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davidspackage posted:Have the previous seasons gotten any kind of bluray release? I'm a sucker for actor commentary tracks. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=expanse+bluray E: Looking at them, it seems Season 1 and 3 don't have commentary. Though, maybe its just not printed on the bluray label. the_enduser fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Dec 24, 2019 |
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Yeah, I think they "ascended" or whatever, and are actually still around. So what, they ascend and now they won’t answer a call from their
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Narsham posted:So what, they ascend and now they won’t answer a call from their No, they just don't give a poo poo anymore; nothing happening in the physical plane matters to them anymore. Protomolecule was just their physical instrument after they uploaded themselves to the laser cloud
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Just thought of this, if they have magic finger growing potions wouldn't humans(known for being weird) do some crazy poo poo with it? Couldn't you make a couple extra arms? Expand your muscles so you are a 400 pound superman? Be like that dude in The Culture books that has like 50 dicks installed for a party?
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It probably just does whatever your DNA says should be at that spot.
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youd have to do a ton of work to grow new nerves, bones, musculature and everything. they cant jist grow you a new arm theyve got to hook it into your body so you can use it.
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Cojawfee posted:It probably just does whatever your DNA says should be at that spot. Yeah it's described as regeneration, like animals that can regrow limbs. It's not just arbitrary.
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Fragmented posted:Be like that dude in The Culture books that has like 50 dicks installed for a party? Hm this does not make me want to read any more of these books
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Dec 24, 2019 19:55
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If weird sex stuff turns you off that much I just don't know how you're into sci fi as a genre
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Tighclops posted:If weird sex stuff turns you off that much I just don't know how you're into sci fi as a genre Haha it isn't really I read the first Culture book and was really just lukewarm on it, I'm not surprised there's even more weird sex poo poo in it 
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Fragmented posted:Just thought of this, if they have magic finger growing potions wouldn't humans(known for being weird) do some crazy poo poo with it? Couldn't you make a couple extra arms? Expand your muscles so you are a 400 pound superman? Be like that dude in The Culture books that has like 50 dicks installed for a party? Genetic engineering and AI development probably should be farther along but I'm okay with not turning the world into a completely alien place that would blow our tiny millennial minds, it would mess with the "same poo poo, different century" themes of the show too much.
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Johnny Truant posted:Haha it isn't really That's commonly thought of as one of the bottom tier books FYI, and they're all essentially stand alone.
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Nail Rat posted:That's commonly thought of as one of the bottom tier books FYI, and they're all essentially stand alone. Yup, I've heard this as well. Here's to hoping 50-dicked-party-man isn't in Player of Games, that's the next Culture book I'll read But that isn't gonna be anytime soon, too many other books, like the latest Expanse novella!
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In the culture a lot of people spend their young lives loving around and getting up to new and inventive sexual depravity until they start to grow and realize they can have virtual sex as perfect as they can imagine it and begin to treasure relationships with real people. Sma goes on about it a bit in Use of Weapons, which is probably my favorite book. And the best book. And yes I know I quoted Excession earlier.
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Depressing season. The perpetual cycle of imperialism and exploitation and the suffering and destruction that results from it have been unleashed on the stars like a locusts swarm. And it will eat and perpetuate for thousands of years until there is nothing left to consume and destroy, except itself. It would cost a miniscule fraction of the resources of colonization to actually fix Earth and Mars through population control. Make them stable and healthy societies. Then go out and explore and study these worlds as explorers. But as in the real world, that path is closed to us because people can never grow beyond being absusers and exploiters and feeding that cycle of misery. Merry Christmas! Also, the season reminded me a lot of the BSG and the New Caprica plot. BSG also had a strong theme of imperialism and abuse perpetuating themselves.
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One other thing I wanted to call out from the season that was good, was I loved Avasarala's husband's stuff when they went to Mars about the Martians have generational thinking. Both because it's a good observation and also the deep irony that it's only being recognized at the moment that whole way of life is falling apart without either of them knowing it.
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GABA ghoul posted:BSG also had a strong theme of imperialism and abuse perpetuating themselves. BSG? Strong theme of imperialism? Not so sure about that one.
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Fragmented posted:Just thought of this, if they have magic finger growing potions wouldn't humans(known for being weird) do some crazy poo poo with it? Couldn't you make a couple extra arms? Expand your muscles so you are a 400 pound superman? Be like that dude in The Culture books that has like 50 dicks installed for a party? On top of what others have said, keep In mind how expensive it is, buddy who got his arm ripped off in s1 e1 on the cant only just had the possibility of a non artificial prosthetic because hed been with the company for many YEARS
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Johnny Truant posted:Yup, I've heard this as well. Here's to hoping 50-dicked-party-man isn't in Player of Games, that's the next Culture book I'll read No I'm pretty sure it's in his last book The Hydrogen Sonota and it's not like a big plot point. And honestly if you get through all the books and a dude with a bunch of dicks is the thing that creeps you out I don't know what to tell you.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:One other thing I wanted to call out from the season that was good, was I loved Avasarala's husband's stuff when they went to Mars about the Martians have generational thinking. Both because it's a good observation and also the deep irony that it's only being recognized at the moment that whole way of life is falling apart without either of them knowing it. It reminded me of all the bullshit fluff pieces and attitudes certain folks in the west have regarding modern China, and how hollow it rings when you scratch the surface of their state propaganda. Mars is just as short sighted, corrupt, and fragile as any other state or group in the system. It just hammers its propaganda harder to its own people and on the international stage.
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"Amos keep a lid on the situation" "K, want me to shoot Morty?"  best line of the season
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Baronjutter posted:It reminded me of all the bullshit fluff pieces and attitudes certain folks in the west have regarding modern China, and how hollow it rings when you scratch the surface of their state propaganda. Mars is just as short sighted, corrupt, and fragile as any other state or group in the system. It just hammers its propaganda harder to its own people and on the international stage. I think you'll like* Amazon's One Child Nation. *As much as anyone can "like" a grim documentary about totalitarian enforcement of state-mandated population control, but the propaganda/image vs. reality elements are very relevant here.
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This weird sex prudishness that some ppl itt have going on is exactly what members of the culture would point and laugh at. Hehe I said member. Happy Christmas you fuckers.
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69 dicks for loving, 420 mouths for smoking, and a cybernetic superbrain is what i want santa
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GABA ghoul posted:Depressing season. The perpetual cycle of imperialism and exploitation and the suffering and destruction that results from it have been unleashed on the stars like a locusts swarm. And it will eat and perpetuate for thousands of years until there is nothing left to consume and destroy, except itself. They thing for me is that "population control" usually devolves down to "We have way too many brown and yellow people. We need to cut down on them now. We could use some more hot blonde white people, though."
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Everyone posted:They thing for me is that "population control" usually devolves down to "We have way too many brown and yellow people. We need to cut down on them now. We could use some more hot blonde white people, though." Or when they talk about Population Control as a bad thing its "the browns want to kill all the white people".
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twistedmentat posted:Or when they talk about Population Control as a bad thing its "the browns want to kill all the white people". Nothing can make me like Cleveland no matter how hard you try
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Phi230 posted:Nothing can make me like Cleveland no matter how hard you try But... but... Cleveland Rocks!
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Baronjutter posted:It reminded me of all the bullshit fluff pieces and attitudes certain folks in the west have regarding modern China, and how hollow it rings when you scratch the surface of their state propaganda. Mars is just as short sighted, corrupt, and fragile as any other state or group in the system. It just hammers its propaganda harder to its own people and on the international stage. Agreed, expect modern China is great. So more like how western imperialist dogs imagine modern China, so I get roughly where you're going.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Agreed, expect modern China is great. So more like how western imperialist dogs imagine modern China, so I get roughly where you're going. lol
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Agreed, expect modern China is great. So more like how western imperialist dogs imagine modern China, so I get roughly where you're going. r guyovich parachute spotted
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gfarrell80 posted:BSG? Strong theme of imperialism? Not so sure about that one. The Colonials enslave Cylons and extract labor from them to enrich themselves. The liberated skinjob Cylons then enslave the old generation Cylons to extract labor from them. All of this has been going on for thousands of years in a perpetual cycle of overthrowing the oppressors and then becoming the new oppressors. Also, there was this whole plot about the rich colonies like Caprica extracting wealth from the poorer colonies. Everyone posted:They thing for me is that "population control" usually devolves down to "We have way too many brown and yellow people. We need to cut down on them now. We could use some more hot blonde white people, though." Yeah, but who cares about what white supremacists think? They have opinions on everything from tax policy to how to hang toilet paper. When humanity's equilibrium is a dystopia where most people are unemployed and subsist on gray tasteless goo and wear paper clothes and can only sustain themselves through brutal extraction of resources from the periphery, inaction has completely failed as a policy. Slap a basic income of 40% of the average wage on voluntary sterilization after your first child, 20% after your second child and a McDonalds coupon after your third. It's definitely gonna affect the worldwide population distribution, but there is no way around that. Any way to make the externalities of living beyond the ecological carrying capacity real, is gonna lead to injustice in some form. We can try to minimize that as much as possible, but there is no way to avoid it completely. It's very similar to our own modern problem of climate change. There is no solution to it that is not going to be regressive and unjust in some form, but it still needs to happen.
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See, everyone loves China!
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GABA ghoul posted:The Colonials enslave Cylons and extract labor from them to enrich themselves. The liberated skinjob Cylons then enslave the old generation Cylons to extract labor from them. All of this has been going on for thousands of years in a perpetual cycle of overthrowing the oppressors and then becoming the new oppressors. The 1st Cylon war (the robo revolution) is background for the series, not really present. The reason why the cylons revolted in the 1st cylon war is of miniscule concern in the series, I am not sure it is really even covered. The statement "The Colonials enslave Cylons and extract labor from them to enrich themselves" is somewhat questionable. To enslave something it has to be sentient. I'm not sure the colonials in the 1st cylon war were knowingly enslaving sentient robots; my understanding was that it was kinda a skynet type moment causing the 1st cylon war. More the classic 'be wary of technology because it will kill you' myth (Daedalus/Icarus) than a warning against colonialism. Also the statement "liberated skinjob cylons then enslave the old generation Cylons to extract labor from them" is a little dubious. The exact relationship between the skin jobs and the other cylons is a little mysterious. To me it always seemed more symbiotic and cooperative rather than exploitative. There doesn't seem to be any kind of priority given to skin job projects at the expense of centurions and raiders. To me BSG was less about imperialism and more of a warning about how technology is as likely to be our killer as our savior. Also BSG had some of the typical petty tribalistic politics thrown in there. Was that thing about Caprica in the 'Caprica' show? I don't remember that in the mainline BSG story. It has been several years though.
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gfarrell80 posted:To me BSG was less about imperialism and more of a warning about how technology is as likely to be our killer as our savior. Also BSG had some of the typical petty tribalistic politics thrown in there. Made explicit to beat the audience over the head with in the terrible finale, even.
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GABA ghoul posted:The Colonials enslave Cylons and extract labor from them to enrich themselves. The liberated skinjob Cylons then enslave the old generation Cylons to extract labor from them. All of this has been going on for thousands of years in a perpetual cycle of overthrowing the oppressors and then becoming the new oppressors. Actually, you should care what white supremacists think because in our real world, white people still rule the world. Well, rich people do, and the largest percentage of rich people are white. It's not about rear end in a top hat MAGA nazi-types. White people (and I am one) want to stay "supreme" because that's the status quo. Rich people tend to be white. Rich people support the status quo so they can stay rich. Who says that at least some of that hasn't already been done, at least on Earth? With 30 billion people, many of whom lack employment and are on Basic, presumably population controls like you have outlined have already been implemented. As medical knowledge increases, lifespans lengthenSo figure at this point either they take advantage of the 1300 new frontiers that just opened up or they start building extermination camps. Maybe they can raise money via gladiatorial "Hunger Games." The survivors get to eat the losers. Everyone fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Dec 26, 2019 |
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Do Martians wear all black clothes in the books? I thought it was a good touch really helped give Mars that authoritarian look. A very minor nitpick but (ep 8) Elvi needing Holden to read test results to her after she went blind was a little silly. All those advanced computers but we've lost text-to-speech technology
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Pizza Segregationist posted:Do Martians wear all black clothes in the books? A book only has words, idiot
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Pizza Segregationist posted:Do Martians wear all black clothes in the books? I thought it was a good touch really helped give Mars that authoritarian look. Maybe they didn't pack speakers
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