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Gologle posted:https://blog.us.playstation.com/2019/11/25/new-final-fantasy-vii-remake-screens-feature-cloud-combat-and-more/ Everybody missed the most important thing in this article:  NAILBAT CONFIRMED
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Fister Roboto posted:Everybody missed the most important thing in this article: I also immediately cheered when I noticed this And having ffix-style weapon abilities is cool as heck, this game's gonna rule
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Nov 26, 2019 20:33
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Ventana posted:Can you link to these because I'd love to read about this and I haven't been to the Gundam threads for a while quote:You know, what I am bored as hell and feel like sperging about Gundam. I din't copy any of the rest though and I also had to fix the image inks.
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Nov 26, 2019 21:21
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Knee length cavalry bucket boots are still sexy. Still to this day questioning those white mess hall hussar style formals that dip way too far into waiter in mid 19th century hotel. A lot of uniforms in that anime straddle the line between weird milhist mish mash and crazy old time hotel vibe. I was going to do Gundam Seed but Futurama beat me to the one joke I was going to make.
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Nov 26, 2019 21:27
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Ffffffuuuuuck I want to see the Glemy rage, but yeah that was a fun read and I'm glad I can be ok in secretely liking Treizes outfit.
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Nov 26, 2019 22:42
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On topic, I am legit sad those Cossack/Ottman looking Midgar militia dudes didn't make the cut for the remake.
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Nov 27, 2019 01:25
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Great suit post. Hell, you could probably write a book about fashion and Final Fantasy with how much the two intertwine. There’s a whole wealth of material to dive into there.
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Nov 27, 2019 02:15
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Elephant Ambush posted:So let's talk about the outfits in FFX-2. They sure are something. I'm a big fan of all the Trainer outfits. Dark Knight too.
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Nov 27, 2019 04:41
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I really can't stand the Dark Knight outfits because the swords are hideous. Samurai was my favorite, especially for Rikku. I love the animation of her trying to run and swing that big rear end katana. It takes a split second of "oomph'ing" to swing it at enemies and it's great. Random thought: does anyone know anything about sword stances? I always thought Tidus looked goofy and lame with how he held his sword but, n ow I'm older , Auron's stance is probably more unrealistic.
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Nov 27, 2019 05:24
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wher the gently caress is theatrhythm
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Nov 27, 2019 05:29
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NikkolasKing posted:I really can't stand the Dark Knight outfits because the swords are hideous. Dark Knight swords are so ridiculous you could practically call them ornamental, especially considering you don't normally use the regular attack command with Dark Knights. I like how Rikku has extra flair for her regular attacks in her gun using dresspheres, resulting in a longer delay compared to Yuna and Paine.
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Nov 27, 2019 06:16
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gigglefeimer posted:I like how Rikku has extra flair for her regular attacks in her gun using dresspheres, resulting in a longer delay compared to Yuna and Paine. rikku and guns is one of the weird things about X-2 she has more complicated animations in order to represent the fact that, as an Al Bhed, she is one of the only people on the planet who actually has experience with them and is comfortable using them. But, for some reason, gunner is Yuna's default(despite the fact that like the whole plot of the game revolves around the dancer sphere and her connection to it) and Rikku's is still thief, and the fact that her animations are more complicated and take longer actually makes Rikku noticeably worse at being a gunner. And Paine also has experience with guns, even though that's not revealed until later, but her animations for them are basically like Yuna's. it just feels like there was a lot of failure to communicate between parts of the dev team
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Nov 27, 2019 09:06
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cock hero flux posted:rikku and guns is one of the weird things about X-2 The consistency all went to making sure Rikku wore the skimpiest version of every Dressphere and Paine wore the most stylish version of each Dressphere. Love her White Mage design.
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Nov 27, 2019 09:33
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cock hero flux posted:rikku and guns is one of the weird things about X-2 I mean, isn't Yuna half al bhed? I wouldn't say it's the biggest stretch for her to also be good at guns if you're going with the representation route.
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Nov 27, 2019 10:53
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Ventana posted:I mean, isn't Yuna half al bhed? I wouldn't say it's the biggest stretch for her to also be good at guns if you're going with the representation route. yes but she never lived with or met any of them, and her mother seemingly died almost immediately after she was born. she was raised by the church and/or religious island hicks, as opposed to rikku whose first appearance has her commanding a squad of dudes with rifles
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Nov 27, 2019 11:05
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Ventana posted:I mean, isn't Yuna half al bhed? I wouldn't say it's the biggest stretch for her to also be good at guns if you're going with the representation route. That's a very Wakka thing to say.
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Nov 27, 2019 11:11
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I don't think you need to be a certain race to use guns well. They're guns.
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Nov 27, 2019 11:34
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It's not about race, it's about culture and actual experience. Ithard to get experience with guns if you grow up in a place without guns.
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Clarste posted:It's not about race, it's about culture and actual experience. Ithard to get experience with guns if you grow up in a place without guns. guns are the ultimate peasant weapon, anyone can point one and pull the trigger and fork a knight off his horse without any training whatsoever if anything, every class in fft should be able to use guns but with a range penalty if you aren't an engineer rikku twirls and dances around unnecessarily when she gunkatas because she open palm slams monster energy drinks for breakfast Fur20 fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Nov 27, 2019 |
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Nov 27, 2019 12:48
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The White Dragon posted:guns are the ultimate peasant weapon, anyone can point one and pull the trigger and fork a knight off his horse without any training whatsoever And considering FFX ended with you murdering all the Aeons, Yuna probably needed a weapon that didn't take years of practice with in order to go sphere hunting. Rikku kept her daggers because they worked just fine back then and they work just fine now.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:50
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Leal posted:I don't think you need to be a certain race to use guns well. They're guns. it's a bit different when they've literally been your religion's greatest taboo for a thousand years to the point where you would get excommunicated and branded a heretic for touching one(unless you were part of the secret church rifle monks like paine sort of was), while the Al Bhed have spent that time focusing their efforts on obtaining and using increasingly large guns with unbridled enthusiasm and optimism to the point where after they suffered enormous casualties during operation "shoot the immortal god-monster with the biggest gun we've found" their next approach, rather than falling to their knees and praying for forgiveness for their hubris in the face of divine judgement like the yevonites, was to distract it with some light music and then shoot it again with a slightly bigger gun there's a bit during the operation mi'hen cutscene where the al bhed operating the big gun sees that sin isn't being affected and goes and turns a knob which makes the gun shoot harder. he turns it pretty far, too. he was in charge of shooting a gun at a creature which had terrorized humanity for 1000 years and which had displayed total invulnerability to everything other than an aeon so powerful that summoning it burnt out 2 human souls like old lightbulbs and he thought "this gun's really big, eeeh, 40% power should probably be enough". that's how much the Al Bhed love guns, and Yevon hates them to exactly the same extent.
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Nov 27, 2019 13:05
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BisbyWorl posted:Rikku kept her daggers because they worked just fine back then and they work just fine now. Rikku didn't use knives, though, she had gauntlets and punched poo poo. And yet when she's a Berserker, she uses Capoeira, a kind of Brazilian kickboxing. Also Paine gets the best Dresspheres, her Songstress outfit has this David Bowie sort of thing going on and Full Throttle is a bird made of swords.
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Nov 27, 2019 13:28
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cock hero flux posted:rikku and guns is one of the weird things about X-2 Rikku has more style than Yuna and Paine, it totally fits her personality. Paine meanwhile is all about efficiency - while Rikku Capoeiras around, Paine's normal Berserker attack is like the fastest in the game, and the two hits of her attack as a Thief are simultaneous. And the delay on Rikku's gun attacks aren't necessarily bad, because timing is a thing in this game. Same way Paine's simultaneous Thief attack, or Yuna's delayed Lady Luck attack can be a blessing or a curse depending on the situation. Songstress is Lenne's dressphere, not Yuna's. The Gunner dressphere represents Yuna's change from X.
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Nov 27, 2019 15:52
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My favourite Weird FFX2 Detail is that Leblanc is basically wearing the Lady Luck Dressphere. Check the other three girls, they each have a spade, diamond, or club, and Leblanc has the heart.
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Nov 27, 2019 19:10
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YggiDee posted:My favourite Weird FFX2 Detail is that Leblanc is basically wearing the Lady Luck Dressphere. Check the other three girls, they each have a spade, diamond, or club, and Leblanc has the heart. X-2 remake where leblanc joins the party proper when?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:X-2 remake where leblanc joins the party proper when? Why would she join that group of amateurs? She will be the main character of Leblanc Returns: FFX-3.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:X-2 remake where leblanc joins the party proper when? The massage was just that good okay?
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gigglefeimer posted:Why would she join that group of amateurs? She will be the main character of Leblanc Returns: FFX-3. But I wanted a party of her, Ormi and Logos going on their own adventures. Be like FFVIII and playing as Seifer, Raijin and Fujin.
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Nov 27, 2019 21:21
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Leblanc's beastmaster dressphere just summons her two idiot goons instead of a pet
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NikkolasKing posted:But I wanted a party of her, Ormi and Logos going on their own adventures.
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Nov 27, 2019 22:07
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Anyone know why they had the FFX-2 English VAs for YRP randomly say Japanese phrases? Because it cracks me up every time and the first few times I heard them I was like "wait, what, was that Japanese?"
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Nov 27, 2019 22:26
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Ormi and Logos are legit one of the biggest wasted potential moments in X-2. they were Yevon's clean-up boys (which doesn't get addressed in "present-day" beyond one missable sentence), they were involved in the Crimson Squad incident (which Paine never confronts them on), they implicitly had a similar "Yevon is bullshit, actually" journey to the gang in X (which goes straight from point A, unbothered banter-laden heretic murdering, to point B, rolling with Leblanc's Nooj-impressing project and ruing their past actions, with no in-between) they could've used that to reinforce the thematic core of the game or give some much-needed characterization to the initial antagonists. maybe keep them plot-relevant throughout. but nope, apparently making brother be into his cousin was more important fluffyDeathbringer fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Nov 27, 2019 |
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Nov 27, 2019 22:31
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fluffyDeathbringer posted:apparently making brother be into his cousin was more important Trust me, it will pay off once I eventually make FF10-4, where Brother runs against Shinra to be the president of the FF7 world (and sadly loses, though he does find true love and eventually decides to raise his family in a little remote town called Nibelheim...)
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fluffyDeathbringer posted:they implicitly had a similar "Yevon is bullshit, actually" journey to the gang in X (which goes straight from point A, unbothered banter-laden heretic murdering, to point B, rolling with Leblanc's Nooj-impressing project and ruing their past actions, with no in-between) Implicitly, maybe they did go through a heartfelt journey of repentance. Explicitly, Leblanc gave them the heel. Elephant Ambush posted:Anyone know why they had the FFX-2 English VAs for YRP randomly say Japanese phrases? Because it cracks me up every time and the first few times I heard them I was like "wait, what, was that Japanese?" Like many things in X-2, the answer is Because It's Cool. gigglefeimer fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Nov 27, 2019 |
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Nov 27, 2019 22:54
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Elephant Ambush posted:Anyone know why they had the FFX-2 English VAs for YRP randomly say Japanese phrases? Because it cracks me up every time and the first few times I heard them I was like "wait, what, was that Japanese?" Can you give some examples? I don't remember any.
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Nov 27, 2019 23:12
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I think it's just for the festivalist dressphere which has like a traditional japanese thing going on
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It'll happen for others too. It's only in the remaster though so if you played the original and are thinking "huh I don't remember that?", well, that's why. (I think technically it would have been added back when the International edition was first made, but that was only released in Japan - which might explain why they had english VAs doing random Japanese lines?) The Cheshire Cat fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Nov 28, 2019 00:28
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Maybe its because you turned off (English) subtitles 
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NikkolasKing posted:Can you give some examples? I don't remember any. "Yuna! Mairimasu!" "Zettaide ikuyo!" There's at least one other but I forget. It's just really jarring because their pronunciation isn't the greatest. I still think it's a good thing though because hey why not do that in this wacky game?
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fluffyDeathbringer posted:Ormi and Logos are legit one of the biggest wasted potential moments in X-2. they were Yevon's clean-up boys (which doesn't get addressed in "present-day" beyond one missable sentence), they were involved in the Crimson Squad incident (which Paine never confronts them on), they implicitly had a similar "Yevon is bullshit, actually" journey to the gang in X (which goes straight from point A, unbothered banter-laden heretic murdering, to point B, rolling with Leblanc's Nooj-impressing project and ruing their past actions, with no in-between)
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