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Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Helldump got rid of GIJoeDirtbag in a rather spectacular fashion, so overall I'd say it was a net positive.

The simultaneous "gently caress GIJoeDirtbag" threads in Helldump and on the Eve Goonfleet forums were a thing of beauty.

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Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

cynic posted:

My proudest moment in helldump was replying to a nazi with a dick pic they'd posted to some obscure gay hookup forum 5 years previously and they never posted again. I was disturbingly good at doxxing.

You should not wield such powers

cynic
Jan 19, 2004



Loden Taylor posted:

Helldump got rid of GIJoeDirtbag in a rather spectacular fashion, so overall I'd say it was a net positive.

The simultaneous "gently caress GIJoeDirtbag" threads in Helldump and on the Eve Goonfleet forums were a thing of beauty.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3048978 that there is how you OP

Glenn Quebec posted:

You should not wield such powers

From memory they came to the thread with some 'I'm not a real nazi I just don't like subhuman races' justifications so I felt justified in using my preternatural dickpic tracking skills in that case.

Mr. Merdle
Oct 17, 2007

THE GREAT MANBABY SUCCESSOR

Not to belabor the point but yeah, Helldump seemed to exist purely to dogpile posters. As time went on and we ran out of genuine threats to the community these people turned on each other. The idea of leading a dog pile against someone for posting an ORLY owl always creeped me out

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth

idk why but him getting kicked out by inventory image goon is the funniest part



lol

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
reading on holy poo poo it gets gross

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
I'm v2vian man asking the almost raped girl why she put herself in that position

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Lol idk if that goon is active anymore but what a gross human

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

I'm the people lamenting search being broken in 2009

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

purple death ray posted:

I'm the people lamenting search being broken in 2009
Search, search never changes

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
This reminded me of gecafe loving his own rectum loose in the shower and I hate you for it

Kung Food fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Dec 27, 2019

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

It turning in on itself has already been mentioned plenty but it was really noticeable near the end when every single thread rapidly devolved into all parties present desperately trying to craft the most perfectly pointed yet make-it-look-real-casual burn they could and then everyone else in trying to lay lovely burns on the lovely burns in some sort of hosed up pathetic fractal type of situation where ultimately nobody really cared what the original point was anyway.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

purple death ray posted:

There wasn't a lot of helldumping with two worlds, he was posting most of the hosed up parts himself. He was also a creepo who eventually got fired from his teaching job at some Lutheran(or equivalent sect) school for being incompetent and ogling the lady students
The story I heard is that he broke down crying in front of his class on what would essentially be his last day, so the administrators asked him to leave.

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

id never read this one what a mess lmao

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Most of us figured out that doxxing is insanely bad, op.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

BIG PUFFY NIPS posted:

id never read this one what a mess lmao
When TenementFunster can call you out you know you're trash.

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

YeahTubaMike posted:

That's the thing -- FYAD might occasionally do Helldump-esque stuff, but Helldump was a lot...cleaner, if that makes sense. For the most part, the posts were well-defended and contained tons of (mostly hilarious) evidence, and people's comments on those post were coherent and on-topic. It was just less cluttered altogether, even in the era of signatures, and imho it helped that the background wasn't pink.

I agree, I also think that dedication attracted a certain type of poster that would feel like they had the moral high ground doxxing some poor idiot and take things too far. Helldump also killed the style of earnest gbs posting which was was often unintentionally the funniest stuff on the forums, the spirit of which only lives on a few threads (pen goons, etc). Fyad having some distance from that makes it more sustainable and I get to keep enjoying these forums.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
what i got from this is that fragmaster is kind of a piece of poo poo

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Doxxing is like using blood magic. Most practitioners of the dark arts are transparently detestable. They work for no other purpose than their own twisted pleasure. They possess hearts of evil and are recognized as such, for from the dark arts only dark deeds may result.

But occasionally comes a poster who tries to doxx in the name of good. Confident in the righteousness of their purpose, they seek to use profane tools to combat the profane. Perhaps they find a nazi's penis on a gay dating website and use it to silence his bigotry. And perhaps, if they stop there, they may have indeed done some small good for their community. But that poster is one in a thousand. For few who come upon the forbidden knowledge of the doxx arrived there by innocent means. And of those who did, the temptation to tap that primordial power once again, to scry the soul of another once more, is almost always irresistible. They will tell themselves "just this next one" as they reveal the secrets of another supposed wrongdoer. Then another. Soon anyone who has committed them any sleight, real or imagined, malicious or innocent, may become the next target. Thus they set themselves upon this cursed course.


- Excerpt from the Goonomicon.

magikid
Nov 4, 2006
Wielder of the Soup Spoon

Puppy Galaxy posted:

Helldump also killed the style of earnest gbs posting which was was often unintentionally the funniest stuff on the forums, the spirit of which only lives on a few threads (pen goons, etc).

Yeah, Helldump was the start of "ironic" shitposting, which then took over the whole site. But before that we had people sincerely saying stuff like goondolences and derailing threads with puns. Apparently we can only have one or the other.

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
sincere trolling is a fine art that your mother-in-law mastered years ago

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

cavallingus posted:

what i got from this is that fragmaster is kind of a piece of poo poo

TenementFunster's rap sheet is a great read. I'd highly recommend it.

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





cavallingus posted:

what i got from this is that fragmaster is kind of a piece of poo poo

Yeah, obviously you perma the rapist and I can understand permaing TenementFunster, since they are really terrible, but permaing the rape victim was really beyond lovely.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Same thing that always happens to stuff like that. The reality is the initial cause might be good and just but most of the people who latch onto it aren’t there for benevolent reasons. They just want the veneer of righteousness to justify their innate desire to poo poo on people. So naturally the legitimate things to get the pitchforks out over eventually run out but people just look around at each other and go “but our torches are still burning it’d be a waste to put em out now” so they stretch the definition of “bad people it’s okay to be bad to” farther and farther out until the cause is transparently misaligned.

It’s a cycle that repeats itself endlessly online but you can’t point it out until the new hot iteration is in full swing because while people are generally willing to accept things went too far that previous time you can’t address the same thing happening now without being a <buzzword> enemy to the current cause. You’re either with em or against em.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Lol no one has brought up in pages and pages how oppressive the mod climate was when helldump was around.

You could be probated or banned for the smallest things. I remember a d&d thread where the OP edited a picture of Groverhaus into his years old original post and he was banned. The slightest deviation from a moderator's specific orthodoxy would get you banned, no matter what the forum was or what the context was or anything.

So I believe Helldump lived as a way for other posters to sublimate their aggression and alienation to and from the forums in general and to focus all their resentment and hatred away from the mods who actually made their posting life horrible and onto the other posters who were just swimming in the same poisoned waters.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Like you are a 12 year old male and your father beats the poo poo out of you all the time and you are a child so you have no power and no money so you continue to take the abuse but at school you beat and keep this other guy in fear and that makes you feel something and that was Helldump.

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

sweet geek swag posted:

Yeah, obviously you perma the rapist and I can understand permaing TenementFunster, since they are really terrible, but permaing the rape victim was really beyond lovely.

her account was registered the same day so if she was a regular poster it was a throwaway. frags squashed the drama, she stayed anonymous after her nudes got posted and may still be posting to this day so no real harm done but holy poo poo the optics and the ban reason are so bad

shame kow got permad too tho rip assatars

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
I liked Fragmaster but that was a really terrible way to handle things. I don't get it. Maybe he does suck and I didn't realize it at the time. *shrug*

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

someone doxxed boniface and made him move or something

he later wrote a thinkpiece for gawker entitled "i was an evil middle aged cyberbully but im good now". he got barnacle jims face on cable news.

i dont remember anything about helldump except for garbage day

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I liked garbage day it was truly a put up or shut up situation. But after all the low hanging fruit got picked they turned on eachother.

I always felt Hulldump should be like brigadoomn and come back for a short time every few years.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Charles posted:

I liked Fragmaster but that was a really terrible way to handle things. I don't get it. Maybe he does suck and I didn't realize it at the time. *shrug*

Fragmaster (Leper's Colony Entry for a girl who nearly got raped) posted:

Hey thanks for joining today to post some drama. That was a poor decision, but probably as not as bad as inviting a guy named "GI JOE DIRTBAG" into your house. I am glad you didn't get raped though, take care!!

A massive piece of poo poo, indeed.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
It's really disappointing that Fragmaster is garbage because as an avid poker player I really enjoyed his Bill Fillmaff character

schmug
May 20, 2007

I got a called a shitsperm there shortly after I reg'd and it made me so sad that I didn't post for like the next ten years.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!
Boniface. 32 yo when that pic was taken

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
I thought he was in his 40s back then lmao

JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Lol no one has brought up in pages and pages how oppressive the mod climate was when helldump was around.

You could be probated or banned for the smallest things. I remember a d&d thread where the OP edited a picture of Groverhaus into his years old original post and he was banned. The slightest deviation from a moderator's specific orthodoxy would get you banned, no matter what the forum was or what the context was or anything.

Wait so how was it different back then

JK Fresco fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Dec 28, 2019

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

JK Fresco posted:

Wait so how was it different back then

You'd be probed for not using proper punctuation in a GBS thread.

It was a different era.

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Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Lol no one has brought up in pages and pages how oppressive the mod climate was when helldump was around.

You could be probated or banned for the smallest things. I remember a d&d thread where the OP edited a picture of Groverhaus into his years old original post and he was banned. The slightest deviation from a moderator's specific orthodoxy would get you banned, no matter what the forum was or what the context was or anything.

So I believe Helldump lived as a way for other posters to sublimate their aggression and alienation to and from the forums in general and to focus all their resentment and hatred away from the mods who actually made their posting life horrible and onto the other posters who were just swimming in the same poisoned waters.

It got steadily worse as well over the years. GBS became incredibly stale and boring because everyone seemed to be afraid to make a joke. The GBS first page got stale and static with the same threads on the first page every single day. Then GBS 2.0 happened which brought us to the current era.

Charles posted:

I liked Fragmaster but that was a really terrible way to handle things. I don't get it. Maybe he does suck and I didn't realize it at the time. *shrug*

I remember there were two big complaints about him during his reign (no idea about the rape victim banning stuff until now, sickening). The search was broken his entire time here and it became a huge knock to ask him when he was going to fix it. The other was the proliferation of the "FYAD Lites" like LF, YCS and the rest. The Lites became a problem for the same reason Helldump became a problem in they became a big liability because the users acted like they were above the rules and became to attract the wrong kind of attention (LF got the Secret Service called on Lowtax which ended that era).

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