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StashAugustine posted:My hot take is that Lynch Dune is really bad. Like its got some very good visuals and when Lynch gets go be weird its good, but its an incoherent mess if you haven't read the books and if you have it completely fucks up the story It's not that hot of a take since David Lynch agrees with you
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:at this point i’m just actively cheering for every franchise movie to bomb, so it’s nice to see these early sw reviews what's amazing is that it is bombing at all. every review is like "this movie has lots of fun stuff in it and everything you could want to see in a star wars movie and it loving sucks"
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Dec 18, 2019 18:02
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Serf posted:what's amazing is that it is bombing at all. every review is like "this movie has lots of fun stuff in it and everything you could want to see in a star wars movie and it loving sucks" yeah, and i mean it’s still gonna make a poo poo ton of money so it’s prob not gonna actually “bomb” bomb, but the bad reviews are a nice consolation
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Dec 18, 2019 18:08
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It's cool that the critical consensus is new era Disney movies all suck rear end but they bust sales records anyway.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:From the beginning to the end, the only thing that changes is a bunch of #Resistance members die. Nobody grows or changes. Rey is in the exact same spot at the end as she was at the beginning. Nobody goes through an arc, and any threat of character development is precluded by the fact there has to be a sequel. Every main character has an arc and is transformed by the end of TLJ. The movie clearly challenged fans as it showed half the fan-base to be fashy.
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Presenting Nipples posted:Every main character has an arc and is transformed by the end of TLJ. The movie clearly challenged fans as it showed half the fan-base to be fashy. lmao nope e: Serf posted:its a case where johnson made his movie and the studio made their movie and a team of overworked editors then had to weld them together into one incoherent mess eh, I don't know - if the studio was genuinely being that heavy handed I don't think they'd have let a lot of what actually went on in TLJ stand plus, while it's a good explanation for how incoherent the movie was (and I know it's not what you're saying), I often find this take is a way for people to excuse Johnson (who has made really good non-Star Wars movies) by implying his half was the "good" one and was let down by studio hacks, but that just isn't so - for example the hilariously hackish attempt to set up his very own sequel series via the kid on the casino planet e2: anyway, the real choice for holiday movie we should all be seeing is CATS which a Variety reviewer has already described as "way too horny for its own good" LGD has issued a correction as of 19:10 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Dec 18, 2019 18:57
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Jenny Agutter posted:kind of curious about your reasoning here. there's some class tension at the start but its moved past pretty quickly. what am I missing it's the whole loving ballgame, like, even in her relationship with Emma, Adele's the one that ends up doing the chores; Emma's the cool intellectual type with the cool friends, the oyster dinners, and the deep opinions on Egon Schiele, while Adele is a snot-covered wretch eating pasta and watching TV, so unable to let go of her lower class mediocrity that she ends up cheating on Emma with a man
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Dec 18, 2019 19:07
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CATS is going to be a must-see https://twitter.com/thelindsayellis/status/1207171398419927041?s=20 https://twitter.com/thelindsayellis/status/1207172749304578048?s=20
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Dec 18, 2019 19:19
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coathat posted:Dune is just not a good book to adapt into a movie It needs more time, probably somewhere between 6 and 20 hours, to do it right.
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Dec 18, 2019 19:21
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ElNarez posted:it's the whole loving ballgame, like, even in her relationship with Emma, Adele's the one that ends up doing the chores; Emma's the cool intellectual type with the cool friends, the oyster dinners, and the deep opinions on Egon Schiele, while Adele is a snot-covered wretch eating pasta and watching TV, so unable to let go of her lower class mediocrity that she ends up cheating on Emma with a man drat I guess I never realized being bisexual was so much more mediocre than being gay?? what a weird take
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Dec 18, 2019 19:25
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:From the beginning to the end, the only thing that changes is a bunch of #Resistance members die. Nobody grows or changes. Rey is in the exact same spot at the end as she was at the beginning. Nobody goes through an arc, and any threat of character development is precluded by the fact there has to be a sequel. They could have just killed off Leia, but they didn't have the balls. Laura Dern's character could have been interesting if they didn't gently caress up her storyline. The hard rear end superior taking down the hotshot is a trope as old as time, which is fine. However, there was no need to keep her plan secret from the crew for the sake of tension only to culminate in a cool looking futile sacrificial effort. Serf posted:what's amazing is that it is bombing at all. every review is like "this movie has lots of fun stuff in it and everything you could want to see in a star wars movie and it loving sucks" So like video game reviewers. Complain about the game endlessly, but end up giving it a score no less than 8.5 while claiming that there is "something for everyone".
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Dec 18, 2019 19:28
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Agronox posted:It needs more time, probably somewhere between 6 and 20 hours, to do it right. Syfy tried doing that in the 2000s and it was poo poo.
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Dec 18, 2019 19:29
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Forceholy posted:They could have just killed off Leia, but they didn't have the balls. it also helps if the hard-rear end is shown to be competent and their takedowns of the hotshot well-justified, while TLJ tells us that's the case but what's actually shown throughout the course of the movie is pretty much the opposite
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Dec 18, 2019 19:34
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Jenny Agutter posted:drat I guess I never realized being bisexual was so much more mediocre than being gay?? what a weird take I mean that's the movie's point of view, compare and contrast Emma's parents with Adele's parents, compare how Emma and Adele are filmed, compare the dinner scenes (which are all the more important considering kechiche's filmography), the whole movie is about class, and it shows Adele's actions as motivated by her class upbringing; meanwhile it makes a complete loving technicolor spectacle of lesbian love as the ultimate form of enlightened self-expression, so, again, yeah, in that context, I don't feel like my read is that strange
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Dec 18, 2019 20:35
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Peanut President posted:the three star wars sequels are actual subtle satire of hollywood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnRSvDcVCfQ&t=41s
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Dec 18, 2019 21:02
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StashAugustine posted:My hot take is that Lynch Dune is really bad. Saying that an universal disliked movie is bad is the lukest of all lukewarm takes.
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Dec 18, 2019 21:12
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ElNarez posted:it's the whole loving ballgame, like, even in her relationship with Emma, Adele's the one that ends up doing the chores; Emma's the cool intellectual type with the cool friends, the oyster dinners, and the deep opinions on Egon Schiele, while Adele is a snot-covered wretch eating pasta and watching TV, so unable to let go of her lower class mediocrity that she ends up cheating on Emma with a man Yeah, but Emma is also portrayed as an elitist, abusive rear end in a top hat.
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Dec 18, 2019 21:17
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Alhazred posted:Saying that an universal disliked movie is bad is the lukest of all lukewarm takes. I've seen lots of people say it was good or at least interesting but apparently I'm just overestimating the support it has
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Dec 18, 2019 21:20
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lynch's dune is good because its so bad
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the reason struggle session did an entire episode about movie bobs garbage book is because they care deeply about the same poo poo he does but have different takes
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the major failure of the disney SW trilogy is that it had anything to do with any of the characters from the OT. like, what are the astronomical loving odds that events which decide the fate of the entire galaxy keep being centered around the same 3 loving people (and now their kids). the disney trilogy should have been set two thousand years after rotj so that they could carve out their own space with their own characters, but instead we have the loving skywalker clan mucking poo poo up for an entire galaxy's worth of sentient life for the umpteenth time. Kotor and Kotor 2 are widely regarded to be some of the best star wars media ever released, and they had absolutely nothing to do with anything from the OT or the PT. if some nerds writing video game fan fiction of the star wars universe can come up with compelling characters and interesting plot points that don't touch any of the original source material, you've got to believe disney can find somebody somewhere with the same level of writing chops to churn out something actually interesting
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Dec 18, 2019 22:21
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Freaking Crumbum posted:the major failure of the disney SW trilogy is that it had anything to do with any of the characters from the OT. like, what are the astronomical loving odds that events which decide the fate of the entire galaxy keep being centered around the same 3 loving people (and now their kids). the disney trilogy should have been set two thousand years after rotj so that they could carve out their own space with their own characters, but instead we have the loving skywalker clan mucking poo poo up for an entire galaxy's worth of sentient life for the umpteenth time. the odds were basically 100% because its a space opera that is concerned with Jedi/the Force and when the OT left off Luke was the inheritor of that mystic tradition and Star Wars had (for whatever reason) positioned the OT as the middle of a 9 part series, so expecting some continuity between characters was entirely logical (as was expecting some separation, both due to the passage of time IRL but also the conventions of multi-generational epics) - even if they'd gone several thousand years in the future you'd expect Luke to be referenced as like The Founder or to show up in a mysterious hologram somewhere, etc. time skips or separating from the OT are really good ideas, but that's not what they were aiming for with the sequel trilogy and gently caress, this is actually one of the things TFA did well, in that it introduced a bunch of new characters that we actually gave a gently caress about and were interested in and largely reduced the OT characters to supporting roles Han was kind of central but in terms of the galaxy as a whole he's a nobody and matters most for his relation to Kylo/Ben (and he, y'know, dies), Leia leads what is portrayed as a small band of military hardliners that is apparently largely ignored by the Republican government/military, and Luke has become a reclusive hermit TLJ could have easily made OT characters far less prominent by deciding to continue to focus on new characters and actually taking an interest in whatever the heck is going on with Republican politics/military forces instead of making Leia's group inexplicably the only foe of a First Order that somehow became the Empire 2.0 offscreen between films and making its bizarre character choices about Luke central to everything (that wasn't the world's least compelling chase scene and the associated tension-killing side-trip to the prequels via the casino planet) LGD has issued a correction as of 22:47 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:the major failure of the disney SW trilogy is that it had anything to do with any of the characters from the OT. like, what are the astronomical loving odds that events which decide the fate of the entire galaxy keep being centered around the same 3 loving people (and now their kids). the disney trilogy should have been set two thousand years after rotj so that they could carve out their own space with their own characters, but instead we have the loving skywalker clan mucking poo poo up for an entire galaxy's worth of sentient life for the umpteenth time. It basically because like super-hero movies it's a very lazy play it safe genre of film.
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ElNarez posted:I mean that's the movie's point of view, compare and contrast Emma's parents with Adele's parents, compare how Emma and Adele are filmed, compare the dinner scenes (which are all the more important considering kechiche's filmography), the whole movie is about class, and it shows Adele's actions as motivated by her class upbringing; meanwhile it makes a complete loving technicolor spectacle of lesbian love as the ultimate form of enlightened self-expression, so, again, yeah, in that context, I don't feel like my read is that strange hey first off, that’s a great argument, thank you for laying it out for me. I definitely picked up on all the class stuff going on when I first watched the movie but I don’t think it’s as inextricably linked with sexual expression in the film as you do. if anything Emma is the one who equates the two during their big breakup and I really don’t think the film is advocating her point of view at that point when she has been demonstrated to be a nonempathetic rear end in a top hat. Adele’s best school friend is gay iirc, the last scene of the film strongly implies that her next relationship is with a man who is a wealthy movie actor, basically class and sexual expression run parallel for a while but they are not interlinked. that’s just imo
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I would need to rewatch it to go any deeper than that but I'm thankful for the discussion we had, especially in the midst of all the star wars clown bullshit which I cannot speak on because an ongoing transit strike in Paris stops me from going to the movie house
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Dec 19, 2019 00:03
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ElNarez posted:I would need to rewatch it to go any deeper than that but I'm thankful for the discussion we had, especially in the midst of all the star wars clown bullshit which I cannot speak on because an ongoing transit strike in Paris stops me from going to the movie house oh you’re French? I wonder how much our experiences of the film differed because I only get dialogue via translation
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Dec 19, 2019 00:20
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i finally saw Ready or Not and it is good and extremely CSPAM it felt like a no BS version of Knives Out
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apparently Harley Quinn is now cancelled because it made the penguin jewish
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well tell the twitter scolds to consult the expert Jew or Not Jew because he’s opting to no on his Jewishness quote:Editor's Update: In 2019, an episode of the Harley Quinn animated series depicts The Penguin attending his nephew's bar mitzvah. Consider us intrigued, but not convinced. Still, that should teach us to doubt the Batman. He is the world's greatest detective, after all
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However, Harley Quinn herself is half Jewish
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Star Wars should just be given over to the Super Robot Wars people. Pew Pew lazers.
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honestly i'm kind of glad rise isn't getting either universal acclaim or derision, i'm sure i'll love it because even though star wars movies in general are bad poo poo for babies, they always hit really well with me, and it will be nice to see it without the weight of expectation.
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#ImpeachmentDay https://twitter.com/theporndailyxxx/status/1207523150998704128?s=20
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Forceholy posted:So like video game reviewers. Complain about the game endlessly, but end up giving it a score no less than 8.5 while claiming that there is "something for everyone". movie reviews have been like this for at least a decade if not longer its an embarrassment to the craft and the inability of critics to realize this is why nobody takes them seriously anymore just makes the whole thing that much sadder Atrocious Joe posted:i finally saw Ready or Not and it is good and extremely CSPAM i caught some of it on cable awhile back and was honestly kind of shocked how much it veered away from self referential bullshit like the only characters who engaged in that were the ones that were explicitly being shown to be morons even the main character but his main redeeming quality is that he has a strong interest in how the game was originally developed demonstrating an unusually sincere curiousity in a world filled with idiots who worship brands do want to actually finish it at some point but i can hardly blame myself for reacting to the movies base concept with raw hatred given the way it was marketed leafing through the source material at a department store didnt do it any favors either among the many stupid references i saw in the exactly two pages i read were a mention of how wil wheaton and cory doctorow were highly respected senators in the new video game based political system
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Some Guy TT posted:i caught some of it on cable awhile back and was honestly kind of shocked how much it veered away from self referential bullshit like the only characters who engaged in that were the ones that were explicitly being shown to be morons even the main character but his main redeeming quality is that he has a strong interest in how the game was originally developed demonstrating an unusually sincere curiousity in a world filled with idiots who worship brands you're thinking of ready player one which is a different and much worse movie than ready or not ready or not is the hide & seek movie where Not Margot Robbie merks a bunch of rich assholes while also getting the absolute poo poo beaten out of her
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