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Alakantar posted:New one up! And so Snout's quest to find out what was up with Dominic Deegan has ended. Next week, he goes on a fetch quest to make that cave into an actual home.
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Are we sure this isn't some Dadaist experiment? Either way lmao that after all that the princess is in another castle so he just gives up.
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Dec 20, 2019 11:01
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I'm thinking he's about to set out on a journey to Barthis. Luckily for him it's just offscreen.
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Dec 20, 2019 12:22
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nah, he's gonna go to eldariat to die
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Dec 20, 2019 14:03
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Also, no dialogue. Just a speech bubble coming out of the book that Snout is reading which explicitly says what he’d be saying, and then the weird tentacle beast has what it wants to say already written down on a form letter. Really using the constraints to produce interesting storytelling. ...if the rest of the comic were better, I’d like the last two panels. It’s interesting to see a character respond to the idea that they have to suddenly travel far from home by going to their lovely house and curling up, because they’re afraid of leaving. Except that the whole house-explosion thing earlier totally ruins it. If this were competently told, all the library stuff would have happened before the house got blown up by a laser, so Snout had to go sleep in a cave and realize that following up on the clues was worth doing. Also have the ship show up to abduct after he finishes the page collection, also have the page be less bathetic, and maybe have a magical diagram? Something funny I’ve noticed is that this is basically an incredibly bad version of the 19th century literacy narrative, where bookishness and engagement with the written word are core to subject formation (something that carries on in 20th c lit as well) except that the author clearly doesn’t have any theory about why books are good, he just likes them. Kinda. So you get this, where the written word has become a pointless cipher for dialogue rather than an actual thing in itself worth engaging with.
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Dec 20, 2019 14:55
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I bet we get a post Monday(Jan 6th) explaining the call to action and the hero refusing and then accepting. The guy did make a post about downtime, I can see him trying to explain the hero's journey.
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Dec 20, 2019 15:11
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Once again, why is his mission to find out about Deegan? Why isn't it to find out what happened to the Ink Witch and whose ship that is? Why does he care more about Dominic than his house? Are we now to believe that he wants this book from Dominic to explain his dreams? If so, that's a really recent development, given that he was focusing on the pages and Deegan well before these dreams became prominent. And the dreams are so truncated narratively that it's hard to conceive of their importance. And, again, it really seems like he has bigger fish to fry and more important (and more INTERESTING) mysteries. But no. Snout is a Mookie, and Mookie loves Dominic, so therefore he cares about Dominic above all else because [reason]. Logic be damned.
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Dec 20, 2019 15:34
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Seeing you mention it I am struck at how he has just completely ignored the witch getting kidnapped by robotnik who destroyed his house in the process. "Oh bother. Well I'm sure she's fine. Time to go look for some paper."
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Dec 20, 2019 16:51
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Dec 20, 2019 16:58
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Tesseraction posted:Seeing you mention it I am struck at how he has just completely ignored the witch getting kidnapped by robotnik who destroyed his house in the process. Yeah. And again, we're just totally assuming that she was kidnapped by the ship, because that's the way it seemed to us - but remember, she said "Find the ship" not "help me hide from the ship", which makes me think maybe what was supposed to be conveyed is that the ship is on her side. But if that's the case, why did it destroy Snout's house, and why has the Ink Witch not communicated with Snout aside from the magic paper? So it doesn't really make sense that way either. Regardless of which scenario it is, Snout has really dumb priorities and we're given very little reason why he should care about the identity/history of Dominic over trying to find the Ink Witch again or trying to rebuild his house and life. (Although honestly losing his house barely seemed to affect him anyway, so...  )Once Snout found out the paper was the Ink Witch, why didn't he ask her, who are you? What is the ship? Why did it destroy my house? Are you in danger? Why do these pages matter at all? All we get this this page where he's like "Found the Ink Witch, still gonna look for the pages because [reason]": https://www.dominic-deegan.com/comic/october-21-2019/ In conclusion, Mookie bad writer. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Dec 20, 2019 |
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Dec 20, 2019 17:42
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Joe Slowboat posted:Also, no dialogue. It’d be like, super easy for him to better skirt the no dialogue rule. Just show us the proper angle of Snout pointing to the title in the book. Instead of a card that bluntly explains exactly what’s happening just have the squid point to a city on a map. You wouldn’t even have to show the title of the book since we still remember the page from two days ago and know Snout’s interested in this new book. There’s such a weird lack of confidence in his readers’ abilities to extrapolate what’s happening based on context clues.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:18
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TheHan posted:There’s such a weird lack of confidence in his readers’ abilities to extrapolate what’s happening based on context clues. Mixed with a weird confidence that readers will understand things that make no sense, re: Snout's motivations and pretty much anything about the Ink Witch and the ship.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:26
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Once Snout found out the paper was the Ink Witch, why didn't he ask her, who are you? What is the ship? Why did it destroy my house? Are you in danger? Why do these pages matter at all? All we get this this page where he's like "Found the Ink Witch, still gonna look for the pages because [reason]": https://www.dominic-deegan.com/comic/october-21-2019/ And he did ask the ink what it was, and the ink went "haha well, don't worry about it, i'll tell you later" and that was that.
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Dec 20, 2019 23:49
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rannum posted:I don't think we've seen anything that says its the ink witch at all. All we know is it claimed to be a specific spell, but has its Own Things going on and could be removed from the paper. It literally says it's the Ink Witch on the page I linked. Or at least Snout is pretty sure that's who it is and we're not given any indication it isn't, yet. Obviously he's a huge dumbass for taking her, or whoever it is, at their word instead of saying, no, gently caress you, tell me now. But Snout being a huge dumbass is known. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Dec 21, 2019 00:01
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Rotten Red Rod posted:It literally says it's the Ink Witch on the page I linked. Or at least Snout is pretty sure that's who it is and weren't not given any indication it isn't, yet. oh you're right, should have double checked that
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Dec 21, 2019 00:02
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What is this intellectual cowardice that prevents the library from being located in, DOWNTOWN ERROSUS?
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Dec 21, 2019 05:58
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Dec 21, 2019 06:08
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To be fair, I also totally missed that it had already been explicitly said that was the Ink Witch (or at least Snout thinks it is)... which leads right back into how ridiculous it is that revelation was ignored beyond that single panel of text. There isn't any follow up on it, no "where are you, are you safe" or "who was piloting that ship" or even just " The past few pages have already been torn apart, but to reiterate: How the hell did Snout miss this poem by Dominic when he was first researching him trying to figure out who he was? In a semi-realistic story, yes, it's very possible that someone manually searching one book after another would miss something on first pass. The problem is, his other library trips have established that he can, on the first try, easily find books with all the relevant information he needs. Even stuff he isn't actively searching for, like the true nature of pagefinders. It just further highlights how things only happen when they're convenient to the plot. Besides, Snout's seen that poem index before. The recent callback implies as much, but... it still feels like a cop-out, because the audience isn't made aware of the connection. The titles are kept deliberately off-screen; it doesn't count as foreshadowing if the viewer doesn't even get to see the shadow. Plus, again, it establishes that Snout knew that Dominic himself wrote something. So... why didn't he follow up on that during his first research? The only explanation I can think of is that Snout wasn't researching, and he just coincidentally saw his name while he was reading for fun. By... surrounding himself in three open books at once, I guess.
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Dec 21, 2019 11:27
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High-brow Shitposting. Approved!
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Dec 21, 2019 22:32
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Marginally less content than usual in the coming weeks. 
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Dec 23, 2019 02:11
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Mookie, that is a threat and I don't appreciate it.
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Dec 23, 2019 03:57
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What if he does the right thing and just ends it there, and the entire comic is about a deaf man with a weird inconsistent nudity taboo who checks out a book and then moves across the street?
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Dec 23, 2019 04:42
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is that loving comic sans
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Dec 23, 2019 04:52
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What does Undertale have to do with this travesty? Yes, yes it is.
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Dec 23, 2019 04:57
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Oh Mookie you motherfucker. Right that's it, touch the poop everyone and send him tweets/emails on Wednesday asking "where's today's comic??????" Do not actually do this.
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Dec 23, 2019 17:31
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The worst thing about this is that it implies that these awful things that Mookie makes are too much strain for him to build up a backlog to queue up while he's gone. He draws this poo poo the day of and it's all of his work for the day. He still doesn't even have clean gutters!
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Dec 23, 2019 18:28
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Wasn’t that kind of always the thing with DD? Like, he never planned ahead outside of a broad strokes idea of what the current arc’s story would be.
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Dec 23, 2019 19:36
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While true, he did originally do a week in advance if he was going on holiday, meaning we could binge them all at once if you knew the GIF's (yes he uploaded deegan in .gif format until this LEGACY arc) URLs, which were just the date of publication so it was easy to figure out. Apparently he can't be arsed preparing 5 comics in advance these days. Which is pretty on-brand.
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Dec 23, 2019 20:25
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Tesseraction posted:While true, he did originally do a week in advance if he was going on holiday, meaning we could binge them all at once if you knew the GIF's (yes he uploaded deegan in .gif format until this LEGACY arc) Better than JPEG since GIF gives lossless compression, and it's not like he needs truecolor for his black-and-white doodles.
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Dec 24, 2019 12:09
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While true, PNG gave better compression even taking his indexed colours into account. It was always a pain in the arse making edits because you had to import -> enable more than 16 colours before you could do anything.
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Dec 24, 2019 12:11
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Tesseraction posted:While true, he did originally do a week in advance if he was going on holiday, meaning we could binge them all at once if you knew the GIF's (yes he uploaded deegan in .gif format until this LEGACY arc) URLs, which were just the date of publication so it was easy to figure out. I feel like it’s a horrible combination of not knowing where he’s going with it, “not having dialogue” so not only can he not exposition his way out of it but he has to figure out how to convey what he does want to say without text.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:46
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TheHan posted:I feel like it’s a horrible combination of not knowing where he’s going with it, “not having dialogue” so not only can he not exposition his way out of it but he has to figure out how to convey what he does want to say without text. “Without text”
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Dec 24, 2019 16:17
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Mors Rattus posted:“Without text” I can’t decide if Mookie keeps writing himself into corners and that’s why he keeps adding text, or if he thinks his audience is so stupid that they wouldn’t be able to keep track without dialogue. The whole pages dedicated to recalling what we just saw supports the latter.
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Dec 24, 2019 18:16
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TheHan posted:The whole pages dedicated to recalling what we just saw supports the latter.
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Dec 24, 2019 18:22
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PMush Perfect posted:Third option, he needs to keep reminding himself. it's this
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Dec 24, 2019 20:47
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I mean, it was a constant obvious point in DD that Mookie was an incredibly lazy writer; he never bothered with back story or world building unless necessary for an immediate plot, he often turned to Dominic performing deus ex machinas, he often ended a strip with what he called a “pun” but was just a forced alliteration. He’s just being lazy and doing something that he’s used to doing - bundles of words and explanations - and re-formatting it so it’s technically not dialogue because he wants the credit for doing something hard without doing something hard.
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Dec 25, 2019 05:15
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He's writing his webcomic like it's a saturday morning cartoon, but with sex and gore. It's trying to appeal to people that liked that aesthetic, and want it replicated in more mature stories, without realising that maturity is reflected not only in content but also in form.
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Dec 25, 2019 13:26
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PMush Perfect posted:Third option, he needs to keep reminding himself. Mookie’s primary audience is and always has been himself. I’d call Dominic Deegan artistic masturbation but I obviously feel dirty using the word ‘artistic’ in association with it. But really, that’s what it always has been. In a way it is almost something I can sympathize with, except he also likes to pretend he has and cares about an external audience so eh, gently caress it. But if Mookie owned up to it and just admitted he does these comics solely for himself and only posts them in the off chance others may find some enjoyment from them, I think I would respect him more.
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We’re back boys, time to undermine the previous page with too many words. 
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