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feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Literally never heard of it, but it looks great. Hot tip.

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Holy poo poo I just finally got around to watching Aniara and I only wish I'd watched it sooner. Good science fiction is always in short supply.

I think It's my favorite movie of 2019 along with The Lighthouse. Everyone should watch it.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Holy poo poo I just finally got around to watching Aniara and I only wish I'd watched it sooner. Good science fiction is always in short supply.

Where did you find this, it's not on Netflix

rzal
Nov 8, 2007

Looks like it is on hulu

Alienwarez
Feb 9, 2004

veni veni veni posted:

I think It's my favorite movie of 2019 along with The Lighthouse. Everyone should watch it.

I literally just finished this within the last hour, and it was captivating. I don't necessarily think everyone should watch it, but if you like sci-fi and enjoy a plot that takes some dark turns it will definitely be right up your alley. Don't expect to come out the other end in any sort of a cheerful mood.

What was up with the planet at the end? It seems like it is either a planet in the Lyra Constellation or it is Earth after the ship has slingshotted around the "stellar body" and finally returned home after millions of years. When they leave Earth at the beginning it is totally grey and dead looking, but the planet at the end is green and looks "alive." It made for a nice cinematic bookend I thought.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


I put on my big boy pants and cleared 4 hours for The Irishman and it was good.

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Alienwarez posted:

I literally just finished this within the last hour, and it was captivating. I don't necessarily think everyone should watch it, but if you like sci-fi and enjoy a plot that takes some dark turns it will definitely be right up your alley. Don't expect to come out the other end in any sort of a cheerful mood.

What was up with the planet at the end? It seems like it is either a planet in the Lyra Constellation or it is Earth after the ship has slingshotted around the "stellar body" and finally returned home after millions of years. When they leave Earth at the beginning it is totally grey and dead looking, but the planet at the end is green and looks "alive." It made for a nice cinematic bookend I thought.
Wow I really loved this movie!

I took the whole ship going off course story to be about the Mimarobe losing control of her life and just sitting around waiting for something to come along and change the course of it. I felt like the end was making a bit of a dark joke about that. It's like, yeah, something might come along eventually if you just sit around! But it might take 5 million years. The slingshotting around a celestial body probably couldn't have happened; even if it was ever a feasible plan I'd have to imagine they'd need active crew to handle it. I basically took it as showing that, yes, there is some kind of hope off in the distance!...but it's so far away that it's almost laughable, and completely irrelevant to us.

Martman fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Dec 6, 2019

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Although I really liked the ending, I'm honestly not 100% sure what to make of it. At first I also thought it was Earth, which had regenerated itself, and that the ship had doubled back. But it shows that the ship has reached the Lyra constellation right before. So presumably they are 25 light years from earth.

I think Martman has the right idea and I think it all kind of fits in with the themes throughout the movie of living in the now, holding on to what you love, and man's insignificance in the grand scheme of things. It's hard to say for sure. I think the probe fits into this as well, which is another part I liked a lot, but was left feeling a bit stumped by. Devoting such a notable amount of the film to building up everyone's hopes , just to have it turn out to be a hunk of useless space junk took balls of steel.

snoot
Jun 8, 2006

danger lurks everywhere
The Onion avclub did a long write up on Aniara:
https://film.avclub.com/a-sci-fi-film-that-has-it-all-outer-space-european-en-1839946172

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008
How long has Booksmart been on Hulu, because it's on there and I am finally watching it

eighty-four merc
Dec 22, 2010


In 2020, we're going to make the end of Fight Club real.
If you liked Aniara and are in the mood for something thematically similar, High Life is very good and was on prime last I checked

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006
My absolute favorite part about Aniara was that the ship interior really reminded me of Baltic Sea cruise ship. Perfectly executed production design.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Lastdancer posted:

How long has Booksmart been on Hulu, because it's on there and I am finally watching it

About a week after I paid to rent it on Amazon.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

DanTheFryingPan posted:

My absolute favorite part about Aniara was that the ship interior really reminded me of Baltic Sea cruise ship. Perfectly executed production design.

So it wasnt filmed on a Baltic cruise ship?

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE
Amy Sedaris is in the new Mandolorian episode :3:

rich thick and creamy
May 23, 2005

To whip it, Whip it good
Pillbug
Looking through Prime and I think I'll make it a Ken Russell appreciation night. They got Lair of the White Worm and Salome's Last Dance! They also got Gothic yet I always saw that vhs on the shelf at the rental store back in the day but there was always something else I wanted to watch more so it stayed put. Honestly, I still can't muster the interest.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

This article informed me that Malcolm X is now on Netflix. Neat.

Tagichatn
Jun 7, 2009

Field Mousepad posted:

Amy Sedaris is in the new Mandolorian episode :3:

And Ming Na Wen! Also she's close to 60 years old, goddamn.

bort
Mar 13, 2003

I found The Irishman exhausting. Scorsese's needledrops are so tired, and his choices are so predictable. All the dialog is in this ridiculous code that almost seems improvised at this point, since all of these actors have hundreds of hours playing what’s essentially the same character. By far the best, freshest performance in the whole thing is Jim Norton's cameo as Don Rickles.

I hope this is his elegy to the romanticized mob and we can get over this love affair with sociopaths. Mob chic costuming, excess porn, the savvy working class quip by the ignoramus, piles of money, the no longer shocking brief brutality, dis is owah thing: okay, okay we get it.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

bort posted:

I found The Irishman exhausting. Scorsese's needledrops are so tired, and his choices are so predictable. All the dialog is in this ridiculous code that almost seems improvised at this point, since all of these actors have hundreds of hours playing what’s essentially the same character. By far the best, freshest performance in the whole thing is Jim Norton's cameo as Don Rickles.

I hope this is his elegy to the romanticized mob and we can get over this love affair with sociopaths. Mob chic costuming, excess porn, the savvy working class quip by the ignoramus, piles of money, the no longer shocking brief brutality, dis is owah thing: okay, okay we get it.

This is why I've never liked mafia movies. It's the same story of a rise to power, fall due to hubris, celebration of excess, blah blah blah. I get why some people like it, I can't watch them though. Romanticizing the mob feels gross to me; at least when we do it with pirates there's a few hundred years removed there.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


I watched the movie Prospect on hulu. It's about a low budget sci-fi movie about a father-daughter team that land on a dangerous gold-rush world to try and make it rich. It's got a really cool atmosphere and uses a clunky 70's tech aesthetic similar to what you'd see in Alien. Anyway, it's pretty gritty and really more of a space western than a sci-fi movie. Also it has Pedro Pascal in it. Would recommend.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




veni veni veni posted:

Although I really liked the ending, I'm honestly not 100% sure what to make of it. At first I also thought it was Earth, which had regenerated itself, and that the ship had doubled back. But it shows that the ship has reached the Lyra constellation right before. So presumably they are 25 light years from earth.

I think Martman has the right idea and I think it all kind of fits in with the themes throughout the movie of living in the now, holding on to what you love, and man's insignificance in the grand scheme of things. It's hard to say for sure. I think the probe fits into this as well, which is another part I liked a lot, but was left feeling a bit stumped by. Devoting such a notable amount of the film to building up everyone's hopes , just to have it turn out to be a hunk of useless space junk took balls of steel.


I took the Probe to represent what happens when you wait for things to happen instead of making them happen. It wasn't a hunk of junk, it was something made of sufficiently advanced technology such that the people on the ship had been left behind as a result. If they had kept advancing (somehow) instead of wallowing in what they left behind they might have been able to penetrate it.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

LifeLynx posted:

This is why I've never liked mafia movies. It's the same story of a rise to power, fall due to hubris, celebration of excess, blah blah blah. I get why some people like it, I can't watch them though. Romanticizing the mob feels gross to me; at least when we do it with pirates there's a few hundred years removed there.

Agreed with everything here except hating on pirates. Those dudes robbed the absurdly wealthy corporations and merchants who were exploiting the world and robbing other cultures blind. And unlike their popular depiction were democratic, multi-cultural, rarely murdered, and often made up of freed slaves, freed maritime kidnapping victims, and legal privateers who got hosed over. Sure there are plenty who also did a lot of murdering, but on the whole pirates were far better than their pop cultural depictions.

But in reality mobsters are just a bunch of trashy assholes who are actively hurting everyday people and exploiting small businesses.

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av

feedmyleg posted:

Agreed with everything here except hating on pirates. Those dudes robbed the absurdly wealthy corporations and merchants who were exploiting the world and robbing other cultures blind. And unlike their popular depiction were democratic, multi-cultural, rarely murdered, and often made up of freed slaves, freed maritime kidnapping victims, and legal privateers who got hosed over. Sure there are plenty who also did a lot of murdering, but on the whole pirates were far better than their pop cultural depictions.

But in reality mobsters are just a bunch of trashy assholes who are actively hurting everyday people and exploiting small businesses.

What’s your take on narco state drug lords like Escobar who killed hundreds but also gave money to the poor and built soccer stadiums and poo poo?

E: I’m not calling you out or anything just genuinely curious

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Bad. If Escobar was out there killing, like, Amazon and Walmart executives who defended the companies' quarterly numbers with their lives instead of murdering innocent civilians trying to eke out a living then flooding slums with dangerous and addictive substances, I could probably be persuaded to a slightly more favorable position on his charity work.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

I don't feel like The Irishman glamorizes the mafia that much, I mean the last third is him melting away in an old folks home and feeling horrible that he murdered his friend. If anything it kind of seems like the anti-mafia movie.

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av

feedmyleg posted:

Bad. If Escobar was out there killing, like, Amazon and Walmart executives who defended the companies' quarterly numbers with their lives instead of murdering innocent civilians trying to eke out a living then flooding slums with dangerous and addictive substances, I could probably be persuaded to a slightly more favorable position on his charity work.

Yeah and I think in general films depicting drug lords come down on the people at the top while maybe glamorizing some of the underlings. Blow shows how awesome of a life style George Jung was living and it’s ok and we root for him because he isn’t directly killing people himself, just working for the killers who are shown as evil but even more glamorous.

Thing with pirates though is that if we accept people at the bottom trying to make a living are less culpable than the executives/drug lords, then we’ve gotta realize that anyone those pirates murdered in order to steal were more innocent than their bosses. Like, yea East India Trading Company or whatever were slavers but the people on their boats were just boat hands trying to make a living. Those were the dudes getting merc’d by the pirates willing to kill (even if it’s a small number as you say).

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

Inspector Hound posted:

I don't feel like The Irishman glamorizes the mafia that much, I mean the last third is him melting away in an old folks home and feeling horrible that he murdered his friend. If anything it kind of seems like the anti-mafia movie.

Yeah, the reason I liked it so much is because it doesn’t glamorize it or present the mafia as cool. Like, there is nothing “cool” in this movie or in what Frank does. I guess he has that fancy party that he doesn’t even enjoy, but other than that it’s like what the hell is he even getting out of this?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

beanieson posted:

Thing with pirates though is that if we accept people at the bottom trying to make a living are less culpable than the executives/drug lords, then we’ve gotta realize that anyone those pirates murdered in order to steal were more innocent than their bosses. Like, yea East India Trading Company or whatever were slavers but the people on their boats were just boat hands trying to make a living. Those were the dudes getting merc’d by the pirates willing to kill (even if it’s a small number as you say).

Oh for sure. At the end of the day nobody should be killing anybody, but it's a whole lot easier to defend pirates than it is to defend mobsters. And the history of piracy is so long and varied that you can't really make blanket statements, however on the whole the reality is that they were a whole lot less cut-throat than they are generally depicted. It's like how cowboys and desperados are always depicted as having duels and gunfights and getting in bar shootouts. When you look into the history it's a whole lot more pedestrian than all that.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

rich thick and creamy posted:

Looking through Prime and I think I'll make it a Ken Russell appreciation night. They got Lair of the White Worm and Salome's Last Dance! They also got Gothic yet I always saw that vhs on the shelf at the rental store back in the day but there was always something else I wanted to watch more so it stayed put. Honestly, I still can't muster the interest.

Lair of the White Worm is so weird. I love it.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


bort posted:

I found The Irishman exhausting. Scorsese's needledrops are so tired, and his choices are so predictable. All the dialog is in this ridiculous code that almost seems improvised at this point, since all of these actors have hundreds of hours playing what’s essentially the same character. By far the best, freshest performance in the whole thing is Jim Norton's cameo as Don Rickles.

I hope this is his elegy to the romanticized mob and we can get over this love affair with sociopaths. Mob chic costuming, excess porn, the savvy working class quip by the ignoramus, piles of money, the no longer shocking brief brutality, dis is owah thing: okay, okay we get it.

Pesci plays a character completely different than any of his other mob roles.

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE

wizardofloneliness posted:

Yeah, the reason I liked it so much is because it doesn’t glamorize it or present the mafia as cool. Like, there is nothing “cool” in this movie or in what Frank does. I guess he has that fancy party that he doesn’t even enjoy, but other than that it’s like what the hell is he even getting out of this?

That was pretty much what I got out of it, dude lost everything and wasted away in a retirement home

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

There’s also no money counting scene or anything, like it’s the least gratuitous mob movie I’ve ever seen. It’s like if your grandpa had to clean blood all the time and also your whole family hates him. I guess Scorsese just comes with too much baggage for some people.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

So did people just comment on what they thought the movie would be like without watching it or even reading what it was about?

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Least gratuitous mob portrayal is The Deuce.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Fallom posted:

So did people just comment on what they thought the movie would be like without watching it or even reading what it was about?

no

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Even if Scorsese characters get their comeuppance I still feel like I'm watching mafia porn every time I watch one of his films. irishman was no exception, even if it was pretty tame compared to Goodfellas or Casino. I didn't think it was bad but I wasn't too impressed with it either. it wasn't cause it was boring or anything. I've just never been a huge fan and I think I've hit the point where I think I'm really over his schtick.

Also that story just did not warrant a 4 hour runtime. So much forgettable, inconsequential, stuff happened I feel like it could have easily been cut in half while losing nothing.

veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Dec 8, 2019

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
The length and general nature of a money counting or "look how much money" scene has been my yardstick for how harshly to judge a gangster movie or TV show for years. That's why I loved a certain part in Narcos so much.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

veni veni veni posted:

Least gratuitous mob portrayal is The Deuce.

The Deuce was so underrated. The mob was in the background. Took more of a prominent role in the last few episodes of the show, but the show was never about the mob.

I appreciated that they showed how the mob basically was responsible for the gay social scene in NYC up until the 80s. And that they were clear what a POS Ed Koch was.

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isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

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Class Warcraft posted:

I watched the movie Prospect on hulu. It's about a low budget sci-fi movie about a father-daughter team that land on a dangerous gold-rush world to try and make it rich. It's got a really cool atmosphere and uses a clunky 70's tech aesthetic similar to what you'd see in Alien. Anyway, it's pretty gritty and really more of a space western than a sci-fi movie. Also it has Pedro Pascal in it. Would recommend.

This is a good recommend. thanks!

Gonna watch Aniara next

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