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I exclusively buy Monster HDMI cables  It just so happens that they show up regularly at a local dollar shop chain and are by far the cheapest cables I can find.
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taqueso posted:Selling the fancy cables must work, unfortunately The margins will make you believe
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Some dude on AVS is having a straight up meltdownquote:I am not going to reply to every post, I don't trust ANY of your words, because you all advocate
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Ridicule Audiophiles: Anyone with basic knowledge knows the speakers should be at least 1.5 times the cost of the power amp or more
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Dec 3, 2019 19:36
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You are silent like speaker only 1.2 times the cost of the power amp.
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Dec 3, 2019 19:45
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I believe the amp he’s referring to is a $3000 Benchmark which has 0.0003% THD and 135 dB of measured dynamic range so obviously if you connected that to speakers that cost a mere 2000 dollars it will sound like hot garbage and won’t be able to resolve the nuance of a 10 grand speaker cable
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He seemed pretty level headed in the beginning, but that amp/speaker cost ratio thing destroyed it all.
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I don't feel like wading back into that cesspool of a thread but the base point is some people have [rightly] pointed out that expensive cables have never been shown through testing to sound better, or even different enough to be identified at more than random chance so this dude does everything he can to point out that testing is wrong and keeps quoting papers from the 80s written by people who sell fancy audio cables about measured cable differences [all observed at frequencies several orders of magnitude away from audio] and the ultimate no true audiophile card of criticizing the equipment used in the tests as being pedestrian "mid-fi" stuff also name-calling quote:Sure, I really trust you.
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qirex posted:Some dude on AVS is having a straight up meltdown Link? I love reading meltdowns. qirex posted:I believe the amp he’s referring to is a $3000 Benchmark which has 0.0003% THD and 135 dB of measured dynamic range so obviously if you connected that to speakers that cost a mere 2000 dollars it will sound like hot garbage and won’t be able to resolve the nuance of a 10 grand speaker cable It is a pretty sweet amp, though. I look forward to the THX AAA design making its way into other amps.
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I'm not going to post a link to avoid a dogpile but it's in the 2 channel forumTheMadMilkman posted:It is a pretty sweet amp, though. I look forward to the THX AAA design making its way into other amps.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Ridicule Audiophiles: Anyone with basic knowledge knows the speakers should be at least 1.5 times the cost of the power amp or more ”a very not mad audiophile” posted:You the one that gave me that link? No, not only studio monitor, it's only $2000. Everyone know you need speakers something roughly like double the cost of the power amp. You don't test $10K amp with $2k speaker. I don't use my $1100 Kef to test to test my Nakamichi and my amps and make any conclusion as this would be very dishonest and miss leading on my part. Thread also features him trying to attack people by demanding that they reveal the price of their gear, bragging about the price of his, claiming that if only they had ears as golden as his they’d be able to hear what he hears, and so forth. Couldn’t be more clear that for him it’s a hobby about looking down on peons who can’t buy or appreciate the really expensive stuff. Also claims to have designed and built great amps on his own, which is amusing and I’m gonna guess that they’re actually terrible because he hasn’t tried to measure their performance in any objective way
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New Audiophile Conundrum: If God themselves invented a poweramp, could they also invent a set of speakers of 1.5x the cost to compliment it?
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Even if he did, would it be up to the standards of "a very not mad audiophile"'s ears?
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God did invent the ur-sound system. All i need to do to feel right next to the live band sound is play my guitar shittily in my bedroom. Pure audio nirvana.
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Literally everything in this LTT video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT3SInHr9ck
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Everything in every LTT video is terrible.
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The perfect headphones if you want to look like a Doctor Who bad guy
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Cat5 and cat 5e don't make a great speaker cables. This was a thing like 15 years ago or something. You braid enough cables that you end up with 10 gauge or so. I made a pair at the time because it gave me something to do during an Alaskan winter while I was sitting in front of the TV and I wanted to prove that they were nonsense, but I never used them long term because they’re so stiff and bulky. I probably still have them in a drawer somewhere. https://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html bird with big dick fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/uptone-audio-etherregen-switch-review.10232/ $640 audiophile-grade ethernet switch, sure why not
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Surprised it's so cheap tbh
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abelwingnut posted:guys
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I mean, that's pretty loving cool though. It's a literal wall of sound. $17000 is definitely a stupid amount of money, but you're getting floor to ceiling speakers. I could probably do worse building a PA system of equal size.
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Outing myself as the audiophile here but if I hit the Powerball I will absolutely have grossly overbuilt speakers
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Panty Saluter posted:Outing myself as the audiophile here but if I hit the Powerball I will absolutely have grossly overbuilt speakers Same except good-sounding small ones that cost like 2000€. Is Amphion still around?
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Anyone who's reading this thread at least aspires to be an audiophile, promising ourselves we'd stop at the "correct" level of madness. For me, it's probably these (right now): https://www.luxussound.com/en/bang-olufsen/speakers/beolab-90.html
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pzy posted:Anyone who's reading this thread at least aspires to be an audiophile, promising ourselves we'd stop at the "correct" level of madness. gently caress that, I'm not looking to buy anything. I invested around 400€ in a record player more than ten years ago, and got the very cheapest Denon stereo amplifier cum radio available twenty years ago (I think it was 1 690 marks, who knows what that is in euros*). Everything else I've gotten either from the recycling centre for less than 10€ or for free. And I'm pretty convinced my set-up sounds as good as if not way better than anything I've seen ITT. *) Less than 300€, not adjusted
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I agree, my system is cobbled together too and I think it sounds great. I'm just saying if money suddenly was no consideration, everyone ITT would make at least one dream "audiophile" upgrade purchase. Usually speakers. Or maybe those headphones that made Linus cry.
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pzy posted:I agree, my system is cobbled together too and I think it sounds great. I'm just saying if money suddenly was no consideration, everyone ITT would make at least one dream "audiophile" upgrade purchase. Usually speakers. Or maybe those headphones that made Linus cry. It's impossible for me to upgrade my record player as it's an SL-1200Mk2. But like I said I'd like smaller good speakers because this house was not built for loudspeakers and my current (free) ones are huge. You can listen to them at low volume and they sound great but I guess because they are on the floor the sound gets everywhere, including the neighbour's apartment. An amplifier is good enough if it has the necessary number of inputs  e: Actually I guess if I hit the jackpot I'd just move and make do with the huge speakers! 3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Dec 7, 2019 |
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If I had the coin I'd just buy a set of those weird looking B&O flagship speakers and be done with it tbh. They sound better than anything I currently have and look pretty rad too.
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Revel Ultima2 Salons for me. Maybe the big Focals. I’ve never heard the Beolabs, but I’ve heard great things about them. B&O obviously makes luxury goods, but their designers appear to follow good engineering principles. The basics really are simple. Big, symmetrical room, treated as needed (thick carpet and furniture is often all you need). Speakers with good frequency response and dispersion. Enough power to avoid amplifier clipping. An accurate volume control. Multiple subwoofers. If I had infinite funds, though, I would get into some of the stupid stuff. Reel to reel. SACD 5.1 mixes. Massive amplifiers. Because why not? It’s fun, and I can respect people who do it for fun. It’s claiming superiority and being able to hear minute differences based on whether your home grounding is buried vertically or horizontally (this was a big discussion on WBF) that deserves ridicule.
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symmetry good, parallel surfaces bad. got those all confabulated for a minute 
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I mean, if we’re talking unlimited funds, you just build a room that’s at least 28.5 feet in each dimension.
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buy an old theater and renovate the office to use as a living space. problem solved
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How are you supposed to get the sub in if you don't build the foundation?
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Use the stage as an infinite baffle
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ItBreathes posted:How are you supposed to get the sub in if you don't build the foundation?  
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It may be funny but that dude can play thunderstorms with incredible accuracy and fidelity.
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I just want enough money for a decent vocal/instrument recording booth and some professional sound treatment. Okay, I'm lying. I'd totally build a floating room in my basement with its own conditioned power inputs, in addition to all of the above.
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redeyes posted:It may be funny but that dude can play thunderstorms with incredible accuracy and fidelity. Not anymore he can’t. (Dude was pretty seriously mentally ill and killed himself).
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