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all i ask for in an architecture is cool technical talks on youtube by some guy who looks like gandalf
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rjmccall posted:i'm just intrigued by the idea that there might still be mill fans after all these years of nothing. like they could absolutely have made some prototype chips by this point if their design was worth anything well you did get at least one unambiguous wiki-quotin mill fan in the hn thread about your paper, so they’re still out there quote:yes: http://millcomputing.com/wiki/Protection the last time I spent significant  making GBS threads on the hopes and dreams of mill fans it was to point out that even if they don’t have the budget to do a chip, they ought to grab a fpga eval board and go to town. costs under $10K for a board with a huge fpga and a bundled tools license, but they’ve never even done that. (the labor is more expensive, but I’m sure they could get volunteers who’d accept pay in the form of stock or w/e)so despite waffling about limited funding whenever anyone asks them where the hardware is, there’s no excuse, they’ve definitely had enough funding to work on proof of concept physical implementation. and they should have done so as part of their pursuit of more investment, because their story isn’t credible without a poc. instead they’re still farting around with a simulator, apparently trying to write their own os to boot on it.
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lol they're writing their own os instead of just porting linux or maybe some tiny embedded kernel? yeah that fits
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their approach to a Linux port is to port it to the L4 microkernel, i forget exactly why Linux cant run directly on Mill but it cant so this is their workaround
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rjmccall posted:lol they're writing their own os instead of just porting linux or maybe some tiny embedded kernel? yeah that fits maybe? i got that impression by skimming some posts on their forums, but I rechecked just now and found a post referencing ‘the os port’ and mention of a desire to get a microkernel running as a way to bootstrap one of the hybrid linux/uC operating systems. so, idk as it always is with the mill, half the posts are ivan godard (the gandalf-rear end mf’er in their youtubes who is the impetus behind the project) being vague and tantalizing, both about exactly what mill is and what they’re doing, so you can read almost anything you want into what he’s saying also don’t go to their forums, they’re the saddest forums
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i was interested in mill at first, but i hate videos for techical information, even if its gandalf. they should have way more actual documents (and, by now, actual designs. come on guys, it's been like decades)JawnV6 posted:wait who's still bitter about harvard architectures not me, all the most annoying processors i've worked with were harvard architecture
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hiram112 5 hours ago | parent | favorite | on: Stamping Out Online Sex Trafficking May Have Pushe... It isn't just the religious right that pushes for backwards prostitution laws. It is also... feminists. Aren't feminists always going on about "my body, my right" when it comes to abortion and other forms of contraceptives? Of course, but when it comes to prostitution, they seem to take a 'differing' view. Why? When prostitution is decriminalized, the price of sex goes down, as would be expected in any market where the product / service carries less legal risk and societal stigmas than before. Thus, men are far less likely to pay large premiums for sex with non-prostitutes including 'courting', dating, marriage, etc.
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superkuh 20 minutes ago [-] China following the socially regressive lead the USA has been setting in terms of free speech on university campuses.
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BobHoward posted:maybe? i got that impression by skimming some posts on their forums, but I rechecked just now and found a post referencing ‘the os port’ and mention of a desire to get a microkernel running as a way to bootstrap one of the hybrid linux/uC operating systems. so, idk being vague and tantalizing is career security for greybeards like this because they can never make it or understand what is going on in the broader industry enough to be a productive part so they invent their time cube world that they can be a master of. luckily for them, popular culture has done half their work for them so they can attract a follower base by just acting the part of wise old white guy see also: conservatives
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Xik posted:hiram112 5 hours ago | parent | favorite | on: Stamping Out Online Sex Trafficking May Have Pushe... hiram112 1 day ago | parent [-] | on: Stamping Out Online Sex Trafficking May Have Pushe... I think the most unmentioned facet regarding prostitution is that for many men, prostitution may be the only way for them to obtain sex, which I feel is just as much of a "right" as is the right for women to obtain an abortion. No I don't believe taxpayers should be required to pay for prostitutes, nor for abortions. But the market for both should be decriminalized. Not only is this something that is morally right, though I'm sure feminists especially will not agree, I believe this is in society's best interest, too. There are more and more studies showing most men did not actually propagate throughout history, and this is also true with many other mammals. The alpha obtains a harem, and the rest fight over what's left (or die trying). I have a feeling that the institution of monogamy came about in almost all cultures simply to avoid the problems associated with large numbers of males, programmed by evolution to do one thing, unable to obtain it. Inexpensive and shameless prostitution might be an alternative as it seems monogamy is declining, and some version of polygamy becoming more normal with few men sharing many women (if you believe the online dating app stats and lots of anecdotes online). reply
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I love how they all just assume what a feminist position on sex work is without even a ten second Google search on the topic to realize their assumption is completely backwards
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i mean there’s a pretty deep divide on that, but yeah, the idea that of course all feminists are opposed to sex work is pretty funny also obligatory “that’s not how alphas work”
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Dec 21, 2019 00:08
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I mean, they also think rape was a normal thing until we “civilized” ourselves soooo
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BobHoward posted:well you did get at least one unambiguous wiki-quotin mill fan in the hn thread about your paper, so they’re still out there lol yeah where the gently caress is the fpga demo board
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im going with they did an fpga implementation and it was so lovely they abandoned it and told themselves that it wasn't possible to efficiently implement mill on an fpga so they need to skip that step
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Dec 21, 2019 04:27
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can't publish an fpga implementation before you file all your patents; otherwise all those crooks will steal your brilliant ideas
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https://patrickcollison.com/fast oh one of those move quickly break things motivationals quote:The Pentagon. The construction of the world's largest office building was led by Brehon Somervell. The decision to proceed with the project was made on a Thursday evening. Initial drawings were completed that Sunday. Construction started two months later, on September 11 1941, and was finished on January 15 1943, 491 days later. When asked when something was needed, Somervell's go-to response was "the day before yesterday". Source: The Pentagon. ok thats actually neat, what other big proje quote:Amazon Prime. Amazon started to implement the first version of Amazon Prime in late 2004 and announced it on February 2 2005, six weeks later. Source: The making of Amazon Prime. amazing. just amazing that an online retailer with accounts and 2-day shipping could, in a mere six weeks, add a recurring subscription for 2-day shipping. SV truly is the engineering megaproject of our era commensurate to its level of capital
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re: academic publishing and unpaid article review hos234 14 hours ago | parent [-] | on: ACM signed letter opposing open access Amazon pulls in thousands of unpaid reviews for any product. Now what do you do? Give all of them the product free? Lets say 3 in 100 reviews are good. And you want those 3 to come back and review the next product. You are even willing to pay them something. Is there a guarantee that they have interest and will show up, and if they do, is there a guarantee that they produce a useful review of the same standard the second time around? Thats just one simplified reason about the dynamics of this process, that is going to block everyone from getting things for free. Its easy to react, to push to dismantle it and you just end up with YouTube style mega mass of comments under every vid where the best comments are guaranteed to get buried unless they pander to the will of the herd. reply
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Dec 21, 2019 23:09
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This is the shittiest thread I've seen in a while https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21855280
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Maximo Roboto posted:This is the shittiest thread I've seen in a while there’s a lot of bad comments but the top stuff seems alright. 5 storey apartment buildings and municipal consolidation would solve a solid 90% of the bays issues, housing-wise. ofc no one is really incentivized to do that because can you imagine how much money the poor landlords/homeowners would lose if there wasn’t artificially constrained supply?
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city consolidation makes sense in the abstract but i fault exactly no-one for not wanting anything to do with sf’s extremely hosed up local politics
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local politics is hosed up universally because, I assume, nobody wants to spent an entire career as "ward 7 councillor." so the only people there are either too incompetent to hack it in REAL politics, or running some sort of scam under the table and quite happy with being corrupt Edmonton is great, we elected a late gen-x mayor a few years ago and nothing changed, same old incompetence and grifting including them voting down free transit on Election Day and weaponizing transit police against climate protestors. we still have no working public transit. SRQ fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Dec 23, 2019 |
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sf is basically the center of the state democratic machine, so it’s actually really out-sized in its importance in state politics, and serving in city office is a pretty good stepping stone, not a dead end. it doesn’t help; you just get ambitious councillors who immediately start running for state senator and laying out their own ten-point plans for fixing everything just to get good press instead of trying to build any sort of real support from the other councillors
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This thread is like the HN equivalent of getting ratioed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21865065
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merry christmas everyone. one of the hackers is catching on to what we in yospos have known for years:quote:As someone with a lot of experience in self-driving cars, my opinion has changed over the course of the last decade from "we can create smart enough models of these separate problems to create a statistically safer product" to "first you need to invent general AI."
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Lambert posted:Or someone that went to school. Latin is a regular part of the curriculum in many places. The kids who took Latin in my school in the mid 00s haven't eaten pussy either
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:The kids who took Latin in my school in the mid 00s haven't eaten pussy either so did you do well in latin?
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I went to a prep school and even we thought the kids who picked latin for their language were awful nerds
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or budding sociopaths who were being groomed to take over their dads corporate law firm
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lol latin was by far the easiest language in my high school, teachers who didn't give a gently caress, not having to speak it outloud, and there was a yearly "convention" which was really just a toga party rave in a football field.
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i mean you can try to make it sound cool, but we all know the truth. the terrible, terrible truth
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Re: Mill Computing, is it really considered just some kind of grift, i mean, VC, for that CPU Santa dude?
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what else is it? a grad student could crank out a lovely fpga implementation of something on the order of months? going 15+ years and generating.... a shitload of youtubes and 14 whole patents is silly idk I should take a deeper dive, but i always get the impression they take every failure or misstep of traditional arches and smugly assert they handle that edge case differently. spectre? hah, we store return addresses... uh... somewhere else!!! take THAT intelailures!!
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eh, on the grand fraud-crank-optimist spectrum i’d probably put mill somewhere between the latter two. there’s a ton of ideas there, and some of them seem really dumb to me (vliw) and others could be the right trade-off for some client out there (the belt maybe?). as a sort of patent-oriented architecture research group they have some potential to get picked up for their ip, and they don’t need a working product for that, so it’s not total investor storytime
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hasnt vliw been tried and mostly phased out pretty much everywhere now? why does it still persist
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Switzerland posted:Re: Mill Computing, is it really considered just some kind of grift, i mean, VC, for that CPU Santa dude? i don’t think they’re making any money off it? it seems like more of a hobby project from some retired dudes than anything else
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Suspicious Dish posted:hasnt vliw been tried and mostly phased out pretty much everywhere now? why does it still persist VLIW still exists in some specialized hardware. I was just reading earlier today that Nikon used it in their EXCEED image processors until pretty recently. For general-purpose computing it seems pretty dubious, though.
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yeah i think vliw might make sense if you have a pretty small instruction set and a very particular execution model like a gpu where control flow is really uncommon. it’s really dumb for general-purpose computing and i really don’t understand the allure for architects
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you don’t have to figure out how to parallelize poo poo you just punt that to compiler developers there’s your allure
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Suspicious Dish posted:hasnt vliw been tried and mostly phased out pretty much everywhere now? why does it still persist movidius shave uses vliw https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/movidius/microarchitectures/shave_v2.0
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