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Ambaire posted:So I just spent 30 minutes on the MGS wiki looking up stuff, and here's where I went wrong: I had assumed MGS5 was a spiritual sequel, and not a literal sequel that required knowledge of the other games to have the slightest idea of what was going on in 5. Now that I actually have an idea of what was going on, I can see how the stuff fit, and I think I'm gonna give it another try. You're in roughly the position I was, wrt MGS experience when I first played it. The big thing I recommend, play until you get the ability to do your missions by going on jeep trips with your dog buddy riding along, kidnapping all your enemies by balloon. That was how I was sold on it, and I promised myself to play until I hit that point. It was enough to push through some (admittedly large) issues along the way and realize I downright loved it despite them.
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Captain Hygiene posted:You're in roughly the position I was, wrt MGS experience when I first played it. The big thing I recommend, play until you get the ability to do your missions by going on jeep trips with your dog buddy riding along, kidnapping all your enemies by balloon. That was how I was sold on it, and I promised myself to play until I hit that point. It was enough to push through some (admittedly large) issues along the way and realize I downright loved it despite them. Yeah, despite its well-documented shortcomings which regularly pop up in this very thread and (arguably) semi-unfinished state it was left to, it still somehow manages to be one of the best games released for the PS3/XBOX 360 generation. Just don't think too much about the story and get a guide for the first tennish missions until the second map in Africa opens up. EDIT: Or if you do not find any sane guide, grind until you get the first RPG launcher before you do the "beehive" mission. gently caress up that copter and in the last part, just call your horse and run away from the base. Others are more or less tolerable going in blind. Der Kyhe has a new favorite as of 17:41 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 17:35
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I never unlocked the Tennis Missions 
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Dec 19, 2019 17:43
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Samuringa posted:I never unlocked the Tennis Missions Do you blame your shelf?
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Dec 19, 2019 17:51
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Ambaire posted:And here's a few snippets of why exactly I think that hospital intro was so loving stupid. Did you know you can beat this whole sequence by holding forward occasionally? that's all the gameplay required until the shooting starts, which is about 10 minutes left of the entire ordeal. You've spent far more time bitching about it than playing it, and hilariously, you missed out on the entire part of one of the most fun games released this generation. Olaf The Stout has a new favorite as of 18:55 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 18:50
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Olaf The Stout posted:Did you know you can beat this whole sequence by holding forward occasionally? that's all the gameplay required until the shooting starts, which is about 10 minutes left of the entire ordeal. You've spent far more time bitching about it than playing it, and hilariously, you missed out on the entire part of one of the most fun games released this generation. This is the PYF Little Things Dragging This Game Down thread, correct? I was unaware you considered it to be the Lambast Others For Posting Stuff According To The Thread Title. Also, you took that post completely out of context with the other posts on that page. If you'd actually read them all, you'd have known I'd completed that sequence and the first mission after it. edit: Werong Bustope posted:If you want to get a feel for the series - and Phantom Pain is 100% the least OTT and crazy of the lot, in many ways - you can't go wrong with watching Chip & Ironicus' LP of MGS3. It's a pretty good crash course in Metal Gear insanity from the ridiculously convoluted plots to the verbose musings on the nature of war, to the demented level of attention to detail and weird poo poo you can do. Thank you for suggesting this. I found the let's play of it and this is the most hilarious stuff I've ever seen. Watching Snake stomp Ocelot and his team of baddies was very satisfying. Ambaire has a new favorite as of 19:17 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 19:02
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Honestly the less you know of mgs before you play 5 the better, because otherwise you just recognise that the narrative and set pieces are largely repeats from the previous games (especially 4) but with a find & replace of nanomachines with metallic archea or vocal cord parasites
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Dec 19, 2019 19:22
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Werong Bustope posted:This is also true. MGS3 was my first entry into the series and while it's more self contained than the others, there's a lot that just washes over you if you don't know all the established lore but it never really matters. What was interesting with PP for me was how many of my friends who'd never played a Metal Gear game before ended up loving it despite having no clue why anything was happening or who anyone was. There's only really three things you actually need to know about any given Metal Gear Solid game, unless you're a big nerd for the setting: If anyone is interested, Dunkey recently made a Metal Gear Solid video that actually does an incredible job of laying out the entire plotline of the entire series in about 7 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaLiLRVeaZA Also of note, I believe Metal Gear Solid is the longest-running story in videogame history, that's never been rebooted and is all part of the same consistent universe. MGSV: TPP has sequences, explanations, and references to Metal Gear, the 1987 NES game.
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Ambaire posted:This is the PYF Little Things Dragging This Game Down thread, correct? I was unaware you considered it to be the Lambast Others For Posting Stuff According To The Thread Title. Oh i read that you couldn't figure out how to ride away on a horse in another mission also despite having 2000+ hours in Big Brain Video Games. Olaf The Stout has a new favorite as of 19:27 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 19:24
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oh my god this thread has become the longest and dumbest codec conversation
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Dec 19, 2019 19:28
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Pastry of the Year posted:oh my god this thread has become the longest and dumbest codec conversation Codec conversation?!?
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Dec 19, 2019 19:34
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"It's Skull Face, Snake...he's trying to drag this game down!" "...?!"
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Ambaire posted:Thank you for suggesting this. I found the let's play of it and this is the most hilarious stuff I've ever seen. Watching Snake stomp Ocelot and his team of baddies was very satisfying.  It really is a top notch LP, have fun!
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Dec 19, 2019 19:37
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im pooping! posted:its difficult enough to understand even if you have played all the others. for a series that aged poorly i can only imagine reading what must be a total cf of a wiki synopsis may be a significant hurdle to playing them out of sequence. i will recommend chip and ironicus LPs because they are cool and good. The plot's actually pretty simple to get caught up on and makes perfect sense. This is all you need: https://youtu.be/aaLiLRVeaZA
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The other thread mentioned GTA4 and it reminded me of the massive amounts of ludonarrative dissonance that game gave me. Cutscene Nico waxes on and on about not being a bad guy and he’s only doing these evil things for the money and as a necessity, but as a player I had over 100 grand in the bank, multiple properties, and would drive on the sidewalk for miles only to go right back into another cutscene where Nico laments having to perform violent acts. That’s why I liked Tommy the most, he knew what he was and the story never tried to make him out as some tortured soul. Though it is a very delicate balance because I absolutely hated Trevor, but that was also attributed to all of his ‘lol monkey cheese’ random poo poo he would pull.
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Dec 19, 2019 19:46
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is it ludonarrative dissonance or is it nico lying to himself about his motivations the same way walter white does in breaking bad?
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Dec 19, 2019 20:02
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Captain Hygiene posted:"It's Skull Face, Snake...he's trying to drag this game down!" Drag it down!?
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Dec 19, 2019 20:06
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:Drag it down!? Dragging it down is a tactical move where the object in general shitposts or hinders the topic or story enough so that the entire product and/or service suffers from the level of non-relevant stupid poo poo usually making it unappealing for the general audience. But surely you Rat know enough about this action but in case you need to redo this action, click reply or post and write a message to this codec conversation-based thread about games and or their components, which drag you down.
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Dec 19, 2019 20:13
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Pastry of the Year posted:oh my god this thread has become the longest and dumbest codec conversation It would have to get a lot longer and a whole lot dumber to match the B & B Corps stories.
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Dec 19, 2019 20:20
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Ambaire posted:This is the PYF Little Things Dragging This Game Down thread, correct? I was unaware you considered it to be the Lambast Others For Posting Stuff According To The Thread Title. Well, he's got us there. TBH, I've heard a LOT about the hospital section and just how long it takes to get into the meat of the game that it's led me to putting off playing it as well, similar to some of the things I've heard about the methodical nature of RDR2, so thanks for saving me some time, thread. But how come you can't beat the hospital/horse chase thing, hard save and then load replays from there? Is it just one save slot or does it have to do with NG+ and having a bunch of cool poo poo you've unlocked?
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BiggerBoat posted:TBH, I've heard a LOT about the hospital section and just how long it takes to get into the meat of the game that it's led me to putting off playing it as well, similar to some of the things I've heard about the methodical nature of RDR2, so thanks for saving me some time, thread. Seems to be only one save slot (which is a serious detriment if one is worried about the possibility of save file corruption and losing potentially dozens / hundreds of hours to no fault of ones own) but some googling found a MGSV Save Manager on GitHub which should alleviate that concern.
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moosecow333 posted:The other thread mentioned GTA4 and it reminded me of the massive amounts of ludonarrative dissonance that game gave me. This bugged me, but what really killed GTA4 for me was playing it straight after saints row 2, and having like 5 total outfits to pick from. I know that sounds weird, but the clothing system from SR2 kinda ruined me.
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The best part of GTA V is when five hours in you drop the game and play Yakuza 0 instead.
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Dec 19, 2019 21:00
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GTA 4 is Vice City and 5 is San Andreas.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:This bugged me, but what really killed GTA4 for me was playing it straight after saints row 2, and having like 5 total outfits to pick from. I know that sounds weird, but the clothing system from SR2 kinda ruined me. SR2 (and 3) completely ruined GTA for me. Saint's Row is a increasingly silly and sophomoric series but they know how to have fun. British society has only really reached cargo cult levels of comprehension of the concept of "fun", and it primarily manifests by putting the sex number everywhere in the background of a dry, tiresome diatribe about the human cost of violence that you're mechanically required to inflict. Saint's Row has you blast liquid poo poo at fancy houses for money.
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Pastry of the Year posted:oh my god this thread has become the longest and dumbest codec conversation 
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Byzantine posted:GTA 4 is Vice City and 5 is San Andreas. Where does GTA London 1961 fit in? Edit: oh poo poo there were two in London? 1969 and 1961
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Riatsala posted:Saint's Row has you blast liquid poo poo at fancy houses for
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One More Fat Nerd posted:the clothing system from SR2 kinda ruined me. Riatsala posted:British society has only really reached cargo cult levels of comprehension of the concept of "fun", and it primarily manifests by putting the sex number everywhere in the background of a dry, tiresome diatribe about the human cost of violence that you're mechanically required to inflict.
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GTA isn't synonymous with British society. It's just stupid about American society in all the ways Judge Dredd isn't. Oi mate? Mate. Djou know in the colonies People isn't a jazz rag? Swear on me mum. Anyway sort through these adverts and see if any of the yank consumer goods sound like sex words, there's a lad.
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Cleretic posted:...it's the fifth one. It's got the number 5 in its name. It's a direct sequel to the non-numbered sequel to Metal Gear Solid 3, and a direct prequel to Metal Gear. Which means, canonically speaking, it's the third game in the series if I'm not missing any (I think portable ops is non-canon?). Sequels are crazy. Inspector Gesicht posted:The best part of GTA V is when five hours in you drop the game and play Yakuza 0 instead. Sleeping Dogs is also acceptable. Yakuza 0 is real good though, arguably too good because every hour I spent playing Kiwami and Kiwami 2 I kind of wished I was playing 0 for the first time instead because 0 is really, really good.
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I thought Metal Gear POOPS was canon except for the bits that were contradicted and retconned.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I thought Metal Gear POOPS was canon except for the bits that were contradicted and retconned. It's like one cutscene and you can just regularly shower to avoid it
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I thought Metal Gear POOPS was canon except for the bits that were contradicted and retconned. So uh, I got morbidly curious and googled that and what the gently caress, this is actually a MGS5 gameplay mechanic?!? Although I think it belongs in PYF little things in games thread instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AqjlWa7uUo
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Hah I had no idea that was in V, I was just repeating a joke about POrtable OPS' name.
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Ambaire posted:So uh, I got morbidly curious and googled that and what the gently caress, this is actually a MGS5 gameplay mechanic?!? Although I think it belongs in PYF little things in games thread instead. For sure, you can tell your horse to poo poo wherever it is standing (But only if it trusts you) in the road and enemies can run over the poo poo and wipe the gently caress out. The hospital bitching is the most overrated bitching in forever, it's a playable cutscene in a MGS game and it's over forever in 45 minutes and it's impossible to fail. If you're on somethingawful in 2019 you've logged thousands of hours of videogames in your life jesus loving christ.
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Tiggum posted:No game before or since has been a better shopping/dressup simulator than Saints Row 2. The variety of clothes and the ability to combine them in different ways and wear them differently is just fantastic It's great, but WWE games are one step above it. Having those options in a real game would be nice.
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Olaf The Stout posted:it's over forever in 45 minutes Other than the second time you have to do it. And any other times, if you want to replay the game (because for some reason 5 doesn't have a NG+ option)
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Giving the Witcher 3 another try. The game is visually hideous. The world looks ok but the npcs are so janky and ugly, they don't seem to belong in it. They look like CPR dummies.
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JackSplater posted:Other than the second time you have to do it. And any other times, if you want to replay the game (because for some reason 5 doesn't have a NG+ option) Yup. I'd like to give it a replay, but I can't bring myself to sit through all the stuff it takes to get to the game I want to play. If ever a game needed a NG+ option, it was this one.
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