house party, he's got Patrick charging 5 bucks and handing out plastic cups to high school students to drink from the keg they purchased. He and Devin stand around watching people having a good time, but AJ notices a group gathered around the keg and doesn't recognize them, but they're occupying prime real estate and hogging the keg so he makes the decision to have them removed. Patrick sends back the message that some people have come in with "bogus" cups, bypassing the $5 entrance fee, so AJ and Matt approach them and demand to see their cups, complaining that this isn't like downloading music, the beer is their property and they're ripping them off! Matt dumps out the cup of one of them, which kicks off a fight. At first AJ steps back in alarm, but as the scuffle continues and Matt seems to be getting the upper hand, AJ finds himself enjoying watching the fight, violence in proximity but still safe and detached.  
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Early morning at the still closed Bada Bing, Tony sits in the back considering Melfi's advice to own his decision. An empty glass besides him indicates he's had at least one drink to work up the courage to do what he needs to do. Picking up the phone, he calls Johnny Sack, who is eating breakfast at home. Johnny answers but Tony can't bring himself to speak, putting the receiver down on the desk as Johnny repeatedly says,"Hello?", until finally Tony hangs up. So Tony does what he always does, he finds a distraction to take out his anger on. In this case it's Paulie, as he shows up hammering on his door as Paulie is running a hand-steamer over his suit jacket. Paulie lets him in, Tony wanting to have it out, saying he heard Paulie has some beefs, sarcastically asking if he wants to call everybody. But the little script in his head goes out the window when he spots the painting of Pie-O-My and Tony on the wall, leaving him bewildered... what the gently caress? Paulie explains the picture moved him, he rescued it from the flames because he considered it an honor to hang it on his wall. Tony is as furious as he is confused though, he thought the painting was long since destroyed, he hates being reminded of the hose AND it has been touched up so Tony is wearing a stupid hat and costume? To his surprise though, Paulie's reaction is to shamefacedly hang his head and pathetically mumble that he didn't think it would be an issue since Tony never comes around anymore. His own anger undercut momentarily, unsure if Paulie's sadness is genuine or a put-on, he reminds him he doesn't come around because the FBI are watching ALL their houses. Looking back at the painting triggers his anger again though and he demands to know if Paulie gets a good laugh out of the costume he has put Tony in. Paulie assures him it was no joke, he spent a lot of money to get the retouching done. When Tony asks WHY, Paulie can't admit it was because Tony's unblinking eternal gaze was freaking him out since he was working with Johnny Sack at the time, so he explains partly it was to fix fire damage but the rest was to make the painting more "traditional" to go with the rest of the decor in his place. Plus it captures what Tony is more about. Tony, ping-ponging between rage and utter confusion, asks if he thinks of Tony as a "goddamn lawn jockey", but Paulie feels on safer, rear end-kissing ground now and explains it is a General. Not a specific one, he assures Tony when he demands to know, but it IS Tony. Tony slowly approaches the painting, taking a closer look, the entire satisfying explosion of temper he'd been planning on his way over completely upended now. He looks closer and closer at the painting, and then he can't take it anymore and rips it off the wall, storming out Paulie's house with it tucked under his arm. He drives to a nearby line of shops and dumps it into the dumpster, stepping in spoiled eggs as he does. Pissed, confused, still unable to come to a decision over how to get himself out of this mess, he takes one last look at the photo. There he is, standing next to Pie-O-My, General Soprano. Standing tall, smile beaming confidence, a sabre on his hip, a hand on his sash. Confident, secure, a leader, a decision-maker. Rommel. All the things Tony has finally realized he is not. He stares at the painting and he finally, irrevocably comes to his final decision.   Glad Tidings by Van Morrison plays as Tony Blundetto drives back to Uncle Pat's farm, having picked up groceries. He drives deep into the farm and parks his car in the barn where it can't be seen, stepping out with the groceries but with a gun in his belt just in case. Walking back to the house, he steps up onto the verandah and starts to open the door when he hears the creak of a floorboard. Turning, he sees his cousin and best friend Tony Soprano step around the corner... with a shotgun. Tony shoots without a moment's hesitation, the blast taking Blundetto off of his feet crashing into the ground. Tony, wearing latex gloves approaches and kneels down over the corpse of his beloved cousin, whose brains have been blown out, the shot coming so fast that he still has an expression of confused surprise on his face, the last expression his face will ever show naturally. Satisfied that he is dead and that the death came quick, Tony leaves and drives to the riverside where he makes a call from a phonebooth. Johnny Sack answers at Averna Social Club, and Tony brusquely and without explanation tells him the exact address to go to, then hangs up. He gets into his car and drives away, and hours later Phil Leotardo slowly pulls up to the farmhouse to finally exact his cruel vengeance. But as he slowly approaches the door and gently opens it to get inside, the process of opening the door causes him to look right... where he sees Blundetto's already cold corpse lying in his own dried blood and brains. Tony returns to the Bada Bing, where word it seems has already gotten around given Patsy and Bobby's quiet, solemn nods of respect towards their leader, the general who did what needed to be done for the good of his men. Silvio is opening the safe and informs Tony they picked him up a bialy and some coffee, then casually mentions that Johnny Sack called a couple of times and sounded upset (Silvio has a gun tucked in his hand under the cash he is collecting, perhaps in case the situation isn't as resolved as they'd hoped). Tony takes that in, then compliments the bialy, and Bobby and Patsy assure him they're happy to do it any time, doing their best to thank him without having to embarrass him by saying it. Silvio collects his coat, then gently pats Tony on the shoulder before leading Patsy and Bobby out to give their leader time to himself. Time passes and Tony reads the paper, waiting for the other shoe to drop. Finally the phone rings and he answers, it's Johnny Sack and yes he's pissed, claiming they haven't solved a thing. He's sitting in a doctor's office, wearing only a gown, looking ridiculous but raging that Phil is angrier than ever. Tony, maintaining his cool, smoothly notes that the best thing for everybody is to put this behind them and get back to business, because it's over now. Spluttering in disbelief at Tony's balls to try and play the reasonable man, he demands to know just how that is possible, and is taken aback when Tony calmly says that's something that needs discussing between them, but a good first stop would be Tony giving up a quarter of his points to Phil in the Bloomfield operation. Johnny is silent now, mind racing, the casino was a 60/40 split in Tony's favor, now 40% will be going to Johnny AND Phil will be getting a 25% cut of Tony's (large) part of the 60%? Suddenly money is speaking louder than anger and righteous indignation, and Johnny is remembering the less Carmine Lupertazzi taught him back during the Ralphie Cifaretto situation: it is ALWAYS about money. Johnny explains he's at the hospital getting his yearly physical, but Tony can come to the City tonight and they'll sit down and talk. Remaining calm, Tony says he's been tested and has an IQ of 136 so he's not doing something that stupid (Tony B was in the 150s, but his brains aren't in his head anymore), and Johnny considers and then suggests meeting at his house at 6:30 tomorrow morning since he has to fly out to Miami at 9am to get everything in line down there (that was Little Carmine's territory). Tony doesn't like the sound of that either, but can't argue when Johnny asks if he seriously thinks anything would happen with Ginny upstairs? He agrees, including to Johnny's demand he came alone, because he's not going to have Phil or anybody else there himself. They hang up, and just like that the Sopranos and the Lupertazzis have taken the first step to getting back to a working business relationship again. Tony's next stop is to see Christopher at the hotel room he's holed up in. He informs him that things might be over but he still needs to keep an eye out, but he wants him to go up to Uncle Pat's farm and "pick up" Tony B, he wants him off the premises but he also wants him buried somewhere, and he wants Christopher to be the one to do it. Christopher, picking up quickly what has happened, agrees without any questions or requests for more details. But Tony isn't done yet, taking a seat on a chair and motioning to Christopher to sit on the bed, he points out that they never really had a chance to talk in detail about the situation with Adriana. Now, very calmly, he says he needs to know if Christopher let anything slip to her that she might have passed on to the FBI. Anything at all, it's important they know now. Being forthright for a change, Christopher admits he took her with him a couple of times on collection runs, including at the Esplanade. Tony takes that in quietly but says nothing, leaving Christopher to fill in the gaps with anything else. She was always nosing about the cigarettes, and Tony takes that in too before finally speaking to talk about what really concerns him: his own personal liability. Did he tell her about Ralph Cifaretto? About Matthew Bevilaqua? He promises, swearing on his life even, though Tony has to ask if he'd remember if he did, leaving it unspoken about his drug abuse. He gets up and checks the bathroom, and Christopher know she is looking for heroin. He promises he's clean, he's been reading books and lifting weights to pass the time, and he promises that he's going to prove himself to Tony. They stand in silence for a moment, and Christopher allows a brief moment of emotion to get the better of him... but it's not to show remorse or grief for what they did to Adriana. Instead Christopher complains about her, how she wasn't even willing to do a few years in prison for him, once again making HER somehow to blame in his head for them killing her. Tony is in much the same boat, just like Paulie was after they killed Pussy, agreeing that Adriana - who he would speak fondly with about their medical conditions, who he liked, who he briefly considered taking her for himself and "doing it right" in an entirely new marriage etc - was nothing but a oval office. Just like that, she's stopped being a person to them and become a fictional monster who forced their hand, an enemy who had to be overcome, not somebody who was in any way a valued and long-term part of both their lives. Tony Blundetto at least got a mercifully fast death, probably unaware even of what happened to him. Adriana was killed cruely and now doesn't even get to be remembered well, not even by the man who supposedly loved her. The tightness of Tony and Christopher's embrace belies their statements, but just like with Paulie and Pussy, this fictional monster they created is necessary to prevent them facing up to the monstrousness of their own despicable actions.   AJ is chatting on the phone and presumably looking at porn given how quickly he slams his laptop shut when Carmela walks in the door. She tells him to get off the phone and finish his application to Stroudsburg, and becomes mad when he rolls his eyes and tells her not to be so freaked out. Demanding he get off the phone, she reminds him that if his applications are late he's screwed and it is as simple as that, there is no getting around it, and she KNOWS he is not going to like working at McDonald's but he sure as hell isn't going to be sponging off them for the next year. To her continued frustration, AJ remains at best amused and at worst in open contempt of her warnings, including one to withhold his allowance, laughing that this isn't practical and they both know it. Unfortunately for him, right then is when Tony joins her in the doorway wanting to know what is going on. Tony immediately backs Carmela on her insistence on no allowance, but AJ overcomes his fear of his father to point out it's fine since he has $300 of his own money. He brags about the party he organized, though he shifts the story a bit so that he simply organized it but other people may have brought alcohol which wasn't something he could control. After expenses (a band, he claims) they made $600 and split it between him and Matt, and people have been raving about how good the party was. Exhausted, Tony tells him to do his applications NOW and they close the door. Out in the hallway, Carmela considers and points out that AJ's college adviser (Miss Merrow, she hastily corrects Tony when he asks if it was "Wegman") told her that he did express an interest once about good schools for event planning. Tony is confused and Carmela is too, what exactly is event planning? Moving into their own bedroom, Tony asks if it is "gay" and she shrugs that maybe it is... but you do spend a lot of time around wealthy people (whis is good?). She notes he often watches the Studio 54 movie, which does alarm Tony who is concerned again about "gay", but as they lay down on the bed they consider and both have to admit... at least he's passionate about SOMETHING! Early the next morning, Tony arrives at Johnny Sack's as agreed. Sal Vitro is outside clearing the snow from the spacious lawns, so Tony and Johnny head out back to finally thrash this all out. Johnny was true to his word and nobody else is there, and he asks Tony to open the negotiation. On the first point Tony is adamant, Phil has to accept that punishment for Billy's death has been meted out and that is the end of it. Johnny doesn't agree, Tony's speech about how their top priority being about looking after their families and their families' future falls flat considering Phil's family is shorter by one, Phil isn't going to accept it. However Tony reminds Johnny about the flip side of being the Boss at last... it's his job now to MAKE Phil accept it. Johnny isn't impressed by this, thinking Tony is trying to shove all the responsibility onto him, but Tony reminds him that he is the one who started all this by having Lorraine Calluzo whacked purely because he knows she and Little Carmine used to gently caress (Johnny disgustedly points out they were second cousins). Tony asks if he REALLY wants to shut down their joint construction jobs, does he really want all the money drying up over this when the money was what made him want to be Boss in the first place (he leaves it unmentioned that Johnny was eager to speed the process of Carmine's death along). So while Phil may have a legitimate grievance, he also has a price, something that will provide for his family to such an extent that he can accept not getting to lash out in his rage over Billy's death. Johnny considers and asks what will be the next concession Tony gives him, but that is that, and Tony makes that clear. This negotiation is to end the violence and restart their money making operations, but he's giving up nothing else. Johnny attempts to leave him hanging, but now that Tony has killed his own cousin and gotten his Family fully behind him again his old confidence is back. He stares the Boss of the Lupertazzi Crime Family down and lays it out as clear as could be: he has already paid enough.  For a moment they are locked in a minor struggle of wills, but it is Johnny who blinks first. Letting out a long sigh far different from the bitter forced acceptance of Tony's alibi over Joey Peeps, he agrees that maybe he could sell this to Phil. He admits he actually already has discussed this with Phil, he even gave him the sports book and it STILL wasn't enough to placate him... he's worried he might be pushing for consigliere. Tony is momentarily angry that he went through all this posturing just now only to learn Johnny had already been trying to work the same deal on his end, but quickly laughs and tells Johnny they shouldn't go backwards. Instead they hug, and Johnny admits that he can't believe anybody else would ever want to be Boss if they knew the stress that came with it. Tony laughs, reminding him he warned Johnny the very same, and they smile at each other and suddenly it's the old Johnny Sack again, the one who used to come around and joke and laugh and work out business deals that benefited them both. He admits it is good seeing Tony like this again, and Tony promises that he really does mean it when he says he looks forward to working with him again. Johnny offers him a coffee and Tony consid-and then he's twisting on his heel and rushing with surprising speed away from the house. Johnny is left bewildered, what the gently caress is Tony doing? He turns and looks in the direction Tony suddenly looked before running, and to his horror sees men in FBI windbreakers converging on the house. Johnny runs too, but Tony is well ahead, tossing his gun into a snowbank and fleeing through the trees, wheezing for breath. Johnny tries to go for the street but sees more FBI coming that way, so turns back towards the yard, making an undignified scene as he slips and falls into the snow as FBI Agents surround him. Inside the house, Ginny is freaking out as Agents flood the house, while poor Sal Vitro is jammed to the ground and his wrists cuffed, bellowing in desperation that he's just the gardener, screaming in pain as they possible rebreak his only just healed arm. Tony continues through the neighbors' houses, a chained small dog bouncing off him barking as he continues along. He sees a police car silently moving down the street so moves down the bank and across the stream, moving a couple of blocks over and finally taking a seat on the steps of a school, far enough away that the FBI shouldn't be anywhere nearby. Pulling out his phone, he calls Neil Mink and tells him Johnny Sack was just arrested, does he know anything? Mink does, he was informed on his way to the office: Jimmy Petrille was a cooperator, he's been feeding the FBI information on Johnny for months (Little Carmine lucked out not having him on his side, it seems). The entire Petrille crew has been arrested, with Johnny Sack the cherry on top: the FBI finally got a big win, they've taken down the (new) Boss of the Lupertazzi Family, and if Carmine was still alive they'd have gotten him too: Jimmy gave them EIGHTEEN years worth of info on trafficking, gambling, even homicides. Tony can't believe it, and Neil can't believe it when Tony tells him he was there, in fact his car is still outside of Johnny's house. Mink considers but then reminds him there is no law against parking your car if it isn't in front of a hydrant or in a no-parking zone. More importantly, this was a Brooklyn operation and Tony wasn't named in the indictment, they weren't looking for him, he is very, very lucky. He promises to give Tony more as he hears it, and they hang up. Tony remains on the steps a little longer, the sound of the children's choir from the school vaguely heard, then finally hauls himself to his feet and continues trudging on towards home.  Season 5 of The Sopranos has its problems. There was the lengthy time between season 4 and season 5, of course, but also the fact that so much of what had built up over season 3 and 4 had been largely resolved or dealt with before the massive, incredible status-quo changing impact of Whitecaps. Steve Buscemi is a wonderful actor and delivered strong performances as Tony Blundetto, but at the time and to this day the complaint remains that his character felt too awkwardly retconned in as a major part of everybody's lives, especially Tony's. His death comes after a long season had been built over Tony's shifting emotional responses to his cousin and the reveals of what lay behind his fixation with making things right, and it hits strong... but not as strong as it would have had it been a character who had actually played a major part in the previous 4 seasons. Has Tony B's storyline been Christopher's storyline it would have been hugely more effective to my mind, as it was (and for the characters themselves) there was a degree of redundancy between Tony/Christopher's relationship and Tony/Tony B's. However, if Christopher had replaced Tony B we probably wouldn't have gotten the incredible (and devastating) exit of Drea de Matteo in an amazing episode. And that, perhaps, is one of the key things about season 5. While as a season it lacks the cohesive strength of season 4, it is absolutely packed with stunning individual episodes. While technically we see a return to the status quo so brilliantly shaken up at the end of season 4, the journey along the way is remarkable. When the "worst" episode is probably In Camelot which I think is a very, very good episode, it's hard to think badly about the season. And it isn't QUITE over yet, as we bookend in a lovely fashion. Just like the start of the first episode of the season, the end of the last features shots of the exterior of the Soprano home. From the bushes emerges a lumbering animal, pushing past twigs and branches, awkwardly making its way past the pool towards the house. It bangs on the door, but this time it isn't a bear that elicits fright, but a bedraggled husband that causes his wife confusion. Carmela opens the door and lets Tony in, exclaiming over his soaked shoes and asking what he's been doing. She closes the door behind him, THIS beast is welcome. Tony Soprano has come home. Season 5: Two Tonys | Rat Pack | Where's Johnny? | All Happy Families... | Irregular Around the Margins | Sentimental Education | In Camelot | Marco Polo | Unidentified Black Males | Cold Cuts | The Test Dream | Long Term Parking | All Due Respect Season 1 | Season 2 | Season 3 | Season 4 | Season 5 | Season 6.1 | Season 6.2 Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Apr 23, 2020 |
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crispix posted:Yeah he pronounces all his Rs and THes and is generally less nasal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKu14HdgeZA
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Tony and Paulie's surreal exchange over the Pie-O-My painting is one of the funniest things I've seen in this show, I think, and one of the few times I can relate to his bewilderment.
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Watching both Tony and Johnny try do their mad dash reminds me of Junior in season one telling Pussy that 'we don't run, it's undignified.' And sure enough, it was.
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Jason Sextro posted:Tony and Paulie's surreal exchange over the Pie-O-My painting is one of the funniest things I've seen in this show, I think, and one of the few times I can relate to his bewilderment. I totally agree, Tony’s what-the-gently caress look and confused questions are totally justified and absolutely hilarious. What the gently caress, Paulie, you weirdo?
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Jerusalem posted:Standing tall, smile beaming confidence, a sabre on his hip, a hand on his sash. Confident, secure, a leader, a decision-maker. Rommel. He is rather portly to be
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I love Tony’s “aw Jesus” re: the studio 54 movie
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Ishamael posted:I totally agree, Tony’s what-the-gently caress look and confused questions are totally justified and absolutely hilarious. What the gently caress, Paulie, you weirdo? Paulie hanging his head and going,"But you never come visit, Tony...." all hangdog is amazing. He's a grown-rear end man, he's older than Tony in fact, acting like a 7 year old kid.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I love Tony’s “aw Jesus” re: the studio 54 movie Pahty plannin????
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Nov 25, 2019 23:28
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Tony and Carmela laying on the bed together, slowly trying to be okay with their awful son's terrible career path (that they've decided he wants to do) is so great. They don't understand it at all but... it's something!
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Nov 26, 2019 00:49
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AJ's dialogue might not always be up to snuff, but his overall depiction over the series is great. He's just a dumb child of privilege, that's it. He doesn't have a heart of gold, but he's not a complete rear end in a top hat. He is just a kid who has never, ever had to worry about anything in his life. Why would he need to ever work? He never has before and everything he could ever want is provided for him. I had less money than AJ growing up, but I can't say I was much different at his age. I had no idea what I was doing until two years into college.
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Mr. Prokosch posted:He's just a dumb child of privilege, that's it. One thing is for certain, he would be a youtuber. A successful one.
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Nov 26, 2019 01:48
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Thing is, and this is explored for the rest of the series, AJ obviously suffers from depression and panic attacks, but, unlike Tony, they don’t come from the inability to reconcile being a murdering rear end in a top hat with being a good son and a good father and a good husband and a good friend and a good leader. He’s a kid that is at least somewhat aware of what his father does and what he’s capable of, even if it isn’t as understood as with Meadow. But he does know that uncles go missing and Meadow’s boyfriend, who AJ actually got along with, was murdered. And after Junior shoots Tony, AJ is entirely without any kind of therapy and unmedicated other than alcohol and coke, leading to breakdowns and horrible decision making. I know he’s a spoiled brat, but I feel people somehow ignore the fact that he’s expected to take after his father in that culture and amongst what people believe, and is in no way capable or even able to fully understand what that means, especially when his father is the Boss of New Jersey.
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Nov 26, 2019 01:52
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AJ also has the issue (which Tony and Carmela unknowingly touch on) that he's following in Meadow's wake. She's a giant success, everything she does seems to turn to gold, and the pressure that puts on him is enormous, especially since he's fully aware that they're completely different people and he's not going to be able to live up to that... so he just stops trying entirely. The only time he seems to find success at a level she didn't is when he starts doing well in football, and Tony's immediate interest/happiness that follows must have had a big impact on him. You can see the thinnest level of interest in college when he figures to put all his eggs in one basket and go to Arizona State, and even then it's just a slightly less ridiculous version of his unthinking declaration that he's going to go to Westpoint a few seasons earlier: it's a place he knows is supposed to be a good college, so he picks it without any real deeper thought. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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Nov 26, 2019 02:13
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Jerusalem posted:AJ also has the issue (which Tony and Carmela unknowingly touch on) that he's following in Meadow's wake. She's a giant success, everything she does seems to turn to gold, and the pressure that puts on him is enormous, especially since he's fully aware that they're completely different people and he's not going to be able to live up to that... so he just stops trying entirely. That’s why in “No Show” AJ only shows up to complain about the internet connection and is told to shut up and go away, maybe fifteen seconds of screen time. While the rest of the episode deals with Meadow, and even “Kid A” by Radiohead plays over the credits.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:“No Show”  
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codo27 posted:One thing is for certain, he would be a youtuber. A successful one. Nah. He's too dumb for that even. I posted this earlier but this seems about right https://twitter.com/nickusen/status/1195761127160000512?ref_url=http%3a%2f%2fforums.somethingawful.com%2f
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What is cumtown? (I am not going to put "cumtown" into my google search history)
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Jerusalem posted:What is cumtown? (I am not going to put "cumtown" into my google search history) https://youtu.be/9UsVzTsYW8E
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Matt Zerella posted:Nah. He's too dumb for that even. That was precisely the point. Everything on YouTube (that's made expressly for YouTube) is garbage by idiots
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codo27 posted:That was precisely the point. Everything on YouTube (that's made expressly for YouTube) is garbage by idiots I'm having trouble grasping what you're saying here because YouTube is an enormously helpful resource for me at least 3-10 times a week.
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AJ is to me the most relatable person on this show. Not a good person, but is definitely feels like people I have met in Highschool and College and to an extent been friends with at some point.
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S6 AJ was like a typical LF poster. Strong beliefs but utterly worthless when it comes to doing anything about it.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Thing is, and this is explored for the rest of the series, AJ obviously suffers from depression and panic attacks, but, unlike Tony, they don’t come from the inability to reconcile being a murdering rear end in a top hat with being a good son and a good father and a good husband and a good friend and a good leader. He’s a kid that is at least somewhat aware of what his father does and what he’s capable of, even if it isn’t as understood as with Meadow. But he does know that uncles go missing and Meadow’s boyfriend, who AJ actually got along with, was murdered. And after Junior shoots Tony, AJ is entirely without any kind of therapy and unmedicated other than alcohol and coke, leading to breakdowns and horrible decision making. I know he’s a spoiled brat, but I feel people somehow ignore the fact that he’s expected to take after his father in that culture and amongst what people believe, and is in no way capable or even able to fully understand what that means, especially when his father is the Boss of New Jersey. I think of the saddest scenes in the entire show is in Pine Barrens when Tony loses it and starts screaming “ IS THERE ANYWAY THE PACKAGE SURVIVED” and “I have a meeting with Slava in an hour I could be walking into an ambush” and the camera pulls back a little bit and you can see AJ sitting in the tv room and can hear everything. I think it’s one thing to hear rumors that your Dad is in the mafia , but to hear him scream about getting killed and talking in code that even AJ could figure out means “ did you kill this guy” is another. He has this terribly pained faced while he’s listening to Tony and you can tell for the first time he’s really coming to terms with the fact that his dad is a gangster and has people killed on the regular. Jerusalem posted:What is cumtown? (I am not going to put "cumtown" into my google search history) It’s a podcast by 3 idiot edge lords NY comedians who stumbled into making 40k a month on Patreon. It’s really, really not for everyone but they can be downright hilarious at times. They talk about the Sopranos a lot in the earlier episodes. Your Gay Uncle fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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codo27 posted:One thing is for certain, he would be a youtuber. A successful one. AJ would be a mega-success Youtube Let's Player/Twitch streamer until he drops the n-word during a stream, and while he's uploading notes app apologies on Twitter, people start looking into his background and learn his dad's the presumed Boss of the DiMeo crime family. And then that furor dies down and he ends up becoming a Youtube partner and every now and again, usually following him doing something really dumb, someone on Twitter rediscovers that fact for the first time and loses their poo poo.
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banned from Starbucks posted:S6 AJ was like a typical LF poster. Strong beliefs but utterly worthless when it comes to doing anything about it. AJ never had strong beliefs what are you on about. He was a typical liberal, for a thing in the abstract but balked when it effected him. Same with Meadow. They are honestly pretty alike in most ways CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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Precambrian posted:AJ would be a mega-success Youtube Let's Player/Twitch streamer until he drops the n-word during a stream, and while he's uploading notes app apologies on Twitter, people start looking into his background and learn his dad's the presumed Boss of the DiMeo crime family. Would he be a mega-success or just DarksydePhil with a better set up?
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I despise all speculation of "show characters in present day real world", it's also poisoned the Frasier thread. I always think "So-and-so would never do that!"  The truth is that watching hours of a well-put together TV show with fleshed out characters puts most of the viewers no closer to understanding what motivates those characters or what they would do in hypothetical situations, perhaps because they are bad at reading people, also possibly likely because they are bad at watching TV
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Vichan posted:You and those fuckin' videos! Late reply here but this loving cracked me up. Also holy poo poo Christopher thinking he was going to have a threesome with Adriana and Danielle 
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Jerusalem posted:Late reply here but this loving cracked me up. Also holy poo poo Christopher thinking he was going to have a threesome with Adriana and Danielle Who knows what a broad like will do! She’ll probably gently caress a snake!
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Jerusalem posted:Also holy poo poo Christopher thinking he was going to have a threesome with Adriana and Danielle This was after he had already figured out that Danielle was gay, too. Thing is, aside from women we see him with occasionally at parties or in a hotel room, Christopher never had a comare. That’s really interesting.
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Funny how our first real screen time with Furio is him beating the face off some woman, then in S4 he's Jersey's most eligible bachelor
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Solice Kirsk posted:I thought he beat up a little kid first? That was a group effort. God knows what that made that kid think setting off fireworks near the Italian mob's don would be a good way to get in.
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I toad you young people that crack is some bad poo poo!
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Gigi was one of my favorite characters but I can't explain why.
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