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Acutally gently caress it, I'm trying it right nowquote:You are Meng Qi, a minor First Stage cultivator. You are being bullied in your sect, and also the girl you like is dating someone richer and more attractive. But one day you look through some old scrolls and find a cheat item, which will allow you to level up faster than anyone else Yeah seems pretty typical
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I finally got around to finishing I Favor the Villainess. The translation wasn't great, but I really enjoyed it anyway. Time to shill it everywhere.
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nerdz posted:I just love these webtoon/novel naming conventions my personal webnovel law of "avoid anything with some variation of the word "peerless" in it's title" remains flawless
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Yinlock posted:my personal webnovel law of "avoid anything with some variation of the word "peerless" in it's title" remains FTFY
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Yinlock posted:my personal webnovel law of "avoid anything
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I got around to reading Forty Milleniums of Cultivation, I'm not super far through but... This is CULTIVATION: 40K isn't it? With liberal use of all the other nerd things the author enjoys as well.gimme the GOD drat candy posted:40k of cultivation sidesteps that by having the, uh, goodish cultivators think of themselves as the first among citizens of a functional society with laws and a government rather than living gods. cultivators used to do the whole feuding magical bandit gang thing in the distant past, but it never really worked that well. after civilization rose and fell several times over people learned that they needed to actually work at having a civilization instead of (magic) individuals squabbling for (magic) wealth. From what I read I gather that the current GOOD TIMES in the MC's civilization have only existed the past 200 years at most, and so all the really old people who are super powered basically remember how things were when times were not good, the demons were at the door, and everyone was going to die if they didn't work together.
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I could use a new webnovel to read. I prefer shounen type stuff, especially isekai manga (Since I was a kid I loved the 'modern person in another world' stuff). I enjoy the ones where the protagonist is generally a good guy, but he uses underhanded and downright dirty methods to win. rear end in a top hat tactics are the best tactics. When everyone around you is saying "Yeah, you won, but the method you use to win..." then it's perfect. Any good suggestions?
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Dec 12, 2019 03:53
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Check out he who fights with monsters and see if it is to your taste
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Looking for exclusively WN/LN translations or would EN webserials be up your alley too?
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I've really been enjoying Cultivation Chat Group. Read over a hundred chapters the last few days. MC power level doesn't go up too quickly, although his friends are OP. I really, really like that the author includes lots of examples of how not to treat women, calls them out as bad behavior, and then has horrible things happen to the people who do them. It's not a feminist story by any stretch, and there are some serious issues with how women are described, but overall it is refreshingly decent. khy posted:I could use a new webnovel to read. I prefer shounen type stuff, especially isekai manga (Since I was a kid I loved the 'modern person in another world' stuff). He who fights with monsters on Royal Road My House of Horrors Umm... not an Isekai, but you might enjoy Forge of Destiny? It starts out low level but eventually the MC fights by trapping people in clouds of shadows and summoning endless hordes of hungry ghosts to devour them. Then she powers up and adds a blizzard to her creepy rolling sphere of doom. LLSix fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Dec 12, 2019 |
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Dec 12, 2019 05:06
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LibrarianCroaker posted:Looking for exclusively WN/LN translations or would EN webserials be up your alley too? WN/LN is preferred, mainly because if it's an EN protagonist then I wonder why they'd miss certain things and if it's a JP/KR protagonist the fact that there's enough of a cultural difference helps me avoid those feelings. But I won't turn down any EN recommendations.
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khy posted:WN/LN is preferred, mainly because if it's an EN protagonist then I wonder why they'd miss certain things and if it's a JP/KR protagonist the fact that there's enough of a cultural difference helps me avoid those feelings. But I won't turn down any EN recommendations. Neither of these are Isekai, and both are EN authors. I think you might like them for hitting the basically good MC who uses horrifying methods. Practical Guide to Evil - https://practicalguidetoevil.wordpress.com/summary/ Mother of Learning - starts very, very slow. MC also starts out as a jerk, but this is deliberate and he gets better as he matures. MC is supposed to use his power in a horrifying way, but the series doesn't sell it very effectively. Of all my suggestions I'd guess you'd probably like it the least. I enjoyed it enough to read it twice. Almost forgot: The Gamer - https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/the-gamer/ep-1/viewer?title_no=88&episode_no=1
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I'll second the rec for Mother of Learning, as far as English language ones go. It's kind of like Groundhog Day meets Harry Potter, but it comes together really well.
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khy posted:I could use a new webnovel to read. I prefer shounen type stuff, especially isekai manga (Since I was a kid I loved the 'modern person in another world' stuff). yeah, that's pretty much just a word-for-word description of he who fights with monsters.
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Dec 12, 2019 05:58
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:yeah, that's pretty much just a word-for-word description of he who fights with monsters. Well, except for being 'a good guy', sure. The main issue with 'Assholish but good' subgenre is that it very rarely actually plays it well on webnovels as it takes quite a bit of know-how, and instead you get 'rear end in a top hat and evil' or just 'good' after a few chapters. He who Fights Monsters is the former.
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Nah that’s wrong.
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Arkeus posted:Well, except for being 'a good guy', sure. Did you quit reading after he played Dead by Daylight in the holodeck? Everything he's done since then has been pretty clearly not-evil, even if he's still a huge rear end in a top hat.
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he's a jerk who makes a concerted effort to do good
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Avulsion posted:Did you quit reading after he played Dead by Daylight in the holodeck? Everything he's done since then has been pretty clearly not-evil, even if he's still a huge rear end in a top hat. He threatened a government clerk with gruesome murder just to get access to some of her records
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Tunicate posted:He threatened a government clerk with gruesome murder just to get access to some of her records No, he got the records with plain old bribery. The threats of murder came afterwards, to ensure her silence.
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Avulsion posted:Did you quit reading after he played Dead by Daylight in the holodeck? Everything he's done since then has been pretty clearly not-evil, even if he's still a huge rear end in a top hat. He has been doing a lot of evil stuff, just nothing that actually has consequences, and he benefits from the good old "If he is being evil, the person he is being evil toward will be retroactively shown to be a villain".
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The telling thing is that he's actually enough of a realized person that you can argue about his morality, rather than just an outright villain treated as a hero by the story like many WN protags He engages in threats, intimidation and manipulation against the rich and powerful while being pretty much unfailingly kind and helpful to the poor and powerless. He definitely does evil stuff but also he's possibly the only protag this side of the hilariously problematic Iron Ladies manhwa to have anything close to a class consciousness. (i love that terrible manhwa btw and ascribe a trans narrative that is definitely not intended unto the main character because it fits imo but holy poo poo is the least recommendable thing ever) atelier morgan fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Dec 13, 2019 |
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Tunicate posted:He threatened a government clerk with gruesome murder just to get access to some of her records He threatened a government clerk with gruesome murder to keep her from letting the bad guys know he looked them up and covering their tracks before he caught them. It even says that in the same chapter you're complaining about. Arkeus posted:He has been doing a lot of evil stuff, just nothing that actually has consequences, and he benefits from the good old "If he is being evil, the person he is being evil toward will be retroactively shown to be a villain". Noo.... everyone he's a jerk to is establish ahead of time as being either evil or potentially evil. Even Clive, who he spent several chapters being a dick to, and later becomes a key ally, was initially introduced as being a henchmen of one of the evil people. Once he realizes Clive isn't evil, he stops being (as much of) a dick. The author has even brought up the MC's dickishness as a bad thing several times since. MC also admits he was excessively a dick to one of the worst people in the whole story. There's definitely stuff to complain about in the series (the MC actually being a master manipulator is obviously a late addition to the MC's personality and still causes dissonance with the other story beats), but the MC goes way out of his way to do good. He's one of only two people in the story you ever see perform an act of charity. (Jory and MC are the only ones I can think of that help people without some sort of compensation). Lots of other people are nicer than they have to be. Edit: Actually, I think it might be more accurate to say the MC is a dick to almost everyone he talks to of the Adventurer class and above. I was going to say to everyone, but he's apparently fairly charming to 'normal' people and small business owners, although most of those interactions take place off screen, we do get to see a few of them. LLSix fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Dec 13, 2019 |
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yes and it's totally not an evil thing to threaten people with gruesome murder to keep them quiet about your other crimes 
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atelier morgan posted:The telling thing is that he's actually enough of a realized person that you can argue about his morality, rather than just an outright villain treated as a hero by the story like many WN protags But... he is treated by a complete hero by the story. That's why so many people give up in disgust about the story. It constantly does the "Jason makes a quick assumption of someone's personality, and it turns out right". If someone is evil, they will dislike Jason. If someone is nice, they will like him. If Jason dislikes someone, that person will turn evil (or there is a plot point about it). If Jason likes someone, they will be good. And that's in the first half second of a meeting. The story is hilariously shallow.
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Arkeus posted:But... he is treated by a complete hero by the story. That's why so many people give up in disgust about the story. It constantly does the "Jason makes a quick assumption of someone's personality, and it turns out right". If someone is evil, they will dislike Jason. If someone is nice, they will like him. If Jason dislikes someone, that person will turn evil (or there is a plot point about it). If Jason likes someone, they will be good. I mean yeah, its bad. Presumably if you're looking for litrpg on royal road you've already read the handful of good wns or you don't care about quality at all, or both.
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that's mostly true, but there is the local guild leader. jason liked her just fine, but she thought he was an arrogant shitbag and repeatedly hosed him over.
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Tunicate posted:yes and it's totally not an evil thing to threaten people with gruesome murder to keep them quiet about your other crimes Yes that would be evil, but that's not what happened. Jason committed no crimes. Jason did not threaten her to get her to commit a crime. Jason threatened her into not-aiding-a-criminal-in-the-commission-of-their-ongoing-criminal-conspiracy.
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LLSix posted:Yes that would be evil, but that's not what happened. chapter literally says he bribed her and yeah I think immediately jumping into threatening murder was a jarring into being evil for no reason
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Megazver posted:And listen to their metal album. I feel as if my whole body is soaring in the sky, truly terrific! Tunicate posted:chapter literally says he bribed her tbf the fact that he just used threats instead of immediate murder still puts him fairly high on the wn protagonist morality scale 
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Tunicate posted:chapter literally says he bribed her So he did. My mistake. He Who Fights With Monsters posted:
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Tunicate posted:chapter literally says he bribed her In a massively corrupt government he's working through here, bribery on this scale is barely even a crime - it's just the only way you'll get anything done. He's investigating the abuses of the rich, so people are not just going to cough up incriminating information about the wealthy and powerful people they work for. The threats were excessive, sure, but again, he's dealing with wealthy and powerful people who have shown very little hesitation to use violence and even murder to protect their interests, and if they actually found out what he was doing and confronted him directly without him having an out could just stomp him like an insect - and probably several other people in the process. Using threats of violence that he wouldn't actually ever follow up on to protect multiple people from actual, real violence isn't the purely loathsome and evil act some people seem to be portraying it as, just a bit excessive - he's got a reputation so he's using it. Wolpertinger fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Dec 14, 2019 |
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Reposting my request from the good isekai thread: What was that isekai someone posted before that was described as Dark Souls the Isekai? Was it good? What are some good isekais/mangas/manwhas/web novels what have you where the protagonist or some friends that have spooky powers or evil powers or skills normally attached to evil characters? But are good people? I love the concept so I'm collecting a list to slowly work through.
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Artificer posted:Reposting my request from the good isekai thread: The Good-For-Nothing Seventh Young Lady goes hog wild with this, making her primary powerset (curses and mind control) not only something that's usually attached to evil characters generally also something basically exclusively used by evil dickbags in setting. Provided that you think stealing from rich people is a victimless crime she's pretty good people (at least for the first eleven hundred chapters ive read)
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in the vast majority of such wn's the mc immediately hooks up with the richest and most abusively controlling guy around. is that the case here?
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atelier morgan posted:The Good-For-Nothing Seventh Young Lady goes hog wild with this, making her primary powerset (curses and mind control) not only something that's usually attached to evil characters generally also something basically exclusively used by evil dickbags in setting. Provided that you think stealing from rich people is a victimless crime she's pretty good people (at least for the first eleven hundred chapters ive read) That sounds potentially good! Thanks. gimme the GOD drat candy posted:in the vast majority of such wn's the mc immediately hooks up with the richest and most abusively controlling guy around. is that the case here? This doesn't sound good at all.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:in the vast majority of such wn's the mc immediately hooks up with the richest and most abusively controlling guy around. is that the case here? Its a xianxia style isekai rather than a palace intrigue isekai so she hasn't hooked up with anyone and instead just has a platonic harem of male admirers. The closest thing to a romantic lead is a spirit inhabiting her body and its not close at all. She spend most of the first several hundred chapters disguised as three boys atelier morgan fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Dec 15, 2019 |
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cool, i'll check it out. i've long wanted to like those 'badass lady transmigrates into some loser girl who lives in a vaguely ancient china-ish setting' webnovels, but they kept letting me down. it's always the same poo poo, too.
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