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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I find it insane that people prefer weekly releases instead of the entire season at once.

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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

punk rebel ecks posted:

I find it insane that people prefer weekly releases instead of the entire season at once.

I used to feel this way but lately I prefer weekly releases 1) because it makes me more excited for each episode since I’m not blowing through all of them in one go, 2) each episode becomes more memorable, again, because I’m not watching them all in one or two unbroken marathons, and 3) weekly releases are more conducive for in-depth discussion.

Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL
Yeah I totally get enjoying one episode at a time. It's nice to have a few shows that we can watch together on couple of evenings per week that my wife and I both have time. Sundays it's all the HBO stuff, Wednesday we get to The Profit and whatever we didn't have time for from the weekend (Shameless, Get Shorty, whatever), Thursdays are good for comedies. I get that might be boring to some people or you might prefer to just power through a series all at once, but I feel like it gives our weekly routine a nice rhythm.

Binging isn't so bad either, but we definitely don't theorize so much or even just talk about what happened in any given episode as much as we do with weekly shows. I mean we could wait until the full season is available on whatever platform and then plan our weekly viewing schedule in a similar way, but waiting seems dumb when you can just watch the new episode then move on to the new episode of whatever other show.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


I think less of Netflix.


https://www.axios.com/netflix-ceo-reed-hastings-saudi-arabia-cebc8a3c-f7c5-4a5e-8009-871fe65c541b.html

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I used to feel this way but lately I prefer weekly releases 1) because it makes me more excited for each episode since I’m not blowing through all of them in one go, 2) each episode becomes more memorable, again, because I’m not watching them all in one or two unbroken marathons, and 3) weekly releases are more conducive for in-depth discussion.

Other than point 3 you could have all of this with just a little bit of self control.

The Mandalorian is four hours of content stretched out over 2 months so that you can’t watch it all and cancel your subscription. I look forward to when disney releases Star Wars episode X in fifteen minute increments over a year so that it can “foster in-depth discussion”.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

veni veni veni posted:

I don't know what to think about Netflix right now. I've had it almost consistently since back when it was a DVD service and this is the first time I've really wondered if it was worth it. Been thinking about subbing a la carte for the first time, since it seems like they maybe put out one thing I want to watch a month, and their non Netflix produced selection is getting dire.

I'm honestly not super thrilled with any streaming service atm. So much content and I can't seem to find anything I actually want to watch most of the time. If I was less lazy and impulsive I'd probably just juggle my subs instead of paying like 50 dollars a month for streaming services that I maybe watch for 20 hours a month.

Do it. I’ve been juggling streaming services for several years. They all make it very, very easy to cancel and renew whenever you want (well, there’s a billing period you pay for, but you know what I mean). Your watch lists will still be there assuming you don’t wait too long (I think Netflix keeps it for a year or maybe 18 months?). I spend a few months with each service at a time (Netflix, Hulu, & HBO; gently caress Bezos).

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

Thinking of asking my book store to only sell me novels in one-chapter increments so I don’t get ahead of my boys in the book club

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Starks posted:

Other than point 3 you could have all of this with just a little bit of self control.

The Mandalorian is four hours of content stretched out over 2 months so that you can’t watch it all and cancel your subscription. I look forward to when disney releases Star Wars episode X in fifteen minute increments over a year so that it can “foster in-depth discussion”.

Pretty much.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

Starks posted:

Thinking of asking my book store to only sell me novels in one-chapter increments so I don’t get ahead of my boys in the book club
Many beloved novels were originally released a chapter at a time in newspapers or magazines. I can understand preferring to have the whole book (or TV series) at once, but the idea that this is some sort of ludicrous model that Disney thought up to gently caress people over even though everyone hates it is kind of silly.

Turambar
Feb 20, 2001

A Túrin Turambar turun ambartanen
Grimey Drawer

Starks posted:

Thinking of asking my book store to only sell me novels in one-chapter increments so I don’t get ahead of my boys in the book club

You're a few 100 years late:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_(literature)

On topic: I started watching See on Apple TV+

Impressed by the cinematography. A lot less family friendly than I expected (just finished episode 3).

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




Starks posted:

Thinking of asking my book store to only sell me novels in one-chapter increments so I don’t get ahead of my boys in the book club

Looking forward to this lovely take being stretched over the next few pages of this thread

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

TychoCelchuuu posted:

Many beloved novels were originally released a chapter at a time in newspapers or magazines. I can understand preferring to have the whole book (or TV series) at once, but the idea that this is some sort of ludicrous model that Disney thought up to gently caress people over even though everyone hates it is kind of silly.

Yeah that’s not even remotely what I said though. It’s totally normal for companies to release stuff this way. What’s ludicrous is to actually want it as a consumer because it is objectively worse.

No well adjusted human wanted to pay for a tale of two cities over 31 weeks instead of buying the novel at once and reading it at their own pace. There are also cases where it’s necessary to release in instalments because a project is incomplete and you’re releasing as you go. But wanting companies to release content that’s already finished Iike some kind of diamond cartel is basically asking to be ripped off.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
I did enjoy when King released the Green Mile novel as a serial back in the 90’s, and I don’t mind the occasional show that is released weekly. Honestly I am actually glad both Watchmen and Mr. Robot are released weekly. That said, for example, Mandalorian seems to be the type of show that is more of one long movie that is meant to be binged. While I enjoyed the first episode and would have kept watching if the episodes were available, I haven’t made any effort to go back to it. For me to watch weekly it has to be appointment TV, and while it is good, it is not that good (I will go back when all episodes are released).

After giving it a fair spin, Disney+ is truly something I only need one month a year at this time. The only thing I’ve used it so far was to catch-up on some Marvel movies, watch the Star Wars prequels for the first time since they came out, and Mandalorian. I figured this would be the case for me (kids are grown and I find the MCU stuff just ok).

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Starks posted:

Other than point 3 you could have all of this with just a little bit of self control.

The Mandalorian is four hours of content stretched out over 2 months so that you can’t watch it all and cancel your subscription. I look forward to when disney releases Star Wars episode X in fifteen minute increments over a year so that it can “foster in-depth discussion”.
Self control doesn't matter when other people can binge and spoil it for you. *Cue someone citing that stupid study that says people actually enjoy stuff more after being spoiled*

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

nate fisher posted:

After giving it a fair spin, Disney+ is truly something I only need one month a year at this time. The only thing I’ve used it so far was to catch-up on some Marvel movies, watch the Star Wars prequels for the first time since they came out, and Mandalorian. I figured this would be the case for me (kids are grown and I find the MCU stuff just ok).

I think for me to make it worth it as a long-term subscription I'd have to have the willpower to not see any Marvel or Star Wars stuff until it shows up on Disney+. And I know I do not have that willpower.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Anyone with D+ should make a point to watch all the old animated shorts from the late 20s through the 50s. I hadn't seen most of those since I was a young child, and they are absolutely fantastic. Wonderful animation and I legit laughed out loud many times.

e: also the Imagineers doc series is really good and interesting

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Starks posted:

Yeah that’s not even remotely what I said though. It’s totally normal for companies to release stuff this way. What’s ludicrous is to actually want it as a consumer because it is objectively worse.

No well adjusted human wanted to pay for a tale of two cities over 31 weeks instead of buying the novel at once and reading it at their own pace. There are also cases where it’s necessary to release in instalments because a project is incomplete and you’re releasing as you go. But wanting companies to release content that’s already finished Iike some kind of diamond cartel is basically asking to be ripped off.

You saved me a post. Thank you.

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Enos Cabell posted:

Anyone with D+ should make a point to watch all the old animated shorts from the late 20s through the 50s. I hadn't seen most of those since I was a young child, and they are absolutely fantastic. Wonderful animation and I legit laughed out loud many times.

e: also the Imagineers doc series is really good and interesting

I need to re-watch these. I remember watching them as a kid and thinking they were bland and unfunny compared to WB cartoons.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

Mammal Sauce posted:

I need to re-watch these. I remember watching them as a kid and thinking they were bland and unfunny compared to WB cartoons.

I always thought the opposite; more specifically, that the WB ones were cruder and more lowbrow. That’s probably partially explained by growing up in Sweden where Donald Duck is the state religion.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

doctorfrog posted:

what? Dumb. It was my go-to for when nearly all the rest of Netflix is uninteresting.

MST3K is also on Shoutfactory.

And if you have a Samsung tv, their TV+ free service has a 24/7 rifftrax channel.

McGurk
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

Is anyone else’s AppleTV+ app just garbage on Roku? There’s a weird bzzt noise no matter what I’m watching every 15 seconds and when ever the camera or scene changes the picture gets all distorted.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
Old Donald Duck cartoons rule. Donald Duck comics also rule.

And they were much more richly drawn than Looney Tunes (which I also love):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYEmL0d0lZE

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

TheManWithNoName posted:

Is anyone else’s AppleTV+ app just garbage on Roku? There’s a weird bzzt noise no matter what I’m watching every 15 seconds and when ever the camera or scene changes the picture gets all distorted.

I'd replug everything, sounds like HDMI to me but it could also be connection/their problem if it's just that one app doing it

E for the buzz, maybe also if you're using a sound system/external speaker, make sure your actual TV volume is all the way down

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

Old Donald Duck cartoons rule. Donald Duck comics also rule.

And they were much more richly drawn than Looney Tunes (which I also love):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYEmL0d0lZE

Highlighting the Old Mill is cheating, that’s flawless.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
I'm surprised no one made a Disney+ thread, or did they and I missed it.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
N/m

bort
Mar 13, 2003

mike12345 posted:

Yeah, I know what you mean. "trying too hard" is a good take, maybe that's what I don't like. Technically, all of its pieces are great: A story about MLM, set in the early 90s, Kirsten Dunst, Florida, takedown of the american dream etc. But somehow it doesn't work out. For me, the pacing is too slow. Some funny scenes, but maybe too much time devoted to side characters. Dunno. Also lol at Beth Ditto, didn't know.
It relies a little too much on Dunst's charm and her character's "gritty mom" determination to carry the show. It also seems as if it's being written as they're shooting, since it meanders thematically and has all these plot cul-de-sacs that just throw goofy obstacles in front of her. The showrunners obviously hitched on the popular elements -- cult, 80s nostalgia, dark comedies - and tried to throw together a representative cast. It lacks something serious to say, doesn't commit enough to the dark part of the comedy and can't hide its cards enough to be surprising.

I really wanted it to work. I love Kirsten Dunst, was really interested in them fleshing out Buffalo Bill's character, but it's too tedious to sit through the lukewarm monkeyshines.

e: had two articles where I needed only one :geno:

bort fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Dec 2, 2019

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Watched The Devil Next Door, a crime doc on Netflix about John Demjanjuk, a Ukrainian immigrant to America who was accused of being the infamous Nazi death camp guard, Ivan the Terrible. It's an interesting story and the doc presents both sides fairly while keeping the outcome (if you don't know it) a guessing game. I suggest not googling the guy and watching it cold but to give the gist, the KGB accuses Demjanjuk of being Ivan and turns over evidence to OSI. His citizenship is revoked and he is tried in Israel for war crimes as Ivan the Terrible. For every piece of evidence he is Ivan, there is an opposing piece of evidence suggesting he is not or at least discrediting the prosecution's evidence. The trial goes back and forth like this for a year.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The Irishman was some of the most meh poo poo I’ve ever watched.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


I thought The Irishman was quite good, but, yeah, you have to go into it ready for the older Scorsese that made Silence, who's interested in the ever-accumulating weight of sin, and not just the one who made Goodfellas and Casino, despite it being a return to mob movies.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


I'm fine with contemplative movies, and I actually liked Silence a lot, but the Irishman just feels weirdly devoid of any pathos or tension, maybe because the cast and timeframe are so sprawling that it's hard to feel attached to anyone but De Niro and Pacino.

For example, a ton of people get shot in the head in this movie, but the only one that you care about is Jimmy Hoffa. The rest are randos who had only been introduced moments before. Meanwhile, you know De Niro lives because you see him as an old man from the first scene, and you know Pacino is gonna eat it because he's Jimmy Hoffa. I dunno, if De Niro and Pacino are the heart of the movie, then why do we spend half the movie on side tangents that hardly matter and barely register emotionally?

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I’m just tired of mafia poo poo tbh. And the Irishman didn’t do anything new or interesting with the genre imo. It was fine I guess. It just felt like a longer version of what I’ve already seen 10 times before.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Class Warcraft posted:

I'm fine with contemplative movies, and I actually liked Silence a lot, but the Irishman just feels weirdly devoid of any pathos or tension, maybe because the cast and timeframe are so sprawling that it's hard to feel attached to anyone but De Niro and Pacino.

For example, a ton of people get shot in the head in this movie, but the only one that you care about is Jimmy Hoffa. The rest are randos who had only been introduced moments before. Meanwhile, you know De Niro lives because you see him as an old man from the first scene, and you know Pacino is gonna eat it because he's Jimmy Hoffa. I dunno, if De Niro and Pacino are the heart of the movie, then why do we spend half the movie on side tangents that hardly matter and barely register emotionally?

This is kinda what I'm getting at, though. It's easy to be like, there'll be no consequences for Frank Sheeran because we see him alive as an old man, but of course there are: his family and soul, which the film intertwines. By making it clear that he "gets away with it" in a way that Henry Hill and Sam Rothstein didn't, it centers the stakes on those consequences. It's a movie that takes a man's damnation, and not just material success or failure, as being something worthy of driving tension and pathos.

veni veni veni posted:

I’m just tired of mafia poo poo tbh. And the Irishman didn’t do anything new or interesting with the genre imo. It was fine I guess. It just felt like a longer version of what I’ve already seen 10 times before.

I'm curious what mafia movies you've seen that are focused so heavily on the themes I talk about in my previous paragraph, because I would like to check them out.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Every single crime film has the overreach and then the fall, it's pretty standard. I think that the "punishment" that the mob guys get is so disconnected from the Hoffa situation that its hard to feel like just desserts. Like if after the murder we had a couple scenes of them increasingly hounded, nervous, and harried by the law coming down on them meanwhile De Niro is basically an emotional wreck then it would have felt earned. Instead it literally goes from Hoffa's death to a montage of everyone getting arrested on unrelated charges and then De Niro hanging out with his buddies in prison.

The closest thing I'd compare it to is The Godfather movies but inferior in every way. Like compare Fredo's death with Hoffa's. It's no contest in my opinion.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Right. What’s not standard is the nature of Frank Sheeran’s fall. If it were a movie about people getting their worldly comeuppance—all those arrests you mention—it would be inferior to any number of mob movies. But it’s not about that.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
If you want something very different from The Irishman, 2002's Secretary just got put on Hulu.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Sir Kodiak posted:

Right. What’s not standard is the nature of Frank Sheeran’s fall. If it were a movie about people getting their worldly comeuppance—all those arrests you mention—it would be inferior to any number of mob movies. But it’s not about that.

It's not really that unique of an ending, Godfather III ends pretty much exactly the same way - with the main character old, unloved, and full of regrets - but the journey there is much more entertaining.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Class Warcraft posted:

It's not really that unique of an ending, Godfather III ends pretty much exactly the same way - with the main character old, unloved, and full of regrets - but the journey there is much more entertaining.

I felt like Irishman is the movie Godfather 3 wanted to be

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I mean what makes the Irishman interesting to me is that alongside the personal tragedy, you have the tragedy of the American labor movement getting undone by a bunch of greedy assholes who were more interested in enriching themselves- and how Hoffa, while certainly corrupted to some extent, was basically killed for not being corrupt enough.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Paul ReiserFS posted:

Looking forward to this lovely take being stretched over the next few pages of this thread

Correct takes are lovely now?

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