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al-azad posted:Poe's sidelining after his entire arc of learning how to be a true leader is second in character betrayals, the first being Rose who got fewer lines than unicycle-droid. I like the part where Rey needs a pep talk from ghost zizek luke AFTER she manages to turn ben solo but i guess they had to get her in luke's x-wing so they can reference the thing
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Kylo busted a nut so hard after kissing Rey it blew his goddamn heart out.
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I like how that movie title references how the whole family of Skywalker came together at the end.
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How can Skywalker rise when "up" is relative in space?
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Dec 23, 2019 00:43
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The Vector of Skywalker
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Clarste posted:But you have to distinguish between the Sith as a specific cult and the Sith as just really angry Jedi. The most realistic thing about Star Wars tbh
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YaketySass posted:How can Skywalker rise when "up" is relative in space? There is a control tower which tells them which way to go.
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xarph posted:Once the blu ray is out and people can easily fool with it in Premiere, I really want to see a supercut of leia talking in reverse angle to the bruce lee cardboard cutouts in Game of Death. I want one of those cuts where they loop and stretch a clip out so a scene is forty times longer. Of the scene where Kylo is shifting Rey’s corpse around. It felt long but I want that extendo cut.
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well why not posted:I want one of those cuts where they loop and stretch a clip out so a scene is forty times longer. Of the scene where Kylo is shifting Rey’s corpse around. It felt long but I want that extendo cut. I want to replace the festival scene with the entire pod race from the phantom menace.
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Dec 23, 2019 01:16
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this movie features some of my favourite Skywalkers, notably: Darth Vader, Leia Organa, and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo
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Dec 23, 2019 01:38
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Did the random new ex-stormtroopers serve any useful plot purpose other than giving us space camels to ride on the star destroyer? There was a scene that I guess was supposed to be a heart to heart with Finn, and then some sort of (what I read as) spinoff tease with Lando?
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Dec 23, 2019 01:43
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Martytoof posted:Did the random new ex-stormtroopers serve any useful plot purpose other than giving us space camels to ride on the star destroyer? "We want Finn to have a love interest but it can't be Rose because we are cowards afraid of racists so we made a female version of Finn instead."
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I'm still mad they brought in Harrison Ford to be a not-force ghost when Anakin is clearly the better option for that scene. You continue the grandfather theme, Kylo gets his face-turn pep talk from the guy he's been wrongfully idolizing, force ghosts are already a thing so you don't have to explain "memories" or whatever, and it adds some more fan service to the pile. I get that Hayden is from the dreaded prequels but it's still part of the *saga* that's ending. Close some loops!
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Hobo Clown posted:I'm still mad they brought in Harrison Ford to be a not-force ghost when Anakin is clearly the better option for that scene. You continue the grandfather theme, Kylo gets his face-turn pep talk from the guy he's been wrongfully idolizing, force ghosts are already a thing so you don't have to explain "memories" or whatever, and it adds some more fan service to the pile. I get that Hayden is from the dreaded prequels but it's still part of the *saga* that's ending. Close some loops! gently caress you are right Anakin would have owned there.
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Right but THIS WILL BEGIN TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT so they can’t acknowledge the prequels.
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ImpAtom posted:"We want Finn to have a love interest but it can't be Rose because we are cowards afraid of racists so we made a female version of Finn instead." Honestly there's nothing that would piss of chuds upset about an female Asian character than a Black woman character but they made sure to keep her in the background with fuckall to do so crisis averted I guess. euphronius posted:gently caress you are right Given all the throwbacks and fan service they included skipping this one is just illogical.
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euphronius posted:gently caress you are right The Han scene is necessary because narratively it's the final push Ben needed to embrace to the light again, much how it was that same mirrored choice that nearly sealed him off to the dark side. It works fine, imo. If force-ghost Anakin were to be anywhere in the film, I think it should've either been during the moments where Ben was struggling to rise up from the pit that Sheev threw him into, or the moment where he's embracing Rey just before he brings her back to life by sacrificing himself. The latter was suggested in the other thread, and would've resonated strongly with Anakin not being able to save the one he loved from dying.
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Walked out on this trash two thirds through, read a synopsis, and I'm not seeing another. What a mess of a movie. The lack of a single artistic vision doomed this trilogy; this film trying to simultaneously develop plot points from TFA and reverse plot points from TLJ was a train wreck. Characters get one line and are then pushed aside forever, new characters show up for 15 minutes then peace out. Everything is undeveloped and poorly presented. Bad, bad, bad movie.
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Dec 23, 2019 01:59
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$175 mil opening for your finale, which is down $45 mil from the previous entry and $65 mil from the first one is really not a good sign I'll be more curious as to how short the legs on this film are since I have to think that the most die-hard fans will have gone opening weekend and will probably not be rewatching
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Dec 23, 2019 02:00
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I saw the first two in theaters, won't be doing the same for this one. It just sounds like an absolute waste of time, albeit an entertaining one if you ignore all the failings and just focus on the spectacle.
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Dec 23, 2019 02:04
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The Rise of Skywalker refers to the erection Ben had right after kissing Rey and just before he died.
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FlamingLiberal posted:$175 mil opening for your finale, which is down $45 mil from the previous entry and $65 mil from the first one is really not a good sign As for this movie, I quite enjoyed it. Time will tell whether or not I liked it, if you can appreciate the distinction. And a lot more threads were carried over from Last Jedi than people led me to believe, so really the only dropped elements of TLJ that bother me are Rose being borderline memory-holed and Jedi saviours not having to be from special families. Seriously, though. The Galaxy is one small town where everybody knows each other and is related and they need to stop that.
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Doronin posted:That show is awesome as hell. I say that with zero irony, because it's really godamn good. So so dumb. Just make it a discovery that Palpatine brought a map with him everywhere and of course it's at the throne room because that's where he died. Done. No mcguffin and there's room to breathe.
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the average person does not give the slightest gently caress that there are twitter slapfights over star wars, you can't blame worse box offices numbers on that
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Seriously, though. The Galaxy is one small town where everybody knows each other and is related and they need to stop that. This and the theme of "nothing and no one is beyond redemption" are things that keep me from really enjoying most Star Wars things.
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Mat Cauthon posted:This and the theme of "nothing and no one is beyond redemption" are things that keep me from really enjoying most Star Wars things.
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Honestly the redemption stuff is fineish to me, it's the romance that annoyed me way more.
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I'm glad at least that Hux remained an idiot slapstick fascist to the very end.
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My expectations were rock bottom going in but Holy poo poo "Who are you and what's your last name?" asks the old lady who apparently passes by this abandoned burnt out homestead every so often to see if someone moved in. But good job looking and sounding like a star wars I guess. No mistaking it for some other film.
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Hobo Clown posted:I'm glad at least that Hux remained an idiot slapstick fascist to the very end. Hux is probably the best character across all these movies, from his crazy speech in Force Awakens to getting unceremoniously blasted. He's a little poo poo through and through and I love it.
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I agree with the idea that they shouldn't split up trilogies between multiple directors and writers again; this trilogy would've been better if it had been 100% Abrams or 100% Johnson. Hobo Clown posted:I'm still mad they brought in Harrison Ford to be a not-force ghost when Anakin is clearly the better option for that scene. You continue the grandfather theme, Kylo gets his face-turn pep talk from the guy he's been wrongfully idolizing, force ghosts are already a thing so you don't have to explain "memories" or whatever, and it adds some more fan service to the pile. I get that Hayden is from the dreaded prequels but it's still part of the *saga* that's ending. Close some loops! I was so happy to see Harrison Ford that I didn't think of this, but you're right that this would've made more sense. That said, I did kind of want the final fight to end in a Father-Son Kamehameha (or the Luke/Leia/Anakin/Ben equivalent) so the more Force Ghost Bullshit the better. The whispers in Rey's head were fine, but I wanted the visuals! ...And also for Bruce Faulconer music to kick in.
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teagone posted:The Han scene is necessary because narratively it's the final push Ben needed to embrace to the light again, much how it was that same mirrored choice that nearly sealed him off to the dark side. It works fine, imo. Yeah. Would have been incredible powerful. He even looks like he did still. I guess it makes sense why they didn’t as Anakin had not been in the previous two movies. Anyway the movie imho worked very well establishing the Skywalker clan against Palpatine. It was pretty good
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surf rock posted:I agree with the idea that they shouldn't split up trilogies between multiple directors and writers again; this trilogy would've been better if it had been 100% Abrams or 100% Johnson. I thought the Rey’s vision fading out to deep space was pretty effective. Though seeing some those Jedi may also have worked
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Thinking about it yes for Star Wars nerds anakins ghost on the Death Star wreckage would have been the best. Also Ben solo should have been a Tatooine ghost in the end
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:People keep saying this like Solo and Rogue One didn't also exist. These three films don't exist in a vacuum and the combination of Star Wars being overexposed to gently caress and back and everybody becoming so loving sick of the toxic discourse surrounding the property perpetrated by its worst fans very likely had a huge effect on these numbers going down as time goes by. There also is the decision to have the movies 2 years apart instead of 3...for some reason? Besides more money now. Maybe.
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it's now canon that kylo ren came so hard he became a cum ghost
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I thought it would have been interesting if Ghost Vader had appeared to Ren at the end, showing him what he long idolized, but then the image swirled away like mist in the winds, and Ghost Anakin had stepped from it.
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I'm mostly annoyed that I've been waiting for a Star Wars space battle to at least rival Yavin or Endor, and it just felt like a busy mess with too much poo poo on the screen and no real stakes or consequences. And no interesting ship designs. The TIE Dagger is ok, I guess, but it really feels like there's some counter-marketing lunatic at Disney who's doing the best to make sure the franchise can't make any cool spaceship toys to sell.
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Panzeh posted:I like the part where Rey needs a pep talk from ghost zizek luke AFTER she manages to turn ben solo but i guess they had to get her in luke's x-wing so they can reference the thing don't you shee? you musht view the forche through the lensh of dialectical materialishm for your path *snffff* to become clear.
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Davros1 posted:I thought it would have been interesting if Ghost Vader had appeared to Ren at the end, showing him what he long idolized, but then the image swirled away like mist in the winds, and Ghost Anakin had stepped from it. Yeah I don't know why this kind of imagery wasn't included. I hope it was at least brought up during production, because lmao, poo poo just makes sense.
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