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Someday I'm going to watch more thunderbolt fantasy, I tell myself, cuz that show rules
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Dec 7, 2019 22:07
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Yeah Urobochi wanted to make the fate/zero event even darker, Nasu vetoed it and challenged him to give it a happy ending. He can make great things when he’s not constantly doing dark depressing stuff.
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Dec 7, 2019 22:17
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The issue that he is consistently utterly terrible about women, even in his better stuff. Or rather, it's not that Urobuchi is incapable of writing a good or at least entertaining thing, but he has glaring, lovely issues that are so consistently present that they get extremely tiresome and their presence almost always brings down a work dramatically if those issues are ones that you can't just compartmentalize and overlook. Thunderbolt Fantasy s2 is the most recent example - was enjoying it immensely and then the woman who was at the beginning stages of good character growth, and I'm not sure why I'm spoiling this because anyone familiar with him knows exactly what it's gonna be even if they haven't seen it, gets unceremoniously offed by a guy to serve his own development as the villain Oh Snapple! fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Dec 7, 2019 |
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Dec 7, 2019 22:30
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Dr Pepper posted:I'm beginning to think the problem isn't Fate as a whole but Gen Urobochi's contributions to it. because ??? and im a fan of madoka, but i think a lot of what sells those characters - the animation, the designs, the voice acting - was out of urobuchi's hands. obvs. im not saying 'everything i like about madoka has zero to do with urobuchi,' but its not unreasonable to say that madoka would have come across very differently if it was a visual novel or light novel he wrote mostly by himself. Endorph fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Dec 7, 2019 |
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Dec 7, 2019 22:49
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Probably the rawest translation of Uro's Brain to Finished Product is Kikokugai and that's uh
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Dec 8, 2019 03:46
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Rody One Half posted:I would not say "never" because again, Iri and Maiya exist. See, I never understood why people think Iri is a flat character. Maiya, I completely agree with. But Iri has agency, develops relationships, and chooses to actively support Kiritsugu. This is completely natural considering her nature and being a short-lived humonculous whose first contact with an ideal outside the Einzberns is Kiritsugu. He provides her something to aspire for outside of family doctrine. Obviously, it doesn't lead anywhere good, but her being willing to sacrifice herself for him isn't some unnatural piece of motivation. Hell, she even gets ticked at Kerry after he tries to dress down Saber. I think she's a great loving character, honestly.
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Dec 8, 2019 04:12
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Probably because she doesn't have a character arc or really anything to do in the story other than "get murdered by Kotomine"
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Dec 8, 2019 04:20
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Again, I really like Iri and Maiya. But neither Uro originally nor Aoki in the anime gives them all that much purpose beyond eating poo poo for Kiritsugu.
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Dec 8, 2019 04:23
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Iri is the first real friend Saber has. She keeps Kiritsugu heading towards his goal even when he’s about to just jump ship and run away with her and Ilya. She scolds him when he mocks Saber. Her struggle against Kirei provides an additional layer of understanding for Kirei about what kind of man Kiritsugu is. She doesn’t really interact with anyone else. I mean, it is an artifact of the story structure. The various parties of the 4HGW has far less interaction than the 5th beyond their own personal vendettas/backstories. There’s only really two stories going on in F/Z; Waver’s coming-of-age and set up for the Kerry/Kirei showdown. All the other characters are going to seem limited because theyre not the focus.
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f/zero would have been better if kiri had cheated on iri with aoki instead of maiya
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you want the fictional character emiya kiritsugu to gently caress the director of the fate zero anime, aoki ei?
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I wanna AU where Maiya lives and raises Shirou after Kiritsugu dies and gets to have a character
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Dec 8, 2019 05:05
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Space Flower posted:you want the fictional character emiya kiritsugu to gently caress the director of the fate zero anime, aoki ei? i meant aoi but sure why not
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Dec 8, 2019 05:36
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How often does Mash cockblock
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Bakanogami posted:I wanna AU where Maiya lives and raises Shirou after Kiritsugu dies and gets to have a character Pretty sure that fanfic literally exists
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Grouchio posted:How often does Mash cockblock wtf is wrong with you
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Stairmaster posted:wtf is wrong with you It's a bit of a meme because Mashu does have a habit of interrupting any potential interaction that could be construed as romantic. Also she did it in today's episode of Babylonia and was quite conspicuous about it.
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I can't believe Grouchio would make a bad post
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Rody One Half posted:Again, I really like Iri and Maiya. But neither Uro originally nor Aoki in the anime gives them all that much purpose beyond eating poo poo for Kiritsugu. that's not what a flat character means. for Iri, everything AlternateNu said. she doesn't get to interact with everybody, but what she does have, gives her a decent amount of depth. for Maiya, she gets really hosed over by barely having any screen time that's not with Kiritsugu, I'll grant that, but there's some kind of interesting stuff going on there with her perception of him and how it doesn't really line up with the actual person (and how this gets reflected in their relationship, with her taking it pretty seriously while Kiri... decidedly doesn't). Rody One Half posted:Probably the rawest translation of Uro's Brain to Finished Product is Kikokugai and that's uh If it weren't for the  incest angle Kikokugai would be loving amazing
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Iri and Maiya are both potentially interesting characters who exist solely to move Kiritsugu's story along. Like, yeah, Iri has motivations and chooses to sacrifice herself for Kiritsugu, but she's not a real person. Her main motivation is to sacrifice herself for Kiritsugu because Urobuchi wrote that to be her main motivation. And I don't think that's an inherently flawed choice, but Fate/Zero doesn't make it work, because there's very little screentime dedicated to why Irisviel would make that choice and what that choice means for her. We only get to see why Kiritsugu wants her to make that choice and what that choice means for him. Iri is still a good character, but she's a good character who's treated poorly by the story. And I don't mean in that she suffers, I mean in that the story only cares about her as a prop to make Kiritsugu sadder and as another way to kick Arturia in the ribs. Like, compare her to Sakura, where Sakura's motivations, what her choices mean for her, and what Shirou's choices mean for her, are all things that are given a lot of screentime.
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sick of Applebees posted:I wrote an erotic fan fiction about King Arthur, entitled "le Petite Morte d'Arthur"
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https://twitter.com/ClickAgain/status/1194861536864399360
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Finally watched Lost Butterfly It's the feel-bad movie of the year
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Blockhouse posted:Finally watched Lost Butterfly dubbed or subbed? i've only seen the HF movies dubbed, though i'll probably go back and rewatch subbed with my fiancee before we see Spring Song, and... y'know, as someone who was really cold on the Zero dub and kind of meh on the UBW one, they're knocking it out of the loving park with these.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:dubbed or subbed? Subbed. Watched it with my girlfriend who right after the movie walked downstairs and almost freaked out when she saw a mysterious red glow coming from the living room (someone left a Christmas decoration on)
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I watched the Bunny Girl Senpai film last week and rate it better than Lost Butterfly as a feel-bad anime movie. It even shares the themes of a meddlesome self-sacrificial protagonist, and weighting the life of one person vs the happiness of many!
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i'm not hugely familiar with Bunny Girl Senpai but you make me wanna check it out, because "better than Lost Butterfly" is a high loving bar like i've been thinking about what my top 5 for this year is, and I feel like the only movie I'd be able to confidently and comfortably put above it is Us. e: like, it's kind of funny, I'm not actually a huge anime person nowadays. most of the anime I care about in TYOOL 2019 is nostalgia poo poo for me. Dragon Ball and Gundam from childhood, Fate and Hellsing and Berserk from high school, and aside from the occasional time I go "huh that looks neat" and watch something blind, I don't really keep up anymore. I'm approaching the HF movies as much more of a Movie Person and hooooooly gently caress they're good from that perspective. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Dec 10, 2019 |
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Dec 10, 2019 04:31
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Get Jordan Peele to do live action Fate IMO. Like honestly the way he mines effective drama/horror out of the goofiest premises you've ever heard of reminds me of a lot of this Type Moon stuff at its best. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Dec 10, 2019 |
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Dec 10, 2019 04:50
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Raxivace posted:Get Jordan Peele to do live action Fate IMO. That's a really good call gently caress Denis Villenueve or Nicolas Winding Refn would probably be able to absolutely loving nail live-action Zero or HF, but I'm not sure they'd do well with the lighter side of the franchise, and Peele would nail both e: holy poo poo, Refn doing Zero would be pretty genius, actually. it would just very much have to be him in Bronson/Drive mode and not Only God Forgives/Neon Demon mode (though a HF adaptation with Sakura as the primary protagonist instead of Shirou would get a lot out of the latter Refn, which is why I initially thought of him) WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Dec 10, 2019 |
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Dec 10, 2019 06:18
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Sell it as a young adult series, and then surprise them with the twist that it's actually really good.
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I'm honestly just waiting for GO to get big enough that it escapes weeb circles and becomes a mainstream thing in the west Then poo poo will start popping off
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Dec 10, 2019 07:03
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Just do Mandy again, but this time with Fate characters and plot beats. Preferably with less cult leader penis.
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Honestly, I feel like with the whole Fate multiverse, you could do an american version of Fate as an alternate timeline. It would take a lot of work to adapt it into a movie format anyway. But we'd get another remix of EMIYA out of it. Personally I realy want an Hollow/Ataraxia anime.
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Dec 10, 2019 07:40
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yeah but who do you cast to play raikou
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Dec 10, 2019 07:53
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MonsieurChoc posted:Honestly, I feel like with the whole Fate multiverse, you could do an american version of Fate as an alternate timeline. It would take a lot of work to adapt it into a movie format anyway. But we'd get another remix of EMIYA out of it.
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Dec 10, 2019 07:59
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the only western fate stuff there really needs to be is pro-wrestlers doing references
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i feel like this is all just some weird cry for validation that you're never gonna get because an american fate thing would just be another step divorced from the original v/n
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There is only a single question regarding theoretical live action F/SN movie that really matters and you all should think really carefully about it: Who would you cast to play Saber?
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They're adapting Fate/Koha-Ace into a full manga... and replacing Kohaku with an OC  Also Akiha but who gives a poo poo
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