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BiggerBoat posted:Can we talk about Adobe for a second? They made Flash, I don’t know what they could ever do to be forgiven for that.
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Midjack posted:They made Flash, I don’t know what they could ever do to be forgiven for that. No, they inherited it and Shockwave when they bought Macromedia.
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My heavily discounted copy of Photoshop CS from like 2003 finally stopped working this past year after win 10 updated. I've thought about experimenting to see if it'll run in some emulated virtual environment or another for the sake of getting one over on adobe, but so far 
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Sadly, adobe took the officially cracked disc images of creative suite 2 off their website a couple months back
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Consider buying 3 identical lovely computers for much less than the price of one good computer. In my case I bought 5 broken Lenovo X220 laptops from 2011 on ebay, then mixed and matched parts to make 3 working ones, for a few hundred bucks. Having multiple computers running, including some that are always offline, is the only way to avoid automatic update based fuckery such as involuntary restarts or losing your old configuration that worked. When you're bound to just one machine your whole life depends on (and that costed your whole computing budget), then you're boned if it ever gets lost, stolen, updated badly, too cluttered, malware, etc. whereas if you have multiple machines you're just a few minutes of playing around with a flash drive from being up and running again. Also, piracy when you have an offline machine or two to experiment with sounds pretty easy. If one of them gets malware who cares, that malware can't phone home or create much downtime.
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If any of you has an academic account, you can get it really cheap. I pay like 20 bucks per year for Adobe CC Fake edit. Yes, year.
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Non Serviam posted:If any of you has an academic account, you can get it really cheap. I had that suggested to me by someone else recently. I have an 8 year old son and a coworker told me I could get CC for an educational rate. Maybe. I'm gonna keep using CS5 on my oldish imac until it totally dies. I don't see why I should have to pay a monthly fee for something I might use twice over 4 months that doesn't even cover that cost. And if I raise my freelance rates to compensate, I'll lose those customers. I guess a person could say "well, you pay for Netflix but might not watch it for a month" or something but I don't think my entertainment budget is the same as paying for a tool I use to do work. Adobe's model reeks of extortion and to be honest I'd mind it less if they simply stopped loving up my poo poo with every new "upgrade" they release. Not even kidding that probably 1/4 - 1/3 of the time I spend on the trouble I have processing layouts at my job is down to some level of Adobe fuckery and trying to work out what bullshit is compatible with what - or some "feature" they added that no one asked for which breaks all the cool poo poo they figured out 10 years ago. Basically forcing me to re-learn and debug their software for them. One of their recent updates wouldn't calculate math on page size or object size. Like, I'd type in 12 * 6.5 for a six and a half foot sign and it gave me .3333". I'd done it that way for years. Doesn't help either that ameture designers always seem to be the first ones to upgrade. Adobe gives them just enough tools to be dangerous.
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Just wait until Microsoft starts pulling the monthly subscription poo poo for the OS itself. They already moved Office to a monthly/ cloud hosted deal and are also actively pushing patches that break the poo poo out of older installs of office.
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Dec 27, 2019 04:17
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it's a testament to how bad open source software is that these megacorps are able to intentionally poo poo the bed with the lights on. there's just no other workable options. GIMP still blows, linux is assinine, FreeBSD is but it shouldn't be, there's nothing usable.
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:it's a testament to how bad open source software is that these megacorps are able to intentionally poo poo the bed with the lights on. there's just no other workable options. GIMP still blows, linux is assinine, FreeBSD is but it shouldn't be, there's nothing usable. Software is hard and expensive to develop and maintain, in terms of just paying people for their time. There's no real way around it. It sucks to depend on people volunteering their time, it sucks depending on proprietary stuff with obnoxious licenses, it's just a mess.
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Very few things have ever been as depressing as looking at the world around me and realizing Richard Stallman's weird rear end was right about everything
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Tristesse posted:Just wait until Microsoft starts pulling the monthly subscription poo poo for the OS itself. yyyyyyup. The dialup internet model of the late 90s is going to come back: you'll get the option to either pay $20/month to use your PC (big companies will of course get bulk discounts) or use a "free" version that relentlessly bombards you with advertising and locks you out if it doesn't have a live internet connection to refresh its ads with.
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shame on an IGA posted:Very few things have ever been as depressing as looking at the world around me and realizing Richard Stallman's weird rear end was right about everything I’m just gonna say he is wrong about a couple things, like it is not okay for grown men to rape teenaged girls, and also not okay to chew on your own feet in public. The rest, the software poo poo, probably. I mean I’m a free user of acrobat for work and I hate it. I need it to do some basic things: open minimized. In the same position and size. Every time. This is far too much to ask of their brilliant engineers I guess. I’ve tried many other pdf readers but they all take adobe’s lovely cues and refuse any other functionality. Hurray for free market efficiency. occamsnailfile fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Dec 27, 2019 |
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eCommerce is too big now for people to not have constant internet access. Won't happen.
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Eric the Mauve posted:yyyyyyup. I feel this depends a lot on whether the device/computer can continue to be used to mine data or obtain something else from the user while they are using. The current situation is that most people will happily give up quite a bit to stream a video or play a game, or have some other amusement. It's a Bonzi scheme. Right now Windows 10 installs apps you didn't ask for automatically, serves ads, and conducts opt-somewhat-out user surveillance. They're not likely to kill the goose by hitting people with fees or lockouts, because people don't feel like their Hulu or whatever comes from Microsoft, and they'll start getting fussy: it'll look like MS is blocking their Hulu. They'll stop thinking of the Microsoft OS device as their feeding trough and next purchase cycle, avoid it. OTOH, Hulu can charge money AND make you watch ads because they serve the content drip feed, and the user knows it. As soon as they think they can make one more dollar for charging a monthly fee than not, though... doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Dec 27, 2019 |
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doctorfrog posted:I feel this depends a lot on whether the device/computer can continue to be used to mine data or obtain something else from the user while they are using. The current situation is that most people will happily give up quite a bit to stream a video or play a game, or have some other amusement. It's a Bonzi scheme. Bonzi buddy was always into sketchy poo poo.
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occamsnailfile posted:I’m just gonna say he is wrong about a couple things, like it is not okay for grown men to rape teenaged girls, and also not okay to chew on your own feet in public. The rest, the software poo poo, probably. Yeah, unless it relates directly to computer software, or maybe parrots, you should probably just ignore everything else Stallman has to say.
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:it's a testament to how bad open source software is that these megacorps are able to intentionally poo poo the bed with the lights on. there's just no other workable options. GIMP still blows, linux is assinine, FreeBSD is but it shouldn't be, there's nothing usable. I use Blender for work (lol), and while I'm super comfortable with our custom version of 2.79, the 2.8 update both broke a bunch of addons I use, and has a pretty awful new UI for quick navigation. It sucks too, for all the bugs they fixed/features they added, they focused mostly on making it "new user friendly" (ie grabbing random poo poo from max and maya), leading to nonstop bitching from me and everyone else I work with. What's funny is the two studios I work for both started on Maya, but massive frustration with Autodesk caused the switch. Now, one of them has relegated Blender to modeling, with Houdini/Arnold for layout/rendering, and the other just has Blender devs to fix poo poo occasionally. I probably shouldn't complain too much since Blender has made me a bunch of money, but now that money is going towards SideFX/Autodesk so I can keep things smooth with the Houdini studio. Pretty much the whole situation Blender was supposed to fix.
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That is something that FOSS has really been dropping the ball on in the past 5-10 years imo; its common knowledge that you don't loving change user space, yet every tom dick and harry dev thinks they're the new Steve Jobs and pushes catastrophically comical UI changes every few months. It was once one of Linux's great draws as a desktop platform; Everything is reasonable and where you'd expect it to be, very power-user oriented. Some recent changes to Ubuntu have made me frothing at the mouth and seriously considering trying out paid OS's again. (19.10 shipped with copy/paste not working on the desktop. Intentionally. argghh)
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Serephina posted:Some recent changes to Ubuntu have made me frothing at the mouth and seriously considering trying out paid OS's again. (19.10 shipped with copy/paste not working on the desktop. Intentionally. argghh) What possible reason could they have for something so dumb?
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If you don't think the money fucks aren't going to start monetizing your regular computer use just lol. I can already see them saying "Everyone pays for Internet and cell phone access we are throwing money away!" Capitalism is so fun isn't everyone having fun?
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BiggerBoat posted:Can we talk about Adobe for a second? poo poo like this is why piracy is making a big comeback
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Serephina posted:That is something that FOSS has really been dropping the ball on in the past 5-10 years imo; its common knowledge that you don't loving change user space, yet every tom dick and harry dev thinks they're the new Steve Jobs and pushes catastrophically comical UI changes every few months. It was once one of Linux's great draws as a desktop platform; Everything is reasonable and where you'd expect it to be, very power-user oriented. Were you around when they introduced Unity in the first place because jesus christ
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SaaS is a nightmare for B2B as well unless you're a monolithic megacorp. My current job (a small local government agency) was using dropbox for a long time, when a couple years ago we went to renew and they hit us with "oh by the way your prices are going up by 40%." We kicked and screamed and they eventually backed down to "only" a 10% increase, but refused a long term contract that would lock in that rate. Sure enough next year rolls around and it's a 40% increase again, and this time they're not backing down! So we flipped the bird and switched to Sharepoint/Onedrive, since we're using O365 anyway at cushy government rates. Cue the announcement from Microsoft a few months later that they're completely overhauling their licensing structure, and this is good for you! And by "you", they mean huge megacorps of 100K+ licenses. Any lower than that and the stated price from Microsoft is final, no negotiation. Oh and they can raise it whenever they want, naturally. What do you do though? Our CIO essentially had to go in front of the governing board and say "The price of our O365 just doubled, we need the money or we're going to have no email, filesharing, or word processing ability when our current licenses run out." We're a very small, single-threaded agency so it's not like we have the resources to completely ditch O365 and spool up Gmail + Google Docs or something, and even if we did there's no guarantee Google won't pull the exact same poo poo on us as soon as we've bought in. They've all got us by the balls and they know it. I'm absolutely convinced Windows 11 or whatever they call it will be SaaS. Or at a minimum, will have an annual/semi-annual big version update that you have to pay for, and if you don't upgrade poo poo starts breaking real fast while you're bombarded with pop-ups about being out of date.
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shame on an IGA posted:Were you around when they introduced Unity in the first place because jesus christ The Pirate Captain posted:What possible reason could they have for something so dumb? Sorry that's a huge derail, but yea OS's are not in a pretty place right now aren't they? iOS is a monster that will near-brick your device for daring to not upgrade yearly, Windows is still 50% wtf-cruft from yesteryear and a security nightmare, and Linux is always a few years away from being desktop-ready somehow. I swapped to linux since I thought I was too old to be pirating Windows 2000 still, but I cannot *imagine* paying money for any of these.
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Serephina posted:Sorry that's a huge derail, but yea OS's are not in a pretty place right now aren't they? iOS is a monster that will near-brick your device for daring to not upgrade yearly, Windows is still 50% wtf-cruft from yesteryear and a security nightmare, and Linux is always a few years away from being desktop-ready somehow. I swapped to linux since I thought I was too old to be pirating Windows 2000 still, but I cannot *imagine* paying money for any of these. The problem with desktop Linux has always been that half the devs believe that if you're not a competent programmer capable of tweaking your own drivers from the command line then you're not worthy to be a Linux User, and the other half don't mind non-programmers using it but personally have 917 more interesting things to do with their time than UI coding. And no one involved is even slightly interested in maintaining documentation that muggles can decipher. Sydin posted:I'm absolutely convinced Windows 11 or whatever they call it will be SaaS. Or at a minimum, will have an annual/semi-annual big version update that you have to pay for, and if you don't upgrade poo poo starts breaking real fast while you're bombarded with pop-ups about being out of date. And they're going to deprecate 10 pretty near instantly when they roll it out, too.
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GIMP is for the most part usable as a Photoshop replacement and doesn't suck as much as it did whenever you may have tried it last. Icons get fucky on 4k screens but there's some way to resolve that in UI settings and then you're good to go. I moved to it once this Creative Cloud bullshit happened because I wasn't able to cancel my subscription after losing access to the email address I signed up with. Had to reroll my debit card and that was it for me with all that bullshit.
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Scam: customer service outreach on social media
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So true, without social media we wouldn't be aware of common scams or even how common financial fraud is. Just the other day I first learned about The Producers' scheme, in reference to someone asking if Cats the Movie was one of them.
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You should learn about The Producers' scheme by watching The Producers. I either learned of it that way or by someone trying to explain Uwe Boll's career. But my point is that The Producers is great and people should watch it.
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Vavrek posted:You should learn about The Producers' scheme by watching The Producers. The movie has a musical number titled “Springtime for Hitler”, just fyi.
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Next you're going to tell me Blazing Saddles has some ethnic slurs used in it.
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FrozenVent posted:The movie has a musical number titled “Springtime for Hitler”, just fyi. Yes the Producers, both the original and the remake, are about a pair of guys trying to make a Broadway production that's so outrageously bad and offensive in order to guarantee its flop. Your point being?
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Gene Wilder: Nazi, Klansman, midget slaver.
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FrozenVent posted:The movie has a musical number titled “Springtime for Hitler”, just fyi. And a scene where the two main characters, both Jewish, tear off the Nazi armbands they'd been wearing and spit on them.
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FrozenVent posted:The movie has a musical number titled “Springtime for Hitler”, just fyi. Make sure you don’t choke yourself clutching those pearls too hard.
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