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Putting Keri Russell in a mask is like...what. What Disney?
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Saw it tonight and yeah, that movie felt like it was written by 100 Disney robots. Palpatine being back was so loving stupid but I was happy to see that actor hamming it up again.
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Dec 20, 2019 09:56
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Horrible Taste posted:They cut out a subplot that he was hanging around on that desert planet because he never left after he found out his kid was kidnapped while he and Luke were there searching for the assassin guy. The Endor girl was supposed to be hinted to be Lando's kid hence the ending scene of them that makes no sense now. . It would have been nice if that had stayed in, and Lando had been shown to have an actual reason to be living there, rather than him being yet another OT hero who decided to gently caress off rather than help fight the First Order... Then again, if that had stayed in, it would have implied that Luke was an rear end in a top hat who couldn't be bothered helping Lando look for his kidnapped daughter, so... win some, lose some.
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Why do half the people in this stupid galaxy wear masks? What even is the point of stormtrooper armor if their own lasers cut right through it?
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SeANMcBAY posted:Saw it tonight and yeah, that movie felt like it was written by 100 Disney robots. Palpatine being back was so loving stupid but I was happy to see that actor hamming it up again. For a second I thought you wrote that Palpatine was black now, that would be quite the twist
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Dec 20, 2019 09:58
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afaikr Phasma's was the only set of armor that deflected anything yet it broke to getting hit by a stick lol
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Dec 20, 2019 09:59
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Horrible Taste posted:They cut out a subplot that he was hanging around on that desert planet because he never left after he found out his kid was kidnapped while he and Luke were there searching for the assassin guy. The Endor girl was supposed to be hinted to be Lando's kid hence the ending scene of them that makes no sense now. . Eh, I was getting a vibe that they were related. Was hoping/expecting the girl to say something like “wait omg I’m from that same place you just named too but I was kidnapped” and Lando “oh poo poo my daughter was kidnapped.” Was also hoping that they’d do more with Rey being able to force lightning but somehow manages to not get corrupted by it leading to Jedi that can do both.
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Dec 20, 2019 09:59
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Boris Galerkin posted:Was also hoping that they’d do more with Rey being able to force lightning but somehow manages to not get corrupted by it leading to Jedi that can do both. She wasn't projecting the lightning herself - she was using the "power of all the Jedi" to reflect it back upon Palpatine. There have been Jedi who've used it in canon, though.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:00
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Boris Galerkin posted:Eh, I was getting a vibe that they were related. Was hoping/expecting the girl to say something like “wait omg I’m from that same place you just named too but I was kidnapped” and Lando “oh poo poo my daughter was kidnapped.” so how do you go from trying to force pull a thing to blowing it the gently caress up anyway
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Dec 20, 2019 10:01
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BIG HEADLINE posted:She wasn't projecting the lightning herself - she was using the "power of all the Jedi" to reflect it back upon Palpatine. Did you miss the part where she thought she killed Chewbacca?
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Dec 20, 2019 10:01
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The Rey/Kylo fight scenes could’ve been five minute shorter in the first half of the movie. They are evenly matched, that is very easy to show cinematically. TLJ was a confused movie that was about getting rid of the old Star Wars traditions… And ends with everyone piling onto the millennium falcon.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:02
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Boris Galerkin posted:Did you miss the part where she thought she killed Chewbacca? This was made especially dumb by her sensing him a half mile above the city a few scenes later.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:03
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Bilirubin posted:so how do you go from trying to force pull a thing to blowing it the gently caress up anyway Same logic as all cars that careen off a cliff or fall even three feet have to burst into flames.  That's honestly where the movie became irredeemable. Chewie being dead would've been a good way to give the movie real stakes - but NOPE, five minutes later "oh hey he's still alive," fifteen minutes after that, Rey's ~spidey sense~ goes off telling her he's alive... This movie was worse than Into Darkness in the sense that nothing mattered. Kirk dies, but gets revived by Khan's magic blood because *reasons*. No one's allowed to feel sad because that might lead to negative trending!
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Dec 20, 2019 10:04
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Did Rey seriously just eyeball the Wayfinder against the Death Star chunks like she was trying to eyeball an eighth?
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Dec 20, 2019 10:04
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Unoriginal Name posted:This was made especially dumb by her sensing him a half mile above the city a few scenes later. More dumb than Kylo not sensing that she flew right past him up to the ship as he was flying down?
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Dec 20, 2019 10:05
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Onmi posted:Another thing that this one had that wasn't in the movie was that... everyone was with Rey on the Tattooine scene, not just her and BB-8, and also, no Kylo/Rey kiss. He gets Yeet into a pit and he's out of the film. Ray just doesn't die from "Running out of Force" in the battle and thus is able to leave. Seriously, what the gently caress was with Rey constantly abandoning her friends in this movie. She goes on a pointless fugue state which gets Chewbacca kidnapped and, as far as they know, murdered. So, yeah, moral message about sticking with your friends, sure. Except no, that doesn't happen at all, she continues to abandon her friends over and over again, royally loving things up every single time, and no one ever really yells at her about it. Poe tells her she should stay with them at the very start of the movie, but clearly that discussion didn't stick.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:06
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:For a second I thought you wrote that Palpatine was black now, that would be quite the twist The ultimate power of saying the N-Word with the Force. Ok, that's a bad joke, but I'm keeping it in. I should really go to sleep.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:07
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:For a second I thought you wrote that Palpatine was black now, that would be quite the twist decomposition can do that tho
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Dec 20, 2019 10:10
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I just about lost it when they gave the medal to Chewie. There's fan service, and then there's shameless pandering. Know the difference you loving hacks.  I honestly feel like the whole first half of this movie was a loving MMO questline, and not a good one. Here go to this location for 10 minutes, meet a brand new character who's about as well-developed as the Groverhaus, get the maguffin, and leave again. I did like Ben's redemption scene, and getting a few video game / cartoon jedi in there for the last scene was a nice touch. And of the course the movie's cinematography is beautiful, and most the actors do well with what they've given (Sorry you got shunted off to the side Kelly Tran, but you were a TLJ character.) I honestly can't wait for the tell-all about this movie to come out. I'm no director or Hollywood insider, but it feels like people took all the (toxic and misplaced) backlash from the TLJ, and decided they had to course correct right back from fresh new take on the franchise, right back right into those mediocre and tired old plot-lines. I'm just real disappointed, gently caress man. I enjoyed TFA for what it was, and loved TLJ, Rogue One, hell I even had fun with Solo. But this? Ugh
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Dec 20, 2019 10:11
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Wait, why the gently caress did Kylo need to turn good to do what he wanted to do anyway, which was help Rey and try and kill the emperor? He was emotionally conflicted because he had an evil lightsaber?
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Dec 20, 2019 10:11
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The work that Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver put into this movie is super commendable. The story might be wishy washy, but gently caress if those two didn't turn in some really good performances. Kylo Ren doesn't really have a ton of dialogue, but Driver's physical and facial acting was super loving solid.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:13
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teagone posted:The work that Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver put into this movie is super commendable. The story might be wishy washy, but gently caress if those two didn't turn in some really good performances. Kylo Ren doesn't really have a ton of dialogue, but Driver's physical and facial acting was super loving solid. The idea of two people on the opposite side of the force and the war sharing this unique magical bond is a good one and their dynamic together is great and it’s so disappointing it’s for no real point.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:17
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Golden Bee posted:Wait, why the gently caress did Kylo need to turn good to do what he wanted to do anyway, which was help Rey and try and kill the emperor? He wanted to kill the Emperor in the bad way, with scary music playing. He learned he needed to kill him in the good way, with majestic music playing. The force is basically just the ability to hear John Williams.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:18
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rey should've got her yellow saber before the last scene of this trilogy
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Dec 20, 2019 10:20
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Wait they just blew up a planet. What planet was that?
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Dec 20, 2019 10:22
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Kajima Also, "Never underestimate a droid" was the most phoned-in line; I secretly hope the majority of the film before the droid black-market stuff is from Treverrow's script...but who loving knows at this point.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:23
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:gently caress this noise. This just showed how great TLJ was. It's too bad Rian Johnson couldn't close out the trilogy because he gave the only truly compelling story so far. Also whoever edited this film needs to get loving banished from the industry for good. It was so SO SO horribly edited. The pacing was godawful. Also everything after the Han Solo scene was trash. Even the scene with Luke was weak and void of any charisma. And that had to be the weakest final battle I've seen maybe ever. Blow up their compass transmitter tower? TLJ was loving terrible. You want to criticse ROS for being a dumb movie? gently caress me TLJ takes the cake for absolute dumb. Space Chase Shittyness: - Space Fuel which has never been mentioned before - Laser Cannons that are able to lob lasers at ships...in space where there is no gravity. Light bends in parabolic arcs. Or maybe it was launching plasma, which still wouldn't fly in a parabolic arc in a zero-gravity environment - When a ship runs out of fuel, it would keep flying at the speed the engines died at. It wouldn't be able to increase its momentum, but it wouldn't suddenly disappear and "fall" into range of the guns. - This entire premise for this movie was loving stupid and didn't suit Star Wars. gently caress your "subverting expectation" bullshit. This poo poo was just dumb. Casino Shittyness: - Seriously, look at it, it belongs in the prequels - Space parking tickets - Genuinely boring scenes with some cringe dialogue and acting. Bad Decisions: - The Casino happened because General Honda didn't do what a good leader should do and tell people her plan to not die. - Which resulted in a mutiny and said secret mission behind her incompetent rear end. - Said secret mission resulted in the slicer selling out her secret plan and causing her own lovely secret plan to fail. - If she was a competent leader, there wouldn't have been a mutiny, a secret mission or any of that poo poo and her plan might've worked well. - Which means everybody died getting to the Not-Hoth planet - Which means they got their asses kicked in that battle and it kinda destroyed the rebels due to incompetence. Snoke: - Rendered him an absolutely pointless character after he'd been set up as some ultimate bad guy. - Did not replace him with a credible threat so there was nothing to work with in this new movie. First Order: - Didn't answer any questions raised in TFA about how they rose to power after the Emperor got killed - Seriously who the gently caress are these guys. This should've been explored but wasn't. Rose: - Decided to stop Finn's suicide run. Said suicide run could've given them a big advantage in the battle, but NOPE. Doomed them all for love. That's worth it. It did 2 things well. The Ren\Rey stuff was well done and genuinely interesting. It also set an interesting platform for resolution in this movie and I think Adam\Daisy acted their balls off. I also enjoyed the Rey training scenes, BUT I disagree almost entirely with what they did to Luke's character. Don't pretend that TLJ is some moment of genius that ROS has fouled. TLJ had prequel level stupidity to it and did NOTHING to help set up ROS.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:24
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Wait they just blew up a planet. What planet was that? The one they lobotomized C-3PO on. MoaM posted:Also, "Never underestimate a droid" was the most phoned-in line; I secretly hope the majority of the film before the droid black-market stuff is from Treverrow's script...but who loving knows at this point. That line is actually from a deleted scene in TFA, so they probably only put it in because it was one of the few lines they had from Carrie Fischer. Horrible Taste fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Dec 20, 2019 |
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Dec 20, 2019 10:26
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Dec 20, 2019 10:28
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All of this is mostly pedantic nitpicking that doesn't critique the narrative goals of the film, but instead calls attention to things that either don't really need explaining or are a matter of opinion. Just want to point that out.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:31
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teagone posted:All of this is mostly pedantic nitpicking that doesn't critique the narrative goals of the film, but instead calls attention to things that either don't need explaining or are a matter of opinion. Just want to point that out. But mah realistic space physics in a Star War!
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Dec 20, 2019 10:32
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sorry I stopped reading when you started bitching about space physics in a Star Wars movie.
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teagone posted:All of this is mostly pedantic nitpicking that doesn't critique the narrative goals of the film, but instead calls attention to things that either don't really need explaining or are a matter of opinion. Just want to point that out. So justify General Holdo's terrible loving decisions which resulted in a mutiny and a secret mission behind her back, that ended up dooming the resistance.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:34
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:gently caress this noise. This just showed how great TLJ was. It's too bad Rian Johnson couldn't close out the trilogy because he gave the only truly compelling story so far. Also whoever edited this film needs to get loving banished from the industry for good. It was so SO SO horribly edited. The pacing was godawful. Also everything after the Han Solo scene was trash. Even the scene with Luke was weak and void of any charisma. And that had to be the weakest final battle I've seen maybe ever. Blow up their compass transmitter tower? This is laughable just like TLJ was laughably bad with the exception of some bits and pieces. Should people refrain from criticizing a movie because it might result in the studio making GBS threads its pants and somehow making the next movie even worse? gently caress off with this crap. The third movie was doomed in any case, because TLJ hosed up any sensible setup. The course correction that would inevitably result in the next movie being flawed was already present in TLJ.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:35
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H13 posted:So justify General Holdo's terrible loving decisions which resulted in a mutiny and a secret mission behind her back, that ended up dooming the resistance. oh so you're really leaning into dumb misogynist part of the crit
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Dec 20, 2019 10:37
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H13 posted:So justify General Holdo's terrible loving decisions which resulted in a mutiny and a secret mission behind her back, that ended up dooming the resistance. There could be spies on the ship? Haven't you heard of a "need to know" basis? This is why we have classified level poo poo in government.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:38
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Captain Jesus posted:The third movie was doomed in any case, because TLJ hosed up any sensible setup. The course correction that would inevitably result in the next movie being flawed was already present in TLJ. Hahaha I can't believe people are blaming TLJ for this, it opened up the mythology in a way where if they had the gutts they could've gone in nearly any direction, instead they tried to go back to the boring retread that TFA was and hosed it up even more!
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Dec 20, 2019 10:38
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Captain Jesus posted:This is laughable just like TLJ was laughably bad with the exception of some bits and pieces. Should people refrain from criticizing a movie because it might result in the studio making GBS threads its pants and somehow making the next movie even worse? gently caress off with this crap. I like it when studios respond to legitimate criticisms like racists not wanting an Asian woman in the movie.
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Dec 20, 2019 10:39
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Quantum Shart posted:oh so you're really leaning into dumb misogynist part of the crit No, if I was being misogynistic, I would have blamed those terrible decisions on her being a woman. As in: "If a man was in charge instead, they wouldn't have made those decisions" If it was a male character and they made those decisions, I would be asking the same questions.
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Captain Jesus posted:This is laughable just like TLJ was laughably bad with the exception of some bits and pieces. Should people refrain from criticizing a movie because it might result in the studio making GBS threads its pants and somehow making the next movie even worse? gently caress off with this crap. Nah it really wasn't because TLJ basically wrapped up the story to the point where the third film could do whatever it wanted. JJ is just so creatively bankrupt that he literally dug up the Emperor's corpse to replace Snoke instead of go off into an interesting direction and continue the themes established in Episode VIII...
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