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Dude's a super-boomer so I was able to excuse some old-man-yells-at-cloud stuff, even if it was pretty drat questionable. This falls pretty squarely into "officially cancelled" territory, though. Any recommendations for less poo poo horror hosts to watch from now on?
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My horror friends dropped off him last month when wrote an article about how there were too many queer identities these days and back in my day queer was a slur, etc. Can we retroactively replace his comeback with Joe R. Lansdale hosting a horror movie marathon?
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I wonder if this gets vocal enough, if Shudder will weigh in? Hey maybe Elvira will finally get someone to pick her up!
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Post Ironic Cereal posted:Dude's a super-boomer so I was able to excuse some old-man-yells-at-cloud stuff, even if it was pretty drat questionable. This falls pretty squarely into "officially cancelled" territory, though. Sadly, Joe Bob is the only host that I know of that actually talks about the content, production, and history of the movies he hosts. Otherwise, Svengoolie is the only real old-school guy still being broadcast on TV, though YouTube is rife with (bad) horror hosts, and maybe there's some hidden gems that I haven't discovered yet. Take it as an opportunity to make your own! e: Off Beat Cinema is not good per se, but they've got the right spirit and it's a bit charming in its badness. Viewership is just way too low to sustain the format for unknown quantities though. Just found this guy on Vimeo who looks like he's trying and might be fun in a public access kinda way. There's also these guys who don't seem obnoxious and this looks pretty cute. These guys appear to have something resembling production values. Can't personally vouch for any of them but Off Beat, though. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Sep 9, 2019 |
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Yeah, it's a shame because Joe Bob has like 30+ years of deep industry knowledge, so it's just a joy to hear him ramble about movies.
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Sep 9, 2019 23:48
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Well, glad I never got around to checking out this Nazi piece of trash. Fuckin’ hell. Someone replace the OP with “is a piece of poo poo Nazi.”
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Man, that sucks. Makes me feel bad for Diana since she had been such a huge proponent for old school horror, and transitioning out of the porn industry successfully with helping get the show off the ground. 
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Sep 11, 2019 20:02
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She should be the host now. She’s clearly got the expertise. Hell, get Elvira to co-host if they need a big name or a big personality.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:She should be the host now. She’s clearly got the expertise. Hell, get Elvira to co-host if they need a big name or a big personality. She's insanely shy irl, and vapes a ton of weed for anxiety related issues. The reason she's pretty awesome as the mail girl is mainly due to someone else doing the heavy lifting and having the attention divided.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:54
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Hell, get my fat rear end up there. I look older than I am, drink too much Lone Star, and already live in Grapevine. Throw a western shirt on me and nobody'd be the wiser.
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Sep 11, 2019 22:42
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Elvira rules and I would throw down honest money to see her do her thing again with real production behind it.
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is anyone else like me and my only exposure to him was hosting a titty show on pay per view back in the day
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I was just aware that he hosted some show on TNT called "Monstervision", because I watched TNT a bit when I was a kid and I saw commercials for it all the time. Then I recognized him out-of-character as "John Bloom" on The Daily Show when he did a segment called "God Stuff". My one and only defense of this horrible shitshow with Taki's is that Briggs/Bloom seems to go where the money is, and keep in mind that his Charlottesville article was written before he got that sweet Shudder deal and made his big comeback. It feels like something he was commissioned to do because the Right loves Joe Bob Briggs (Texan, redneck persona, did a racism once which may/may not have been "in character"). They could've given him talking points and an outline and paid him by the word. But, you know, after hitting it big with the Shudder deal he could've broken it off with Taki's especially after his fans called him out on it but he continues to write for them and defend himself.
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Before that nazi poo poo I kind of figured he was at least leftish in the sense of being accepting of outcasts and pariahs instead of hooting and cheering when the cops break their heads open for opposing nazis.
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https://twitter.com/therealjoebob/status/1199802820289011712 Even if he's playing a character, it's a pretty lovely character since it's currently indistinguishable from actual unironic lovely white guy takes.
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Nov 29, 2019 06:28
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He’s being willfully ignorant so he can bitch about “woke” horror at this point. No politics in anything Carpenter, Hooper, Craven or Romero did? Bullshit, Joe Bob.
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I watched new Joe Bob and I thought he sucked. Just droning on and on with with these corny old man jokes while clearly reading off a promoter. I dunno, maybe he was always lovely?
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He's a South Park libertarian and that's not gonna change at this point.
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weekly font posted:He's a South Park libertarian and that's not gonna change at this point. But I mean, at least the South Park guys have kinda come around to saying "well, maybe capitalism really was the problem all along?". Joe Bob is still firmly stuck in the 90's neoliberal-tarian mindset of "people just need to buck up, bootstrap and all become entrepreneurs and quit whining". Like I don't think he's a full-blown Trumpist but I guarantee if he backed a candidate it'd be, I don't know, Andrew Yang or something.
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I'd bet he doesn't vote because it "doesn't change anything."
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feedmyleg posted:I'd bet he says he doesn't vote because it "doesn't change anything." and then votes republican
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Before that nazi poo poo I kind of figured he was at least leftish in the sense of being accepting of outcasts and pariahs instead of hooting and cheering when the cops break their heads open for opposing nazis.
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Sleeveless posted:https://twitter.com/therealjoebob/status/1199802820289011712 George Romero and John Carpenter: directors of films from the 70s and 80s with no blatantly obvious social or political commentary. That Takis article just ruined my whole day.
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King Vidiot posted:But I mean, at least the South Park guys have kinda come around to saying "well, maybe capitalism really was the problem all along?". Joe Bob is still firmly stuck in the 90's neoliberal-tarian mindset of "people just need to buck up, bootstrap and all become entrepreneurs and quit whining". Like I don't think he's a full-blown Trumpist but I guarantee if he backed a candidate it'd be, I don't know, Andrew Yang or something. He defended nazis, he's way past Trumpism.
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“I want my movies to have no message at all. Say nothing, mean nothing. Just an empty void.” Joe Bob Briggs is a loving idiot.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:She should be the host now. She’s clearly got the expertise. She argued that the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre is better than the original version and is therefore disqualified for life from being a horror host on this technicality alone. In hindsight, it was certainly a red flag when Joe Bob kept referring to her as a millennial. She's 40. InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Nov 29, 2019 |
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InfiniteZero posted:George Romero and John Carpenter: directors of films from the 70s and 80s with no blatantly obvious social or political commentary. In the reactionary world there are only two kinds of director: straight white male, and "political"
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InfiniteZero posted:In hindsight, it was certainly a red flag when Joe Bob kept referring to her as a millennial. She's 40. Yeah, even she was like "Well, maybe an elder millennial or something, I guess..." Kind of a lovely situation for her because she doesn't want to admit she's "older" on the air but she doesn't want to argue the point either. Joe Bob just has terrible interplay with every single woman on the show and you would think for someone who has been around for as long as he has he'd be less awkward. God dang, constantly bringing up penises with that Sleepaway Camp star is just so corny and uncomfortable every time even though it's a bit. And that episode with the woman from Reanimator was so heavily edited I can only imagine what the raw footage looked like, just a lot of long silences and two word answers I would bet. Timeless Appeal posted:It was an ideology of being opened minded that put your mere interaction with the marginalized as some sort of heroic feat that also meant that acceptance for people with some gross beliefs because acceptance in itself is the virtue. And that often meant not recognizing that you've absorbed some of those lovely beliefs. This hits the nail on the head perfectly and I think fits a lot of "open minded" people from his generation.
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Lurdiak posted:He defended nazis, he's way past Trumpism. The only way this relates to movies that I can see would be a perceived decline in exploitation cinema. But I'm sure there's just as much edgy weird poo poo out there as ever, and presumably made without the negative aspects of exploitation like racism/sexism/whatever the gently caress.
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This has nothing to do with Joe Bob, but I love the discussion of representation in early Troma movies a few characters have in Terror Firmer. Clip is  for random boobs walking through the shothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oADusLN5P0
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I know I've talked about this on the forums before, but man when I went to TromaFest it was harrowing to see how the crowd of Troma fans just completely missed the loving point on exactly that. Having to watch Kaufman try to explain to these stupid loving MAGA metalheads that no he doesn't think that Hollywood should be more racist and homophobic while trying to not directly insult his primary demo was super depressing. Also had to break a friend's heart about Joe Bob's politics the other day. That was a bummer.
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Anti-PC people have zero self-awareness and really, really thin skin. And they have no concept of when broad comedy is actually funny and when it's hurtful. I think broad, offensive and absurd comedy has a place in the world, I think being shocking and pushing boundaries is fine. But there's a fine line these days where it's hard to tell someone's intent, specifically because there are actual white supremacists that use those exact same tactics except they mean every word of it. And I hate to hear that Troma's fan base has changed, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. There's a lot of crossover there with South Park and we know that there's a not-insignificant amount of South Park fans who are pretty far to the right, so I suppose it was a matter of time before they moved over to Troma. It's just loving weird because Lloyd Kaufman is a Bernie supporting New York Jew, like do any of these MAGA guys even know who he is outside of the movies he makes?
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Yeah, seeing Kaufman's heart breaking on stage was definitely the worst part. But agreed, I think there is absolutely a place for offensive or edgy boundary-pushing stuff, and just like that clip states that place is when you're using it to illustrate a larger point or make your audience uncomfortable to some end. Using it purposefully and with intent is good. Just throwing out the n word because you know it gets a reaction is not.
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I’ve never been more excited to hear that there’s a tromafest and never more disappointed that lovely bigoted assholes ruined it.
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I mean, it's generally a bummer when you meet other horror fans. But yeah these were the worst of the worst, though I think there were also a bunch of quiet dweebs there. But not what you want TromaFest to be.
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Horror fans are either the coolest people you'll ever meet or absolute "triggered, snowflake?" garbage, there doesn't seem to be any in-between (see: the subject of this thread.) Sucks to hear TromaFest has a lot of the latter, otherwise it's a convention I might actually be interested in going to.
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