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Dec 11, 2019 19:49
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Really enjoyed Theros the last time around, I played so much Mono-U Devotion and it RULED. Can't wait for the return of the Indestructible Enchantment Gods. zoux posted:Is it a good mechanic or a bad mechanic It's a totally decent mechanic, it enourages people to try and build mono-colored decks around it. It also encourages playing cards that would never normally see Standard play simply because they cost BBB or whatever. Last time Theros was legal, the two best decks were Mono-B Devotion and Mono-U Devotion. Making mono-colored decks more viable in this Standard seems like a good thing. qbert fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Dec 11, 2019 19:51
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Waffleopolis posted:WotC is starting their Theros Beyond Death reveals way early (probably due to the gigantic leak). They're also teasing a reveal at the Game Awards (The Keighleys) tomorrow night. Last year they gave out a code for a playset of 5 uncommon standard staples plus a couple good rares. It was a good code, got 4 The Eldest Reborn and 4 Lava Coils out of it. I think the timing has a lot to do with the show as well. https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1204823217195671552
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Dec 11, 2019 19:56
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zoux posted:Is it a good mechanic or a bad mechanic It's good. I used to run a boros devotion deck that had the chance to kill someone on turn 3. First two turns you would play simple lands and whatnot and 1/2 mana creatures. Turn 3 you play this land  THEN play 1-4 of these assholes  Use the two floating mana to use Nykthos's ability to generate a lot of mana to bring in these  or this  or this  It had so many options. If you had like a RR 2-droped followed by 4 Burning Trees the Nykthos makes 10 mana to drop two fanatics, dealing 23 damage. It was a hoot. I doubt they'll reprint Nykthos for this set but we'll see what they'll do. Waffleopolis fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Dec 11, 2019 19:59
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qbert posted:It's a totally decent mechanic, it enourages people to try and build mono-colored decks around it. It also encourages playing cards that would never normally see Standard play simply because they cost BBB or whatever. Last time Theros was legal, the two best decks were Mono-B Devotion and Mono-U Devotion. Probably inferring way too much from one card, but the only spoiler we have so far with devotion is actually two colors. They might be pushing that instead this set? That definitely seems like a build-around card.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:00
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devotion is a cool mechanic with the caveat that it scales infinitely, so very good devotion decks tend to be snowbally (the better you’re doing, the better all your cards are)
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Dec 11, 2019 20:03
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TipTow posted:Probably inferring way too much from one card, but the only spoiler we have so far with devotion is actually two colors. They might be pushing that instead this set? That definitely seems like a build-around card. Yeah, Athreos was originally a devotion god card from Journey into Nyx, so they may be reprinting new versions of those two-colored ones.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:04
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I don't feel like squinting but people said that's the bab, so probably not a full cycle of off-color godsTipTow posted:Probably inferring way too much from one card, but the only spoiler we have so far with devotion is actually two colors. They might be pushing that instead this set? That definitely seems like a build-around card.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:06
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Playing Wednesday Brawl and holy hell Ashiok as commander makes people concede a lot. edit: I should specify Mono-U Ashiok. People fuckin' hate getting countered with Tale's End or having their commander Kasmina's Transformationed. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Dec 11, 2019 20:13
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How does Devotion work with combined-colour costs like Rampart Smasher? E: Zero VGS posted:Playing Wednesday Brawl and holy hell Ashiok as commander makes people concede a lot. People just concede a lot generally in Brawl because there's minimal penalty for doing so.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:18
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thespaceinvader posted:How does Devotion work with combined-colour costs like Rampart Smasher? You get the devotion of both. So like you'd have 4 devotion to green, and 4 devotion to red. Those kinds of cards are GREAT in devotion.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:20
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thespaceinvader posted:How does Devotion work with combined-colour costs like Rampart Smasher? So your devotion to green is 4, to red is 4, and to red/green is 4.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:20
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Yeah Devotion has a nice synergy with both the mono-colour payoff mechanics from Eldraine and the hybrid cards from Ravnica/Eldraine. It should open up a lot of good mono-colour options to compete with the multi-colour rich meta we've had lately. Should be a nice diverse meta if they don't have another turd in the punchbowl like Oko/Veil/Field/Once/et al.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:43
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I'm interested in how devotion will be shaped by our new colored artifacts. I mean, last time around we had Enchantment Artifacts like Spear of Heliod for 1WW - will they just be artifacts now?
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Dec 11, 2019 20:51
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I had a couple of mildly miserable drafts today. I built good-to-excellent decks both times (gruul the first time, monored the second), and got thoroughly screwed by draw the second time, albeit it taught me not to play Torbran until he gives me lethal given how much of a priority he is to remove. But I made Gold! Mardu Knight Rush is going very well in Constructed at the moment. if it keeps going I should finally manage to break out of plat. It's a fun little deck with 20 lands and nothing more expensive to play (i.e. actually put on the table) than Acclaimed Contender, and the only hing more expensive than that being EMbercleave which in practice costs 2.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:54
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Propaganda Hour posted:I'm interested in how devotion will be shaped by our new colored artifacts. I mean, last time around we had Enchantment Artifacts like Spear of Heliod for 1WW - will they just be artifacts now? Considering that one of the themes is enchantments matter, you'll still probably see Enchantment Artifacts to count as both
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Dec 11, 2019 20:57
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axeil posted:I'm still playing Simic Flash but now I'm running a Jund Cat Food deck and I like both decks a lot. I think I'm turning into the kind of Arena player everyone hates. I personally hate the cat food decks because of all the clickin involved in digital play but playing high level magic with powerful decks is one of the most fun things about the game and you shouldn't feel bad about it! Standard is actually in a pretty good spot right now with a fairly diverse metagame and lots of viable decks. It's a shame people got so driven off by Oko/Once/Veil before we got to this point. I've been really enjoying the BG adventures deck lately. If you can build it I would definitely reccomend taking it for a spin. I've been playing the Lucky Clover version just because I like having both value engines and some of the dumb stuff you can do once you get rolling with innkeeper or clover. One sort of funny thing with the deck is when you have one or more clovers out and need to do some weird targetting stuff with Murderous Riders so you don't fizzle the original copy if you want to cast it afterwards. The UR flash matchup feels completely unwinnable though.
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Dec 11, 2019 21:21
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thespaceinvader posted:People just concede a lot generally in Brawl because there's minimal penalty for doing so. I guess but a lot of it is definitely Ashiok, I've had multiple people shame concede when use Fabled Passage or Nissa's Triumph expecting them to work. I can't laugh at them too hard though because I probably forget about the passive abilities on opponent planeswalkers once a day.
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Dec 11, 2019 21:23
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That Ashiok's -7 is going to make it hard to decide which cards to trash for Escape. In theory it could also steal Adventurers. Of course how often do you expect to be able to pop that ultimate. Scary synergy with WAR Ashiok too.
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Dec 11, 2019 22:10
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Do you have to cast the (up to 3) spells for that ult as part of the resolution of the ability being used? Does t3feri hose that ult the same way he does with finale of promise?
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Dec 11, 2019 22:18
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resistentialism posted:Do you have to cast the (up to 3) spells for that ult as part of the resolution of the ability being used? Does t3feri hose that ult the same way he does with finale of promise? It doesn't specify a timing window (ie "this turn" or "as long as they remain exiled") so you have to cast them as part of the ability's resolution. This means the ability gets hosed by Teferi yes.
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Dec 11, 2019 22:37
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Wezlar posted:I personally hate the cat food decks because of all the clickin involved in digital play but playing high level magic with powerful decks is one of the most fun things about the game and you shouldn't feel bad about it! I made the Lucky Clover version of Golgari Adventures and I clearly have no idea how to play the deck because I went something like 1-6 with it.
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Dec 11, 2019 22:51
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axeil posted:I made the Lucky Clover version of Golgari Adventures and I clearly have no idea how to play the deck because I went something like 1-6 with it. What's your list and what are you doing with it? Clover Golg Adventures assumes you're trying to get kills with Smitten Swordmaster plus clover, not swinging for damage.
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Dec 11, 2019 22:53
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I’ve found that smitten Swordmaster is almost never the kill for the Warfield build, they are just lightning helix for 1 like 99% of the time, but that’s still super good.
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Dec 12, 2019 00:05
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I've stopped getting those kills a lot, but I think I messed with my deck too much to the point where it's tending not to have them. I really want to find some more scry to fit in there, because the Smidsy kill is immensely satisfying. I also think people have simply learned a bit better what to prioritise in fighting it. Unusually it's actually NOT the Innkeepers, quite a lot, onc there's a board established, it's the knights, because two swordmasters plus two knights on board and one Clover is 2+2, play SM, 3+3, Play SM for 10 damage/heal, and two more lifelinkers on the board. The cards mostly don't matter at that point. It also suffers from a lot of the same problem areas as rush decks, whilst actually being a grind/control archetype, principally having almost all its creatures be 2HP or under, and cost 3 or under, so it's vulnerable to a LOT of wipes. Speaking of which, Mardu Knight Rush just took me back into Diamond, loving FINALLY. Super satisfying, I keep getting SUUUUUUUUPER wide, and I still only have 3/4 of the Worthy Knights, when I finally find the fourth it'll get even better. Ditto the other two Ebon Legion. Make the curve even lower, get rd of even MORE land. It's by far my most successful deck with a winrate at 70% right now. Untapped is so useful, thanks for the advice to the thread on that poiint.
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Dec 12, 2019 00:14
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Just went 7-2 with a sweet mono blue deck where I drafted Gadwick first and Covetous Urge second and was just straight on it. Couple arguable picks but it was a really fun deck to play. deck draft The best game was one where I bounced my opponents Stonecoil Serpent, then Covetous Urged it. Next turn played it for 9, then Gadwicked for 9 the turn after that. Wezlar fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Dec 12, 2019 |
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Dec 12, 2019 00:27
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So, I just clicked through the end of a match and got a "Did you have fun?" prompt and accidentally hit no before I realized what happened. What was that about?
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Dec 12, 2019 00:40
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So, I just clicked through the end of a match and got a "Did you have fun?" prompt and accidentally hit no before I realized what happened. What was that about? Sometimes the game will ask if you had fun. Say yes if you won and no if you lost.
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Dec 12, 2019 00:47
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Well poot. I wanted to be a good sport because I liked the guy's deck but nuts to that I guess. I hope that guy doesn't get some kind of notification like "X players this month (including Dr. Red Ranger) hate you and think you suck."
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Dec 12, 2019 00:49
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I assure you the data will never be used for anything ever.
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Dec 12, 2019 00:53
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Marketed Gum posted:Sometimes the game will ask if you had fun. Say yes if you won and no if you lost. That’s my plan. I got asked last when my opponent conceded on turn two. Hell yeah I like easy wins.
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Dec 12, 2019 00:59
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zoux posted:I assure you the data will never be used for anything ever. And the dastardly Hasbro executive whom reddit ascribes all potentially greedy malicious acts upon is like "Happy faces are good! Me Grimlock happy face!"
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Dec 12, 2019 01:25
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Spiderdrake posted:Probably some chart in a board room somewhere, "As you can see, happy faces are up this quarter, therefore..." "We're getting three smiley faces from best of one for every one smiley face from traditional therefore people must prefer best of one"
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Dec 12, 2019 01:43
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Everybody has fun in Brawl, let's charge for it!
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Dec 12, 2019 01:48
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If your devotion to smiley faces is 5 or more, you win the game
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Dec 12, 2019 01:52
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Wafflecopper posted:If your devotion to smiley faces is 5 or more, you win the game Oh, it’s weird that they’d start doing power level errata again with Happily Ever After, but that’s a good change!
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Dec 12, 2019 01:58
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zoux posted:I assure you the data will never be used for anything ever. Do you work for Google or Facebook?
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Dec 12, 2019 02:07
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Shooting Blanks posted:Do you work for Google or Facebook? He didn't say that the data would be sold to ICE.
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Dec 12, 2019 02:42
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10k gold for brawl. Get hosed lol
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Dec 12, 2019 03:00
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Every consecutive time you answer "no" to the fun question, it increases the value of packs you open by 1%. When you say "yes", it resets to the default. That's how you beat the system
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Dec 12, 2019 03:07
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