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Ingmar terdman posted:So was matt smith in this and if not what we he going to be? ian mcdiarmid was only brought onto this film very late. matt smith was rumored to be a young, revitalized palpatine. i'd say that's true but he was scrapped when someone said 'get old palpatine in there somewhere' happyhippy posted:Nothing really. goon in 'doesn't understand movies cost money to make and market' shocker!! 
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No, Chewbacca getting the medal was the best loving thing ever. It also showed how Maz really cared about Chewy also!
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The sequel trilogy is the trilogy of trilogies in microcosm. Maybe.
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Maz didn't feel like the same character in this one compared to the other movies Felt really low energy and that was before she explained that Leia was gonna kill herself
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Just let Matt Smith have an actual role in a movie like what the hell
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Movie money doesn't mean poo poo compared to all the merchandise profits Disney has likely made off each movie, bar maybe Rogue One or Solo given how popular Star Wars still seems as a media entity.
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:I think it's in her video about the live action Beauty and the Beast remake that Lindsay Ellis talks about Disney using those films to try to atone for the criticisms of the older ones. So, slight tangent, but whenever I notice this it scrapes the writer side of me raw. Like... some comic writers do this thing, where they'll want to change a characters name/hero identity or they'll want to do commentary on it, and so, as an example, they'll have She-Hulk complain about being named She-Hulk. But... that doesn't make any sense when, storywise, Jen's supposed to be the one who came up with her own name, acting as if it was a label placed upon her by external but in-universe forces makes no fuckin' sense. Some writers tend to love to get Meta or essentially talk to the viewer/reader through the script, but the issue is those things don't make any sense when viewed within the lens of the universe itself. moist turtleneck posted:Maz didn't feel like the same character in this one compared to the other movies I still don't get Maz's whole character. She seems more like a plot device, she exists to pass on Anakin's sabre-like it's loving Excalibur (A good question, for another time), push along the plot... the 'plot' of The Last Jedi regarding Casinopolis Zone, and exposit for Leia in this film. Who... IS she?
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$185-195 mil opening weekend is not very good when this is the finale of a trilogy It's pretty bizarre that every movie in this trilogy has also had a smaller opening than the previous one. That's not what is supposed to happen. I would also imagine that this movie will have short legs and probably a steep drop after this weekend.
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moist turtleneck posted:Maz didn't feel like the same character in this one compared to the other movies Leia has her mom's inexplicable death power
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Raccooon posted:its official the prequels are superior to the sequels. While The Last Jedi still best movie of either trilogy. Can you really compare The Last Jedi with A New Hope though? A New Hope has the benefit of being the only self-contained story.
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FlamingLiberal posted:$185-195 mil opening weekend is not very good when this is the finale of a trilogy “YEAHHHHHHH STAR WAR” only worked for the first film because it had been so long. Then it became typical.
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Raccooon posted:its official the prequels are superior to the sequels. While The Last Jedi still best movie of either trilogy. this is the truest post in the whole thread
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The sequel trilogy was -a back to basics reintroduction that was competently made and everyone gave a pass because it seemed like it was a good jumping off point -a weird, imperfect movie that had a vision and attempted to do something interesting -an apology note on top of a baroque retooling of the first movie with all of the junk we let slide back then but none of the competency It is clearly impossible to make a third Star Wars movie and not have the film betray that it's a multi-year soul-sucking odyssey. Which is coincidentally what happens to all our force users
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Raccooon posted:its official the prequels are superior to the sequels. While The Last Jedi still best movie of either trilogy. CONGREGATION: And also with you.
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Pollyanna posted:“YEAHHHHHHH STAR WAR” only worked for the first film because it had been so long. Then it became typical. Also, it only worked there for the people it worked on because it came with the caveat of "Okay, so they're playing it safe for the first one because they needed to tell a simple story to get everyone in." AND when TFA came out, we were not buried under a tremendous tarfire of nostalgia baiting from hollywood studio's, so people are getting burned out on the shamelessness of it.
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Ingmar terdman posted:It is clearly impossible to make a third Star Wars movie and not have the film betray that it's a multi-year soul-sucking odyssey. Which is coincidentally what happens to all our force users Third prequel movie was the best of that trilogy though, by a country mile even.
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I just realized something super hosed up about the "chewie gets a medal" gag at the end Like, yeah, the joke was always "ha ha chewie didn't get a medal" but the gag seems to imply that it wasn't just he didn't get a medal (for any number of reasons a writer could make up), but that he was actively snubbed and has been wanting a medal for decades and never got one
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moist turtleneck posted:Maz didn't feel like the same character in this one compared to the other movies Wait why is Maz giving out medals? Isn't she like a bartender/black market something gunfighter hacker thing?
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2house2fly posted:Wait why is Maz giving out medals? Isn't she like a bartender/black market something gunfighter hacker thing? A good question - for another time.
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Vitamin P posted:Third prequel movie was the best of that trilogy though, by a country mile even.
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Zeta Acosta posted:who is maz Schrödingers union militant.
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Zeta Acosta posted:who is maz A good question - for another time. Hey can we compile a list of poo poo that was either unexplained or didn't go anywhere?
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Maz is a new and beloved Star Wars Universe character.
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Blarghalt posted:I just realized something super hosed up about the "chewie gets a medal" gag at the end He shoulda tossed it Luke with saber style. And jar jar in exile should have been the old lady in the last scene this is indisputable
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Ingmar terdman posted:He shoulda tossed it Luke with saber style. Or tear the wrapper off and eat the delicious chocolate inside!
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Quantum Shart posted:Release the Rian Johnson cut
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Blarghalt posted:I just realized something super hosed up about the "chewie gets a medal" gag at the end Obviously it was Leia stopping it from happening
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Remember the cave of mirror of reflections in TLJ. My theory is the original script called for the reflections hint at her parentage (with either Jedi linerage or Sith linerage). But Rian Johnson threw that out and turned Rey's background into a "low born" "commoner". But JJ did another 180 on that concept and now the mirror cave subplot is pointless.
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I'm not one of those folks who enjoys the prequels and I don't think I've watched them since they came out... but drat, at least they had some kind of coherent vision. They coherently sucked but George was telling the story he wanted to tell. Looking back at this trilogy and the little perfunctory solo movies is just depressing. I would honestly rather have seen George do another prequel-level shitfest than what we ended up getting. Can't imagine many people are going to look back at this fondly.
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Chomposaur posted:I'm not one of those folks who enjoys the prequels and I don't think I've watched them since they came out... but drat, at least they had some kind of coherent vision. They coherently sucked but George was telling the story he wanted to tell. Yeah that's how I'm feeling about this, though I loved Rogue One and Solo was so-so, but I enjoyed it way more than this.
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Onmi posted:So, slight tangent, but whenever I notice this it scrapes the writer side of me raw. Like... some comic writers do this thing, where they'll want to change a characters name/hero identity or they'll want to do commentary on it, and so, as an example, they'll have She-Hulk complain about being named She-Hulk. But... that doesn't make any sense when, storywise, Jen's supposed to be the one who came up with her own name, acting as if it was a label placed upon her by external but in-universe forces makes no fuckin' sense. Some writers tend to love to get Meta or essentially talk to the viewer/reader through the script, but the issue is those things don't make any sense when viewed within the lens of the universe itself. baby yoda mamma
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I feel odd about this movie, because I felt it was decently paced and I liked the character interactions and I enjoyed watching it, but the plot was garbage right from the opening crawl and the more I think about the plot the more irritated I get over how much it sucked and made no sense and pissed away the potential TLJ provided to go somewhere interesting with itBlarghalt posted:I just realized something super hosed up about the "chewie gets a medal" gag at the end Umm obviously it's a setup for a Chewie / Wreck-It Ralph buddy flick raditts fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Dec 22, 2019 |
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Horizon Burning posted:ian mcdiarmid was only brought onto this film very late. matt smith was rumored to be a young, revitalized palpatine. i'd say that's true but he was scrapped when someone said 'get old palpatine in there somewhere' what about merchandising
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romanowski posted:what about merchandising The real question is "What about the fact all studios lie about the profits of films to manipulate how much they have to pay out various sources?".
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The prequels were just better than the first triology.
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As kid I never noticed that Chewie didn’t have a medal. As an adult, I didn’t care that he didn’t get a medal. So this medal stuff is like the wookiepedia people going to through the script and adding a “finally” note to that exchange. I hate fans that will not budge on anything , you don’t have to like/love everything but things have to be let go and you gotta move on from dumb poo poo like that.
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