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it seems like a big deal when one teams support gets the +gpm jungle item and thje other one doesnt
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:The courier item thing is hilarious and also sort of a clever outlet for those games that stalemate post 60 minutes teams wipe at rosh, couriers with meteor hammer/necrobook/helm of dominator take down throne
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Nov 27, 2019 02:19
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ZionestLord posted:purge is the stupidest person in dota 2 This is an interesting opinion to have. Care to qualify that, or are we just going full troll?
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Nov 27, 2019 02:46
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purge isn't the stupidest, he's just the stupidest person that people think is smart.
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Nov 27, 2019 03:35
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Omg Dota never dissapoints.
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Nov 27, 2019 03:41
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god bless patch day
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BabyRyoga posted:This is an interesting opinion to have. Care to qualify that, or are we just going full troll? No trolling allowed!!!
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Nov 27, 2019 04:13
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Purge is still going over patch notes.
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Nov 27, 2019 04:15
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dreamleague qualifiers start on thursday by the way
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Nov 27, 2019 04:20
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is it weird that my takeaway from the patch notes is that Dota is gonna be much harder to observe? action is gonna be all over the place now
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Purge's patch streams are ridiculous mostly because he insists on trying to do much deeper analysis than is at all reasonable. There's a lot of interesting information there, but there's also a lot of (1) pulling out a calculator to figure out exactly how much damage some skill will do at rank 3 on a target with 20% spell resistance, (2) ten minutes of theorycrafting about how the change will affect skill and item builds for a particular hero, and (3) trying to test out every obscure interaction that occurs to him during the stream. Pretty much all of that is stuff he could cut with some discipline. On the other hand, I think there's literally no incentive for him to do that. He got something like 2,000 subs today and was still picking them up until the very end. He probably doesn't get that if his stream is three hours instead of eight.
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rjmccall posted:Purge's patch streams are ridiculous mostly because he insists on trying to do much deeper analysis than is at all reasonable. There's a lot of interesting information there, but there's also a lot of (1) pulling out a calculator to figure out exactly how much damage some skill will do at rank 3 on a target with 20% spell resistance, (2) ten minutes of theorycrafting about how the change will affect skill and item builds for a particular hero, and (3) trying to test out every obscure interaction that occurs to him during the stream. Pretty much all of that is stuff he could cut with some discipline. yeah people tune in to seem him do his weird poo poo
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Nov 27, 2019 05:10
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Purge rules
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Purge rules
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Getting an arcane ring as a 5 pos from the first creep pull... :kisses: Drop rate on items probably needs to be toned down a little bit, but it's nice to have something matter in game that's not just tower/lane pressure.
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Nov 27, 2019 05:22
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Purge rules
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:The courier item thing is hilarious and also sort of a clever outlet for those games that stalemate post 60 minutes i really don’t think the game needs help with dislodging post 60 minute stalemates, but maybe that’s just me Not too many games stall out at that point and those that do are Good To Watch I can see there being an argument that like, at the last major, there were too many games where a team was ahead the whole game then took like a bad fight, bought back to secure rosh, and lost one or two cores at Rosh, and lost the whole game outright, and maybe all this extra stuff from map control would help a team that’s been ahead choke out a ‘beaten’ team instead of having a goofy coin flip rosh fight But I dunno, I don’t think the late game needed to be made shorter, doesn’t seem like we’ve had any ridiculously long matches, and the few we did were usually really good i have not had a chance to play the patch yet, but i, too, am skeptical of how you can balance the random item drops without making them much weake
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Also i am just not keen on like... courier plays being a part of ~Late Game Dota~ We had animalities and air force stuff in Dota 1 and i feel like it was fine for goofy stuff on battle.net but kinda hate the idea for current dota 2 That said, I guess the cost and extreme late game part of means you probably shouldn’t see like couriers sporting dagons or drive-by shivas plays or something very often
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Nov 27, 2019 05:54
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trip report on snapfire: shes bad
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sugar free jazz posted:trip report on snapfire: shes bad Seems like both of them might be. Could just be a case of people needing to figure them out more I guess. There's probably a lot of people misplaying the cookie on Snapfire right now.
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Nov 27, 2019 06:57
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cap is convinced Void Spirit is broken and I think he likes Snapfire too. I'd link his stream but he didn't get either hero in the current game It's too early to tell anyway. The Pango patch took forever to shake out, people thought Pango was horrible for like two months (Willow was completely busted from the start)
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Nov 27, 2019 07:08
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that was also the patch everyone thought the tiny and morphling reworks were awful, and, well, lmao
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emdash posted:cap is convinced Void Spirit is broken and I think he likes Snapfire too. I'd link his stream but he didn't get either hero in the current game When was the last time a new hero wasn't broken though E: I was watching sing look at void spirit last night and basically his reaction to every skill was "it does HOW MUCH DAMAGE?" E2: Especially the shield looks busted. The pulse does ridiculous amounts of damage
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Void is like the other spirits. Really good in the right hands. Probably the easiest of them all to play though. Snapfire's ultimate is pretty baller in teamfights if the rest of her team can setup. Her slow is pretty decent in lane. Her cookie is situational, but free at least. Her third is... maybe too much concept. But I don't get coordinated teams in bad behavior so who the hell really knows.
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TheRat posted:When was the last time a new hero wasn't broken though my point was the new heroes have the bottom two winrates so far and people are starting go "they're poo poo" and it's probably not true! i don't think pango was obviously broken right away unless i'm forgetting a nerf in the first week or something
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Playing pango you could tell there was something there and you were just bad, same with earth spirit or ember spirit Snapfire sucks rear end tho, just like, bleh The only thing htat feels good to use is the Q
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Nov 27, 2019 07:40
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Void spirit is ridiculous and I love him. Pubs keep picking snapfire and don't really know what to do with her
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This patch is nuclear-grade bonkers.
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emdash posted:cap is convinced Void Spirit is broken and I think he likes Snapfire too. I'd link his stream but he didn't get either hero in the current game Pango was horrible until he was heavily buffed quote:Swashbuckle That said Void Spirits probably a good 3 and Spitfires a good 4 or 5. Kild fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Nov 27, 2019 |
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The random item from jungle creeps might be better if it doesn't activate until the first T3 tower on either side is down.
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I think you guys are overestimating the power of these neutral drops. They're useful but there's enough of them and drop chances are low enough that you really can't speculate on a specific hero + item combo. There's a global announcement when they're picked up so it's not a complete surprise either, it's about forcing people to adapt and not blindly pick the same items every game
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I'm watching merlini play puck and maybe these other dudes are bad but this hero seems good
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NtotheTC posted:I think you guys are overestimating the power of these neutral drops. They're useful but there's enough of them and drop chances are low enough that you really can't speculate on a specific hero + item combo. There's a global announcement when they're picked up so it's not a complete surprise either, it's about forcing people to adapt and not blindly pick the same items every game That announcements only for your team I believe. And you're right you can't speculate an getting aghs tome on morph and imp claw so he's critting you for 2k after morphing into shaker at 18m. Meanwhile you have an essence ring so you can spend 200 mana to heal for 300 Kild fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Nov 27, 2019 |
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I sincerely hate Snapfire's visual design, and Void Spirit is just boring looking. I miss when Valve had good artists doing weird polynesian stuff like jugg and bs. 
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Dont think we really have an abundance of cranky crazy old ladies to call Spitfire boring honestly. It's an old lady on a salamander which is rad
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Kild posted:That announcements only for your team I believe. And you're right you can't speculate an getting aghs tome on morph and imp claw so he's critting you for 2k after morphing into shaker at 18m. Meanwhile you have an essence ring so you can spend 200 mana to heal for 300 Is it that much different from a dd rune spawning for the Morph right as they get aghs? Some of the items might need some tweaking but the drop rate is pseudo rng so map control will pretty reliably get you more stuff.
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I'm surprised they didn't rework the TB aghs, it's probably one of the worst in the game with all of these new works and no one bought it before.
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its pretty funny how as a pos5 you end up being a trashcan for neutral items
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