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Imagine if comedians from all directions were laughing and making fun of how super-seriously some people take themselves. You would think that might give those people a moment of introspection - but no - their cause du jour is off-limits, like every cunting puritan ever. Anything they don't like is fair game though.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Also that Daria is right on time with her mom on picking up the phone when a substitute teacher is an obvious paedophile. That scene's also great because substitute plotlines in shows usually feature that one cool substitute who "gets it" and isn't all stuffy like the other teachers and gives one-on-one attention so that you learn to care about History/English (Its never Science or Math). And in this show that cool substitute is super-obviously doing it to try to groom his students and is out the door before minute 5.
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Nov 16, 2019 14:51
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What if the one Jewish guy in the writers’ room is Stephen Miller? You obviously need two Jewish writers to balance out any extreme self loathing. Also why you should never have only one Catholic on the creative team.
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Nov 16, 2019 15:07
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I really like the timing on that Daria scene, too. Somethinga bout the way it plays out gets me every time.
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Nov 18, 2019 21:23
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Pudding Space posted:Imagine if comedians from all directions were laughing and making fun of how super-seriously some people take themselves. You would think that might give those people a moment of introspection - but no - their cause du jour is off-limits, like every cunting puritan ever. Anything they don't like is fair game though. But that’s the lamest and easiest humor. The very idea that we shouldn’t take things seriously is insanely stupid and for the most most comedians don’t agree with that. The idea that there are things that aren’t off limits never rings true even for South Park as an example
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Nov 18, 2019 21:50
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CharlestheHammer posted:The very idea that we shouldn’t take things seriously is insanely stupid and for the most most comedians don’t agree with that. The idea that there are things that aren’t off limits never rings true even for South Park as an example It's actually hilarious and perfect to 14year olds
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Nov 19, 2019 01:55
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For a project I’m working on - can anyone think of any old 1950’s/60’s tv episodes/scenes that feel particularly propaganda-y or otherwise bootlicky
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Dec 4, 2019 16:31
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Calico Heart posted:For a project I’m working on - can anyone think of any old 1950’s/60’s tv episodes/scenes that feel particularly propaganda-y or otherwise bootlicky Dragnet was a treasure trove. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy_lCjA6poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZo2hhvvlpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wri3CHjfQRM
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Dec 4, 2019 18:51
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Calico Heart posted:For a project I’m working on - can anyone think of any old 1950’s/60’s tv episodes/scenes that feel particularly propaganda-y or otherwise bootlicky There’s that Star Trek where Captain Kirk is disgusted by hippies and then the hippies take over the ship and die from their hypocritical attitude toward society.
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Dec 4, 2019 18:54
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WescottF1 posted:Dragnet was a treasure trove.
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Dec 4, 2019 18:58
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Not the right time period, but the Quincy punk episode
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Dec 4, 2019 19:34
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FilthyImp posted:It's funny how Dragnet is now framed as tackling the gritty post-war period. I guess a bunch of vets flooding back led to crimewaves and gangs and motorcycle toughs. Dragnet got surprisingly dark sometimes. Iirc one of the first episodes is about a guy who abducts and molests two kids.
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Dec 4, 2019 19:44
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Calico Heart posted:For a project I’m working on - can anyone think of any old 1950’s/60’s tv episodes/scenes that feel particularly propaganda-y or otherwise bootlicky you should probably look up old toy commercials i remember there were some commercials for toy guns that got pretty iffy since they were selling the things, to like... 6 year olds (?), by framing it with the glories of war/national service
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Dec 4, 2019 21:24
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Calico Heart posted:For a project I’m working on - can anyone think of any old 1950’s/60’s tv episodes/scenes that feel particularly propaganda-y or otherwise bootlicky In addition to the hippie episode mentioned, there's also the episode of Star Trek where the good guys beat the Savage communists using the flag and constitution of the United States.
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Dec 4, 2019 21:39
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Ack-chewally, that ep had the Americans (Yangs) as savages and the Chinese (Cohms) as fairly peaceful agrarians who were being slaughtered. After being taken by the Yang leader, Kirk tells them that "We, the people" means everybody, including the Cohms. And stop being dicks. Yes, yes, trap sprung.
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Dec 4, 2019 22:59
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Casey Finnigan posted:Either way, the South Park guys have this take: the attitudes of certain kinds of car-drivers are annoying enough that it merits producing an entire episode of a TV show about it, but people who are upset at our racism are just oversensitive fools. Another example would be the time they were so incensed by Family Guy's existence that they had to make a whole episode about how it sucks (it does suck, but South Park is not really much better). Or when they named an episode "Roger Ebert needs to lay off the fatty foods" after he gave a bad review to their dogshit movie BASEketball, which they admit is a lovely movie. Sure, they're nihilists, about things that don't impact them at all, but seriously - most of their show is Parker and Stone being given an enormous platform to air petty grievances.
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Dec 4, 2019 23:25
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WescottF1 posted:Dragnet was a treasure trove. Even in the context of its time "people die in car accidents so you can't be upset about kids getting drafted to Vietnam" is still one hell of a bizarre take.
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Dec 4, 2019 23:31
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WescottF1 posted:Dragnet was a treasure trove. They’re still better than today’s conservatives because they acknowledge that the holocaust happened. It is interesting that their criticisms of these boomers is identical to the boomer criticisms of the zoomers.
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Dec 5, 2019 00:16
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That said, the lost/greatest generation were absolutely correct in their condemnation of the Baby Boomers.
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Dec 5, 2019 00:33
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Well, they were right to hate them. Everyone is right to hate them, which is why everyone does.
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Dec 5, 2019 00:47
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:There’s that Star Trek where Captain Kirk is disgusted by hippies and then the hippies take over the ship and die from their hypocritical attitude toward society. hm, yes, that one seems really far-fetched
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Dec 5, 2019 04:52
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:There’s that Star Trek where Captain Kirk is disgusted by hippies and then the hippies take over the ship and die from their hypocritical attitude toward society. The funny part is that Spock gets along with them fine and even joins in the jam session.
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Dec 5, 2019 05:38
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The funny part is that Spock gets along with them fine and even joins in the jam session. Spock can have a little jam session
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Dec 5, 2019 06:19
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I wonder if it's revenge that the Betazoids are basically a planet of psychic hippies. I haven't actually seen the episode myself but got the impression the hippies are meant to be portrayed as tragic, but I might be entirely wrong.
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Dec 5, 2019 06:53
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:There’s that Star Trek where Captain Kirk is disgusted by hippies and then the hippies take over the ship and die from their hypocritical attitude toward society. They don't die because of their attitude towards society, they die because their leader led them to a planet where everything was toxic including the grass. Chekov was the one with the biggest chip on his shoulder about them, Kirk was just annoyed they chose his ship to take over.
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Dec 5, 2019 06:57
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The funny part is that Spock gets along with them fine and even joins in the jam session. Is this the one where Spock says he was happy for the first time in his life and the crew is just like "huh, oh well"
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Dec 5, 2019 16:49
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Another TOS episode is "A Private Little War", which was intended as a Vietnam War allegory by the screenwriter. In it the Klingons provide firearms to one tribe, so Kirk decides to give guns to their enemies so they can fight off their assailants. The Vietnamese people in this allegory are, instead of a former colony with modern knowlege, agrarian savages who haven't even invented gunpowder. Perhaps the one saving grace is that the Federation are, if you squint, the USSR/China in the allegory.
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Dec 5, 2019 19:05
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I've been watching a bunch of Hell's Kitchen and the part that doesn't age well is going through the "where are they now" sites and seeing all the deaths and drug issues. Surprisingly there's a lot of drug use in kitchen staff.
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Dec 5, 2019 19:34
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WescottF1 posted:Dragnet was a treasure trove. There is so much to dissect here. Instant orange juice is ruining the youth! Hitler killed six million people so don't try to make America better! What the christ. 
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Dec 5, 2019 19:37
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Push El Burrito posted:I've been watching a bunch of Hell's Kitchen and the part that doesn't age well is going through the "where are they now" sites and seeing all the deaths and drug issues. Surprisingly there's a lot of drug use in kitchen staff. You've never worked in a restaurant have you? Everyone is high
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Dec 5, 2019 19:40
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Iron Crowned posted:You've never worked in a restaurant have you? Yeah I have. Which is also why I'm not surprised like over half of everyone on the show sits around smoking after the kitchen closes.
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Push El Burrito posted:I've been watching a bunch of Hell's Kitchen and the part that doesn't age well is going through the "where are they now" sites and seeing all the deaths and drug issues. Surprisingly there's a lot of drug use in kitchen staff. Hell's Kitchen hasn't aged well because he hasn't had one restaurant where he had to deal with the drama of one of the cooks sleeping with multiple servers and it coming to light on a shift they're all working/getting busted for dealing drugs/shows up high as hell but is still the best cook on the line so you gotta make do.
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duck trucker posted:Hell's Kitchen hasn't aged well because he hasn't had one restaurant where he had to deal with the drama of one of the cooks sleeping with multiple servers and it coming to light on a shift they're all working/getting busted for dealing drugs/shows up high as hell but is still the best cook on the line so you gotta make do. You're getting Hell's Kitchen confused with Kitchen Nightmares. Unsurprising, considering he's very committed to his branding of always having "Hell" or "Kitchen" in the title.
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Dec 5, 2019 21:50
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Sir Lemming posted:You're getting Hell's Kitchen confused with Kitchen Nightmares. Unsurprising, considering he's very committed to his branding of always having "Hell" or "Kitchen" in the title. poo poo you're right. Hell's Kitchen never had a better season then the season where the stoner who broke his hand in the first or second episode and could only cook one handed the rest of the season won.
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Dec 5, 2019 22:06
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duck trucker posted:poo poo you're right. Look at this person who never heard of Sterling.  But, yeah, Dave ruled because he sounded exactly like Dax Shepard's character from Idiocracy.
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Dec 5, 2019 22:18
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Vandar posted:There is so much to dissect here. My favourite was the final line. "America has worked for 400 years, and by the world's standards, it's hardly more than yesterday." Supposed to be saying America is doing stuff right, but it came off to me as "Our glorious society is a statistically insignificant blip that might just be coincidence" Then again, the very start with it's list of improvements like living conditions, education, healthcare and employment might as well be a laundry list of things boomers are stopping the next generations from having.
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Push El Burrito posted:I've been watching a bunch of Hell's Kitchen and the part that doesn't age well is going through the "where are they now" sites and seeing all the deaths and drug issues. Surprisingly there's a lot of drug use in kitchen staff. That isn't surprising at all to anybody who has worked in the restaurant industry for more than a day. If you aren't an addict before you start the job will make you one. And really, nobody parties harder than restaurant people. Nobody.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:That isn't surprising at all to anybody who has worked in the restaurant industry for more than a day. If you aren't an addict before you start the job will make you one. Someone hasn't seen the breaks at the steel mill.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:That isn't surprising at all to anybody who has worked in the restaurant industry for more than a day. If you aren't an addict before you start the job will make you one. Someone hasn’t worked in a college library
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Push El Burrito posted:Someone hasn't seen the breaks at the steel mill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDztq1wFZvA
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