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leftist heap posted:As someone who just had a baby, lol. TBF I had a decent bit of time gaming early one (played through DQ11 on the Switch), but certainly not at the fuckin hospital that's just laughable. But it's been 3 months now and it's much, much harder to find gaming time. Don't worry, it'll only be another 12 years.
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God I can't even imagine the looks you'd get from the hospital staff if you were there for the delivery of your own child and you asked them "hey do you think the wifi here is fast n stable enough for Google Stadia?"
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gschmidl posted:Don't worry, it'll only be another 12 years. Cool maybe Stadia will be good by then 
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CJacobs posted:God I can't even imagine the looks you'd get from the hospital staff if you were there for the delivery of your own child and you asked them "hey do you think the wifi here is fast n stable enough for Google Stadia?" They'll all stand up and applaud once they see RDR2 in 4K on your Pixel phone
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What's that honey, you're dilated 4cm? That's cool, but check out Samurai Shodown streaming in 4K
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Again, how is this any different from a Base player who pays for a game once and has it forever? I say the F2P model actually makes MORE sense than that for Stadia.
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Gobbeldygook posted:Because the overwhelming majority of people don't do that. Some dude playing Rise of the Tomb Raider over and over isn't going to bother Google when almost everyone else paid $40, beat it in 25 hours, and then bought something else. If that's true then there's no good argument for why F2P isn't viable on Stadia, and it's absolutely baffling that they didn't get a few F2P games on there, especially because it's the perfect way for people to try out the service (once Base is available to everyone). Also there are $20 games on Stadia Base, and possibly will be cheaper games in the future. I wonder how much play it would take of those before the profits are nullified? Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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You guys laught, but a gamer is very useful in a hospital. We have the ability to rez anyone using a space bar.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:If that's true then there's no good argument for why F2P isn't viable on Stadia, and it's absolutely baffling that they didn't get a few F2P games on there, especially because it's the perfect way for people to try out the service (once Base is available to everyone).
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Cardiovorax posted:Free-to-play games tend to get by on people buying peripheral stuff or accessories. Running the hardware so that someone can play a F2P game on their free service forever (cause people tend to sink hundreds of hours into those the exclusion of almost anything else) and where any in-game purchases go into someone elses pocket may just be something they don't consider financially viable. They'd basically be paying out the nose both coming and going. Nah, free games share the profit with the platform. So if you buy V-bucks for fortnite in PSN, both Sony and Epic see profit. Also they can limit Stadia to "Founder packages", so if you want to play a World of Tanks on Stadia you would have to buy the 40$ founder pack first.
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Cardiovorax posted:Free-to-play games tend to get by on people buying peripheral stuff or accessories. Running the hardware so that someone can play a F2P game on their free service forever (cause people tend to sink hundreds of hours into those the exclusion of almost anything else) and where any in-game purchases go into someone elses pocket may just be something they don't consider financially viable. They'd basically be paying out the nose both coming and going. I know I'm starting to sound very circular here, but buying games on Stadia Base has the exact same issue. The purchase of the game goes into someone else's pocket, minus Googles' cut. At least with F2P there are things people can continue to buy as they play (and give Google a cut).
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But it doesn't costs Sony anything whether you play 10 or 1000 hours of Fortnite
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Yeah it's normal for F2P games to have revenue sharing between relevant parties. Unless you are on PC and downloaded the game client direct from the company's website (and it doesn't connect to anyone else's service to run), somebody besides them is getting a piece of that pie when you spend money.
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leftist heap posted:But it doesn't costs Sony anything whether you play 10 or 1000 hours of Fortnite True, and it cost money to Google. The whole thing (game has streaming) is a bad idea.
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A lot of the big F2P games are on phone anyway or are unplayable without a mouse and keyboard
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Cowman posted:A lot of the big F2P games are on phone anyway or are unplayable without a mouse and keyboard Fortnite is pretty good about this, wherever you login the character is the same, and the matchmaking is according to input type, and you can even switch from controller to kb/mouse on same device.
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Is Free-tier stadia open to Brazillians? I want a million players from the worst behaved online playerbase to snuff out the ~15k active Founders with game spam hell.
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Cowman posted:A lot of the big F2P games are on phone anyway or are unplayable without a mouse and keyboard Nah, Google could offer F2P games in a way that could be a homerun for them: Rotten Red Rod posted:Here, I'll re-write Google's Stadia launch: Not everyone has a computer or console that can play Destiny 2. Now, suddenly, everyone can play it, completely for free, on their browser on any potato PC. That is indeed pretty cool. Fornite would probably be a pretty odd fit, but if you have a crappy laptop and really want to play it there instead of a phone...
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Celexi posted:the free tier is not open to anyone yet And we don't even know if anyone other than Pro subscribers will get to play Destiny on Stadia. It has no price on the store, yet.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Nah, Google could offer F2P games in a way that could be a homerun for them: I meant more that since a lot of the big F2P games are on mobile devices to start with, what advantage would Stadia offer? If you tried to play Fortnite on your phone through Stadia what advantage would that offer over just playing it on the phone? Storage space maybe?
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Cowman posted:I meant more that since a lot of the big F2P games are on mobile devices to start with, what advantage would Stadia offer? If you tried to play Fortnite on your phone through Stadia what advantage would that offer over just playing it on the phone? Storage space maybe? It would be in 4k, duh
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Cowman posted:I meant more that since a lot of the big F2P games are on mobile devices to start with, what advantage would Stadia offer? If you tried to play Fortnite on your phone through Stadia what advantage would that offer over just playing it on the phone? Storage space maybe? For Fortnite, no, it wouldn't make any sense to play it on Stadia over your phone. But being able to play Fortnite from absolutely any computer through a browser? That is pretty neat, and a thing people would conceivably want to do. And just about any other F2P game that isn't normally playable on a phone suddenly can be as well.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Again, how is this any different from a Base player who pays for a game once and has it forever? I say the F2P model actually makes MORE sense than that for Stadia. It isn't any different. If the only long-term audience that Stadia attracts are people who don't subscribe to Pro, only buy one or two games a year, but still play a decent number of hours per week, then Stadia will shut down in less than 1442 days. Stadia is already looking for the big spenders to offset the cost, what else do you think selling a chromestick and controller for $135 was for? The fact that Stadia has had a restricted rollout that people had to pre-order for an inflated price to play day 1, and that the date for going wide with the "anyone can play without a sub" is still ???, those things should tell you that they're still working on the capacity problem. They can't support another layer of whales-subsidizing-minnows from f2p.
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imo that's the #1 reason they went with the pricing model they did. Maximum returns for minimum spent. Free service = tons of people try it once, clog up the servers, don't pay for anything except maybe 1 game, then never touch it again. Costs money upfront = fewer people overall try it so less needs to be spent on overhead, and those that do are likely to stick around and spend more money.
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https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1202757928421220353 Stadia store is live on web now, don't need the app to buy games anymore
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hostile apostle posted:https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1202757928421220353 GJ stadia team on releasing something that should've been there at launch.
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leftist heap posted:Can I check out the store page without an account now Nope, need a buddy pass or have to buy a bundle
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Pretty cool that they won’t let prospective customers browse the shop to see if the catalog might be something they wish to partake in Just another good decision by the fine people at Google
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Awesome work Stadia team, bonuses all round for your pinnacle achievement, getting a storefront running on the world wide web. oops. Oh well, the bonuses are still on their way, as storefront testing was someone else's 20% time project.
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Never forget about Stadia. In many years when the last ember from this dumpster fire flickers off, remember that Google failed to have a storefront ready at launch in 2019 and when it did finally come out it was broken. Remember this for the next time Google tries to assure everyone that they are really good at computers.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:GJ stadia team on releasing something that should've been there at launch. can't spell stadia without agile
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Again, how is this any different from a Base player who pays for a game once and has it forever? I say the F2P model actually makes MORE sense than that for Stadia. Anything we say about the business model is pure speculation because nothing about Stadia makes any sense. So trying to figure out if the F2P model would be less insane than the current model requires us to make a whole pile of guesses about Stadia’s capital and ongoing costs to Google, the giant’s willingness to write off either of those costs to gain market share, whether the controllers etc were loss leaders and on and on. We don’t really have any idea. The F2P models relies on the marginal costs of additional players being very low and the willingness of whales to pay being very high. Stadia is certainly more expensive to run than an F2P server with client rendering. More expensive enough to make the marginal cost of players too high to support F2P model? Who knows. So far, Google doesn’t want to find out.
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Yeah admittedly I wasn't really trying to work anything out, just a thought exercise to demonstrate how little Google has actually thought this out.
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Honestly they should have had a store ready pre launch
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STAFYRE FESTIVAL
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limaCAT posted:STAFYRE FESTIVAL 
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well why not posted:Honestly they should have had a store ready pre launch This is such a boring and conventional opinion. Try and think outside the box for once in your life.
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American McGay posted:This is such a boring and conventional opinion. Try and think outside the box for once in your life. They should have destroyed international capitalism by purchasing a mass block of goods and services and offering them from free, leaving other companies unable to compete and leading to the collapse of the world economy.
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