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Jack B Nimble posted:Also, was the 2012 Dredd influenced by The Raid? In retrospect the premise seems similar but what do I know, the basic premise could be a staple of the genre with a long tradition. The Raid and Dredd are both riffing on Die Hard’s premise, a foundation so good it launched a subgenre of action movies. Basebf555 posted:Jack B. Nimble, you seem like someone who may not have seen Five Elements Ninjas(Netflix). If not, correct that right away. Five Elements Ninjas whips.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Five Elements Ninjas whips. it really is the insane kung fu movie everyone thinks of when they think of kung fu movies, like how 'you only live twice' is actually the bond movie you're thinking of when you think all the films from that era are like that.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:The Raid and Dredd are both riffing on Die Hard’s premise, a foundation so good it launched a subgenre of action movies. Donkey Kong laid the groundwork for that poo poo
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Holy moly eliminators owned. The 1v1 fights might be my favorite of any Adkins movies I've seen
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City On Fire made a list of the 40 best martial arts movies of the decade (not in any kind of order, AFAIK): Undisputed 3: Redemption (2010, USA) Ong Bak 3 (2010, Thailand) BKO: Bangkok Knockout (2010, Thailand) Jiu-Jitsu (2010, Japan) The Man from Nowhere (2010, South Korea) 14 Blades (2010, Hong Kong) True Legend (2010, Hong Kong) Bad Blood (2010, Hong Kong) AKA King of the Triads KG: Karate Girl (2011, Japan) The Raid (2011, Indonesia) Wu Xia (2011, Hong Kong) AKA Dragon The Lost Bladesman (2011, China) Death Grip (2012, USA) Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning (2012, USA) CZ12 (2012, China) AKA Chinese Zodiac Ninja: Shadow of a Tear (2013, USA) Bushido Man (2013, Japan) The Grandmaster (2013, Hong Kong) Vengeance of an Assassin (2014, Thailand) The Raid 2 (2014, Indonesia) Once Upon a Time in Shanghai (2014, Hong Kong) One Million K(l)icks (2015, Germany) SPL II: A Time for Consequences (2015, Hong Kong) Ip Man 3 (2015, Hong Kong) Kung Fu Jungle (2015, Hong Kong) Final Master (2015, China) Boyka: Undisputed (2016, USA) Re:Born (2016, Japan) Karate Kill (2016, Japan) The Bodyguard (2016, Hong Kong, D: Sammo Hung) Sword Master (2016, China) AKA The Bodyguard (D: Yue Song) Paradox (2017, Hong Kong) The Brink (2017, Hong Kong) Accident Man (2018, USA) Revenger (2018, South Korea) The Night Comes for Us (2018, Indonesia) Triple Threat (2018, USA/China) Shadow (2018, China) Ip Man 4: The Finale (2019, Hong Kong) The one that interests me is Jiu-Jitsu (2010, D: Hiroki Asai), which I can't find any information about at all. If you've never seen Bushido Man, I can confirm that if loving rules and is worth the effort to track down. They also listed the 10 worst: The Kick (2011, Thailand/South Korea) Shadowguard (2011, Hong Kong) AKA The Blood Bond Tom Yum Goong 2 (2013, Thailand) AKA The Protector 2 Special ID (2013, China) Rise of the Legend (2014, Hong Kong) Kung Fu Yoga (2017, China/India) Kickboxer: Retaliation (2018, USA) Iceman: The Time Traveller (2018, Hong Kong) Master Z: The Ip Man Legacy (2018, Hong Kong) Invincible Dragon (2019, Hong Kong) I liked Special ID.
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Stairmaster posted:how is there a sequel to spl anyways considering how that film ended? there are two "sequels", none of them have anything to do with the others.
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Stairmaster posted:how is there a sequel to spl anyways considering how that film ended? It’s a thematic trilogy (the third is Paradox) there’s no plot connection between them and the series has several repeat actors playing different roles. SPL 2 is easily my favorite martial arts movie of the decade. I thought Master Z was pretty good, surprised to see it listed as one of the worst of the decade.
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FancyMike posted:I thought Master Z was pretty good, surprised to see it listed as one of the worst of the decade. The descriptions of the movies on the list show some bias against wire-fu (as do I), that probably accounts for it.
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http://farreachingfilms.blogspot.com/2013/08/ju-jitu-aka-jiu-jitu-vs-karate.html quote:2010 You can apparently buy it on japanese amazon That blog link has a link to youtube of the final fight mentioned.
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Is that film like UFC tournaments one through ten, in that I will see a seemingly endless parade of Karate Black Belts realize they don't know how to wrestle? Because I will absolutely go to Japanese Amazon to get kung fu flick like that. Edit: final fight was about what I expected, still good. Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jan 1, 2020 |
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dokmo posted:They also listed the 10 worst: The Kick wasn't great, but I don't know if it makes the absolute bottom of the list. It was more dull than bad.
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I watched Kung Fu Yoga in theaters and it was very... strange. I think it leans heavily on Bollywood movie tropes that the storytelling makes little sense. Oh and I watched the first Police Story. Wow.
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OG Police Story is one of my favourite Chan movies for sure. I think the non action scenes don't hold up so well, but the setpieces are Incredible.
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When I saw Bad Boys 2, I was sort of looking around going "So... I'm the only person here who's seen Police Story, huh?" Because the chase through the Cuban shanty town is a direct, 100% ripoff of Police Story's opening sequence.
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The shantytown destruction scene is also recreated in the underrated thai classic Born To Fight. And man, if you want to see thai stuntmen at their most reckless, Born To Fight is the movie for you.
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Lol at my dawning realization of why jailbreaks villainess looked so familiar but not her name
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What's with jean-paul lys weird fight choreography? I've seen him in nightshooters and jailbreak and in both he consistently pulls punches/kicks so short they they clearly miss, which isn't something I ever notice in other movies. Is it something about his specific fighting style?
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Payndz posted:When I saw Bad Boys 2, I was sort of looking around going "So... I'm the only person here who's seen Police Story, huh?" Because the chase through the Cuban shanty town is a direct, 100% ripoff of Police Story's opening sequence.
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mastershakeman posted:Lol at my dawning realization of why jailbreaks villainess looked so familiar but not her name Lmbo I'm glad I'm not the only person who did a double take there
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So, i just watched the entire Fast and Furious franchise over the Christmas holidays and holy gently caress, what the hell happened around the 5th or 6th film? It's like someone did a survey and found out that the 'fast' bit was more boring than the 'furious' bit and injected about 100% more choreographed fight scenes and explosions and the whole thing just works despite it's silly plots. It's also blowing me away that the franchise has gone from gravelly voiced bald meathead does street racing to Baldynamic Duo vs cybernetically enhanced super villain without really feeling like it's jumped it's own ridiculous shark. I used to write all of them off, but i'll probably be heading to the cinema to see the 9th one now.
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Yeah, Fast 5 was when they realised "y'know, nobody gives a gently caress about racing for pink slips when these guys can just steal any supercar they want" and instead went all-out with turning them into caper movies. Someone also had a theory that the series progression is based around Vin Diesel being a huge Dungeons & Dragons nerd, and every new film means the characters level up and get more insane car-based superpowers. The first couple of movies, if your car crashes you get badly hurt because you hardly have any Hit Points. By 6, people are flipping their cars off loving mountains and shrugging it off because they've got +16 to their Carobatics rolls.
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I could actually get behind that theory. It's really feels like a bunch of action film fans got together and just went 'imagine what we could do next'. Next thing you know they're driving a supercar through three skyscrapers in Dubai. Even things like handling Paul Walker's death. Yeah, the ending of 7 feels a bit out of tone for what's happening in the film unless you know what happened to him, but you can kind of give them kudo's for going in the opposite direction of most films and actually just giving his character a happy ending rather than killing him off. At which point if you're up to the 7th film (or is it 8 at that point?), then you're probably going to be invested in the series already and will likely look up Walker's death. Then you get the context behind the ending and are more likely to be forgiving about the finality to the tone. I can see them adding more Idris Elba after Hobbs and Shaw, but the only thing that might kill it is if they go too far in the direction of The Expendables and have too much focus on "actions star cameo #20" than slowly expanding the universe with characters getting their own intricate backgrounds. I suppose that might also support the D&D theory because so far every 'big name' that's entered the series since 5 has done so with a somewhat layered backstory. I kinda of expect them to do the same thing with Idris Elba in some way after Hobbs and Shaw.
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We're talking in general and anonymous terms here about the filmmakers but it should not be forgotten how the middle films of the franchise and the absolute explosion in money and popularity happened while Justin Lin was at the helm. He did 3, 4, 5, and 6. Doing a quadrilogy of action movies and leaving on such an insane high note is something that doesn't happen every day. Five happened because he wanted to focus on family and that to him meant taking advantage of the character connections from all the previous films and he recognized the blue collar aspect of the series, which I'm guessing is why he wanted to do a heist and fight-the-power film, giving us all the vicarious thrill of seeing the characters become massively wealthy.
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It's just occurred to me that F&F must almost be one of the longest running movie franchises featuring the same (ish) core cast of characters no? I mean yeah, you've got stuff like the MCU, but that's a lot of really fragmented stories that then have a crossover at the end and stuff like James Bond is more or less 20+ stand alone movies.
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Kin posted:It's just occurred to me that F&F must almost be one of the longest running movie franchises featuring the same (ish) core cast of characters no? It's apparently the mission impossible movies: 23 years and six movies with no recasts.
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While we're on the subject dunno if it's been linked here before but I found this stunt breakdown of the vault scene from Fast Five insanely interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaHxGu5YeKM
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I am rewatching Desperado for the first time in like five years and I forgot how much I loved this movie. So many good gunfights and the jokes are still funny.
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Chomposaur posted:While we're on the subject dunno if it's been linked here before but I found this stunt breakdown of the vault scene from Fast Five insanely interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaHxGu5YeKM Speasking of the FnF movies, Hobbes and Shaw was a weird outlier. You can see the director is very comfortable with fight scenes and gunfights, but the chase scenes weren't really there. Sure, the centipede of cars was awesome but the best in the series (5 and 6 especially) knew how to do a stupid, absurd, completely over the top scene but do it in a way where things still had weight and seemed to follow a clear, logical chain. Hobbes and Shaw didn't quite have that. Lumbermouth posted:I am rewatching Desperado for the first time in like five years and I forgot how much I loved this movie. So many good gunfights and the jokes are still funny. Also it has Salma Hayek at her hottest and most Salma Hayeky before she married a billionaire and ruined all that.
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The reason imo fast five was so different from what came before was that the filmmakers hired legendary stunt coordinator Spiro Razatos to do the second unit. If you're looking for wild car chases you could do worse than go through his filmography, particularly the stuff he did in the 90s for straight-to-video production company PM Entertainment. Razatos did the each of the F&F movies since five, but did not do Hobbes and Shaw, which is why it was different and not as cool.
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One thing I will say for 6 Underground is that casting Ryan Reynolds was a smart move A big reason Bay movies annoy me so much is their motormouthed douchebag protagonists, and Reynolds's entire wheelhouse is making motormouthed douchebags
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brocked posted:I just watched that over the last couple nights.... I thought it was garbage-horrific editing, nonsensical over complicated schemes, XXX-level "extreme" sports tacked on, wannabe edginess, and a main character I don't think I could spend 5 minutes with Well yeah but it's Bay I didn't even finish it tbh, the only reason I stuck around as long as I did was 1) I liked Reynolds and thought he had good chemistry with Dave Franco, and 2) inertia after Franco copped it
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I watched The Debt Collector this evening, Adkins bounced off Mandylor pretty nicely and it was genuinely funny. It was a pretty nice looking film too, the only thing that let it down was the last 5 minutes or so! Oh and ACTUAL SQUIBS! Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jan 11, 2020 |
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Clipperton posted:Well yeah but it's Bay Yeah, I watched the 90's Zorro movie with Antonio Banderas and Anthony Hopkins as a palate-cleanser afterward. It still holds up!
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brocked posted:Yeah, I watched the 90's Zorro movie with Antonio Banderas and Anthony Hopkins as a palate-cleanser afterward. It still holds up! It rules. The action and fight choreography is great. Martin Campbell directed both Banderas Zorros, Goldeneye, Casino Royale, a superhero movie we shall not mention, and The Foreigner.
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Am I the only person who didn't think Green Lantern was all that bad? I mean it was kind of forgettable I guess, but it didn't offend me or gently caress my wife or whatever.
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Inspector 34 posted:Am I the only person who didn't think Green Lantern was all that bad? I mean it was kind of forgettable I guess, but it didn't offend me or gently caress my wife or whatever. I rewatched it recently and no, it isn't that bad, but it definitely suffers from some bad creative decisions that hold it back: a lovely "for the slow kids in the back" beginning voiceover, an overstuffed plot with both a personal villain for Hal and a Cosmic Fart Cloud of Doom, and being too loving DARK. No, not grimdark, but actually visually dim, reduced in brightness and contrast, which is a super bizarre direction to take when the subject matter is a hero who literally wields a color as a weapon.
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