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Just about anything looks better than what the Soviets did. It's like comparing your Food Dudes job to being a junkie. On a side note when I first played Deus Ex as a teenager I thought the Helios ending would be the worst possible outcome, and it's not looking so bad now. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Dec 25, 2019 |
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It really doesn't help that racial prejudice has been worked in to capitalism as a sweet feature for political ends. Looking forward to how we still gently caress this up despite having a rough map of how to avoid total failure.
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Crakkerjakk posted:We should just nationalize Walmart and Amazon (and all their "contractors"), give all their employees decent paying federal jobs with benefits, and hand it all over to the post office to run as a combined logistics/shipping & distribution branch. And institute postal banking while we're at it. Look up the waltons and their drunk driving, they have killed people and gotten away with it. The wall is too good for them
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It's a christmas miracle https://twitter.com/RaccoonsAre/sta...ingawful.com%2F
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you only need to centrally plan the very basics of housing, electricity, medical etc and have UBI to allow people to buy personal items
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:Look up the waltons and their drunk driving, they have killed people and gotten away with it. The wall is too good for them Every one of the Walton's need to swing from a loving rope.
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shame on an IGA posted:It's a christmas miracle Racist did not receive head injury from asphalt, 6/10
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maffew buildings posted:It really doesn't help that racial prejudice has been worked in to capitalism as a sweet feature for political ends. Looking forward to how we still gently caress this up despite having a rough map of how to avoid total failure. Cons love capitalism when it's doing it's job, ie crushing the people they don't like. The very second they prosper even the tiniest bit more than them they turn on it like jackals
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:you only need to centrally plan the very basics of housing, electricity, medical etc and have UBI to allow people to buy personal items
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Cugel the Clever posted:Zero reason not to go further and provide cheap, functional essential consumer goods. I get zero benefit out of there being four dozen functionally-equivalent toothpastes hiding behind branding that pretends they're different so that toothpaste G can be sold at a higher price than toothpaste H. BUT BUT FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!
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Cugel the Clever posted:Zero reason not to go further and provide cheap, functional essential consumer goods. I get zero benefit out of there being four dozen functionally-equivalent toothpastes hiding behind branding that pretends they're different so that toothpaste G can be sold at a higher price than toothpaste H. So you're saying the poor should be subjected to the military's system for providing equipment? You want to subject poor people to CIF?
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SimonCat posted:So you're saying the poor should be subjected to the military's system for providing equipment? You want to subject poor people to CIF? Yeah that's precisely what was written
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SimonCat posted:So you're saying the poor should be subjected to the military's system for providing equipment? You want to subject poor people to CIF?
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Cugel the Clever posted:Zero reason not to go further and provide cheap, functional essential consumer goods. I get zero benefit out of there being four dozen functionally-equivalent toothpastes hiding behind branding that pretends they're different so that toothpaste G can be sold at a higher price than toothpaste H. 1987 Soviet Toothpaste Shortage: https://www.joc.com/maritime-news/toothpaste-shortage-erases-soviet-smiles_19870929.html https://apnews.com/e1ad375eee08509105bff2cf29fa0448 The advantage is that, if Colgate-Palmolive (Colgate) fails to provide enough toothpaste, GlaxoSmithKline (Aquafresh) will happily snap up their market share and the shelves stay (over) stocked with minty fresh goo. The disadvantage is additional cost, applied to the consumer, to drive both profit and resource expenditure trying to gain market advantage through nonproductive research and development, marketing, and price inflation, and that GSP and CP have what most would describe as excessive proportion of political influence. piL fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Dec 25, 2019 |
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consumer goods is the only place where capitalism works as intended
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Cugel the Clever posted:Are people fighting for universal healthcare looking to bring the VA to the masses? I'd absolutely go for VA for everyone (nationalize all health care, health care workers now work for a salary for the govt) over Medicare for all (nationalize health insurance). But that's not on offer, sadly. Only the compromise position.
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I would love if everyone I knew had my coverage through the VA. Does the VA have problems? Absolutely. However, I get to go to the doctor whenever I want and I'll be seen within 30 minutes to an hour if I'm walking in and generally within 15 minutes of an appointment. I get all of my labs done in the same place as my doctor so I don't have to drive to some testing facility and wait hours in line. I pick up my medicine right after my appointment as well and/or it is mailed to my house within three days free of charge. Refills can be set up to auto-ship. There are so many less headaches dealing with the VA vs dealing with private care, at least in my local area. And the best part about it all - there is absolutely zero out of pocket cost for me anywhere. I don't have a copay. I don't have a deductible to meet. I don't have to worry in an emergency if I'm going to have a medical bill to deal with.
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Not-VA care: "Ta-dah, here's your eighty thousand dollar out of network bill! Have fun, fucker!" Nah, pass.
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My experiences with the VA have not been optimal. My experiences with Tricare Reserve Select have been pretty good. Therefore, my anecdotal experience tells me Medicare for All is the better solution.
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To expand upon my answer, the local VA clinic is located in a local hospital. I went there to get an x-ray and was told I would have to drive to the VA hospital 65 miles away as the local clinic did not contract with the hospital it was housed in for x-rays. Getting a filling at the VA was an exercise in pain and frustration, the dentist literally couldn't find the right size drill bit and rummaged around his tool box like I do at home looking for a socket. The VA also doped my dad up so much that he turned into a non-functioning zombie when he went in for help with depression and PTSD. It took a long time to unfuck that situation and get his meds straightened out.
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SimonCat posted:My experiences with the VA have not been optimal. My experiences with Tricare Reserve Select have been pretty good. When you go to the doctor and he orders labwork, are you able to get it done right then and there in house or do you have to go elsewhere? I honestly don't know about TRS to quibble about whether there is any copay or deductible requirement. If there isn't, my issue is entirely just lack of all inclusive solutions for healthcare because it's more profitable to separate out facilities as much as possible. The VA has everything in house ready to go except for certain specialty things, and in some areas they have that, too. If TRS has any out of pocket costs at all, gently caress that.
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SimonCat posted:To expand upon my answer, the local VA clinic is located in a local hospital. I went there to get an x-ray and was told I would have to drive to the VA hospital 65 miles away as the local clinic did not contract with the hospital it was housed in for x-rays. Getting a filling at the VA was an exercise in pain and frustration, the dentist literally couldn't find the right size drill bit and rummaged around his tool box like I do at home looking for a socket. I've never used VA dental - so I can't compare. And yeah, the medication poo poo with your dad is complete bullshit and that's one of the problems I have with the VA. However, malpractice is not unique to the VA. Your x-ray issue, though, is because of the private-healthcare system. If every hospital was a VA hospital, that would not be an issue.
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SimonCat posted:To expand upon my answer, the local VA clinic is located in a local hospital. I went there to get an x-ray and was told I would have to drive to the VA hospital 65 miles away as the local clinic did not contract with the hospital it was housed in for x-rays. This wouldn’t be a problem under a VA-for-all system. As for the other two, sucky doctors are a thing. Sorry.
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The answer to the toothpaste argument is private enterprise with price ceilings to protect consumers and to a certain extent the corporations themselves from their own worst tendencies.
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:consumer goods is the only place where capitalism works as intended Crakkerjakk posted:I'd absolutely go for VA for everyone (nationalize all health care, health care workers now work for a salary for the govt) over Medicare for all (nationalize health insurance). The real problems with the program and others like it do need to be addressed, though. Upthread is talk about overcoming the technical shortcomings of Soviet communism's planning apparatus with modern computing power, but that's not the whole story and us on the left in the West need to be more explicitly conscious of the human factor. The power dynamics of the Soviet state produced a septic bog of petty corruption and authority-worshipping, status-quo-loving conservatism. As the writer of Chernobyl rightly called out, this isn't at all unique to Soviet communism, but we do need to be ardently fighting for the institutions, policies, and mindsets that foster good governance and management practices as we push for broader state participation in the economy, whether it's the provision of housing, the production of consumer goods, or ensuring the health and wellbeing of all.
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The VA would be insanely better if it wasn’t for profit-seeking private clinics locking access to health behind a tollbooth. Speaking as someone from a family of surgeons and nurses, private healthcare would also be insanely better if it wasn’t for their profit-seeking administration trying to squeeze out better margins by limiting staffing and adding unnecessary administrative overhead.
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Internet Wizard posted:The VA would be insanely better if it wasn’t for profit-seeking private clinics locking access to health behind a tollbooth. Basically every necessity would work better without what capitalism drives. Innovation doesn't work as well tho, which is why you should make a competitive space where people can try to prove they are better than everyone else.
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RFC2324 posted:Basically every necessity would work better without what capitalism drives. University programs. Make universities compete for some poo poo like we make football teams do now. Prizes being poo poo like a month off paid to go gently caress off on vacation anywhere the airlines reach. Or bonus money. And a big banner to hang from the schools rafters. Nah, let's all just watch fortnite instead.
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My alma mater has an esports team, maybe more than one, now. They give the kids on it $1K in tuition assistance per semester. I know this because they just recruited some kid who's on their CS:GO team into our unit. We'll see how that works out.
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CS:GO to the polls Also yes people play CS:GO and yes they are as abysmally Irritating as you imagine them to be
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:also re: waltons It's baffling how subservient the american people are and you know for a fact this idiot rocks a gadsden
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dont worry im sure Liz has a plan to help increase your access to healthcare https://twitter.com/CTWritePretty/status/1209908016855863296?s=20
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FrozenVent posted:As for the other two, sucky doctors are a thing. Sorry. Although "this particular doctor prescribes this medication 2x more than all the other doctors in the local area" is a thing you could figure out, so at least some suckiness could be detected and dealt with.
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FrozenVent posted:This wouldn’t be a problem under a VA-for-all system. Recruiting everyone into the military is a bold strategy for socialist revolution
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Buttcoin purse posted:Although "this particular doctor prescribes this medication 2x more than all the other doctors in the local area" is a thing you could figure out, so at least some suckiness could be detected and dealt with. but it is a problem that is equally prevalent in both VA and public medical care. its actually worse in public, because the lack of records they don't control makes it easier for them to get away with it
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