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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Quantum Shart posted:

After she and her grandfather Palpatine literally destroyed everything the Skywalkers were, right down to their bloodline, she finishes the job by stealing even the family name and legacy.

The Star Wars movies have literally become the story of the genocide of one family--a family that fights for justice--by one that wrought the worst horrors upon the galaxy.

What a timeline. I want to get back to my own world now, please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZaGYphtr7E

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Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Leia: “What frequency is that transmission airing on?”

Resistance computer tech: “Frequency.....SIXTY SIX, General!”

*Leia gasps as telenovela organ music gets louder*

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Quantum Shart posted:

SCRAPPY DOO HAS BEEN FOUND DEAD IN MIAMI would genuinely have been a better opening crawl


https://twitter.com/faithwithanf/status/1199452309190828032?s=21

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-rise-skywalker-features-franchise-s-first-same-sex-kiss-1263256

I laughed. What a puff piece jerking Disney off over weak-rear end poo poo.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Watching TFA and all the Han and Leia scenes make me want to barf

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Asgerd posted:

what is the practical difference here
It's a restatement of Light Side vs Dark Side in normal people terms. In ROTJ Luke killing Vader would be evil but Vader killing the Emperor is good. What's the practical difference between one killing and another?

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.



quote:

'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' Makes History With First Same-Sex Kiss

I assure you this is not the case.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

lmao

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Seems kind of weird for them to brag about breaking new ground with a same sex kiss in a franchise where we’ve already seen a man get sexual gratification from being choked by another man.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



General Dog posted:

Watching TFA and all the Han and Leia scenes make me want to barf

So in TFA they take out the Republic government with the superweapon, right? There's just no government overseeing things in the galaxy besides the First Order. Also in TROS Rey is supposed to be having trouble with "good" jedi powers but in TFA she jedi mind tricks a guard with no trouble at all?

They really hosed up not giving Boyega and Issac more time together, their intro in TFA is easily among the best stuff in any SW movie.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Everyone praising the film is watching it as a spectacle or a football game, everyone negging it is watching it as a serious film. More evidence that it’s a children’s movie.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Unlimited power coursing through all of our veins.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



In TFA Rey actually had somewhat of a character, but in TLJ she was just kind of there. I have no idea about TROS but I assume it's more of the latter.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

FlamingLiberal posted:

In TFA Rey actually had somewhat of a character, but in TLJ she was just kind of there. I have no idea about TROS but I assume it's more of the latter.

Rey's character in TLJ is pretty straightforward I thought: a Jedi prospect seeking out a mentor, but doesn't really find one. She gets frustrated, eventually she says gently caress it I'll do it myself, and ends up dabbling in the darker aspects of the force a bit, forging a connection to the big bad villain of the series in the process.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Mat Cauthon posted:

This was honestly my first guess in TFA. Either QGJ or Kenobi, neither of which are more illogical or nonsensical than her being Palp's grandkid.

I was thinking she was a Kenobi because it would have been pretty cool to have a skywalker looking after, and training a kenobi in the 2nd movie. *sigh*

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Horizon Burning posted:

I am having extreme trouble getting over the first five minutes of the film.

Opening crawl
Space establishing shot
Slow-motion scene of Kylo killing people
Kylo finds a pyramid
Kylo flies through a red nebula
Kylo comes to a spooky planet
Kylo explores the spooky planet
Palpatine talks to Kylo, says he made Snoke
Kylo sees Snoke clones
Kylo finds Palpatine
Kylo and Palpatine talk

The pacing is absurd.

This is the sloppiest part of the movie, and I think it would’ve fitted better as a cliffhanger ending of the previous film.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Also whoever mentioned that Maz should've just been Ahsoka... thanks for making me realize that Lupita Nyong'o could've been cast as my favorite character, but her talent is squandered on a nothing character instead. Fuuuuck.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

lmao is maz even in RoS or is the last we ever see of her a bad gag about union busting

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Baby Yoda was just seen healing someone in today’s Mandalorian episode.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

lmao is maz even in RoS or is the last we ever see of her a bad gag about union busting

IIRC the spoilers at least said she's in it to give chewbacca a medal at the end (??????)

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Excuse me, that’s Dr. Baby Yoda to you

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

lmao is maz even in RoS or is the last we ever see of her a bad gag about union busting

She’s in it. Hangs around resistance camp and has a few lines.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

lmao is maz even in RoS or is the last we ever see of her a bad gag about union busting

She is. She gives Chewie the medal they never gave him in A New Hope. FANSERVICE.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Turns out, she was a Joestar.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

That we don't find out Maz was killed and the union now runs her bar is reason enough for me to never bother seeing TROS

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

teagone posted:

She is. She gives Chewie the medal they never gave him in A New Hope. FANSERVICE.

Is that all she gives him?

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:

BigglesSWE posted:

This is the sloppiest part of the movie, and I think it would’ve fitted better as a cliffhanger ending of the previous film.

we know from the leaks that this was originally going to take place later in the third film and feature kylo fighting his way to and getting information from a creature known as the oracle (described by a leaker months and months ago and then spotted recently in a behind the scenes featurette - so this was cut very recently) that would lead him to the wayfinder that would lead him to palpatine.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

teagone posted:

She is. She gives Chewie the medal they never gave him in A New Hope. FANSERVICE.

got I could feel myself folding into myself when I saw this

same with wedge

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world
So what's the explanation for a rebel fleet that blots out the sun after the Resistance was proven hugely unpopular in TLJ?

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

Ferrinus posted:

So what's the explanation for a rebel fleet that blots out the sun after the Resistance was proven hugely unpopular in TLJ?

There is no explanation.

Peacoffee
Feb 11, 2013


When it comes to how anything relates to other things and what connections exist between the movies, this trilogy is hands down the most confusing effort I've seen with this much money behind it. I liked the physicality of TLJ, but when I saw TFA afterwards for the first time I realized TLJ is a lot better if you don't actually know what the movie before it was like. It actually makes you want to see the first one, until you do.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Ferrinus posted:

So what's the explanation for a rebel fleet that blots out the sun after the Resistance was proven hugely unpopular in TLJ?

Turns out Palp''s broadcast was the Star Wars equivalent of "Warriors, come out and plaaaaaaa-aaaaay!"

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Just watched Phantom Menace again for the first time in a long time, and it was actually good. Like the senate and politics stuff is way better for me now that I’m older than when I was a literal child. I remember enjoying it as a kid too and I think George knew he wanted kids to be into it.

The stuff with palpatine in this one is actually really well done and I was shocked at like how good the pacing was.

Anyway it was good folks

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Phantom Menace is the best prequel and it's not even close

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
^^^Morons above

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The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

:spooky:
Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Saw the movie, went back and read the last ten pages of this thread in anticipation of cool and good posts about it.

My god, reddit/redlettermedia has a whole lot to answer for. Star Wars geeks are loving miserable bores nowadays. I just wanna say after the progressive left got smashed in the UK election last week this film felt like a little hot chocolate for the soul. The story is sweet and hopeful, it feels like a feature length version of an 80's Saturday morning cartoon. Space Socialism rules and the Rebels are great good guys, I had fun on their adventure. Zombie Palpatine, force lightning, giant snakes/space horse friends and spaceship lazer battles all hit the mark. I preferred TLJ but I am very satisfied with the conclusion to the Kylo Ren trilogy. Sorry you haven't seen the film and yet feel the need to be the baddest rear end hater on CineD. You all come across very badly.

"There's more of us. Full space Socialism now" - Star Wars

Regards.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
This is a forum where a lot of people unironically think that Zack Snyder is a great storyteller; I left my expectations of “sane” movie discussions behind a long time ago.

That said, this movie IS flawed, though most of my problems with it stems from technical/pacing issues, rather than story/character arcs. I’ll see it again soon.

Captain Jesus
Feb 26, 2009

What's wrong with you? You don't even have your beer goggles on!!
What seems to be the most telling thing about TROS is that there is apparently nothing worth discussing. It is similar to TFA in this regard. The most interesting things about TFA are those that aren't in the movie, like Finn's stormtrooper past actually mattering. As much as I dislike TLJ for all kinds of reasons, it's at least interesting.

Anyway, I feel the need to share my alternate TLJ ending and followup movie fanfiction: Rey and Kylo go away together and Luke doesn't die. Leia maybe dies in the hyperspace ram, who cares. Luke and Finn (who is obviously extremely jealous and upset) then team up to find and redeem Rey. All kinds of things can happen then. It would be interesting if Rey actually got too dark for Kylo and maybe he would try to redeem her too and would get killed. Or Luke could catch up with Rey and Kylo and tell them to abandon the dark side only for them to go "ok, boomer, we're not really on the dark side, we're doing our own thing". It would shake up the character dynamic in an amazing way.

I'm pretty sure someone, maybe even Rian Johnson, had this idea at some poit, but coulnd't get it past Disney.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Amethyst posted:

^^^Morons above

Don’t sign your posts.

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The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Captain Jesus posted:

What seems to be the most telling thing about TROS is that there is apparently nothing worth discussing. It is similar to TFA in this regard. The most interesting things about TFA are those that aren't in the movie, like Finn's stormtrooper past actually mattering. As much as I dislike TLJ for all kinds of reasons, it's at least interesting.


Wow this actually describes my feelings towards TFA. The stuff there is in the movie is just boring and the stuff that was obviously cut is way more interesting. I remember watching it and thinking why even have Poe in this movie when he doesn’t do much, and I found out it was a reshoot and he was supposed to die.

Why the gently caress is Phasma a character at all in any of these movies? Who and what are the first order?! I don’t want to read a book, comic book, play a game or watch a cartoon to figure this out.

And then it’s just a retread of a New Hope. It’s pretty lazy and they don’t really show anything new? Why does moz or whatever have Luke’s light saber. Why can’t they just tell you these things?! I feel like JJ Abrams is great at directing action and frenetic scenes from time to time but character moments he’s pretty weak on. The Finn stuff that was cut is a huge shame as he was the most interesting character by far. Frustrating movie!

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