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But they're smarter and more reliable than human's !!!!!* https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50857759 *According to google who want to steal all your health data
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Agile Vector posted:good to see marissa got work after yahoo
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SO DEMANDING posted:get this: you can still have lan parties! all your old games work fine with integrated graphics so everyone can just bring their laptops, plus you're all old enough to drink now!! they’re even more fun as an adult imo
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jre posted:But they're smarter and more reliable than human's !!!!!* makes sense that ai cant outperform our genius brain language systems but can beat us at divining cancer from crappy black and white photos
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echinopsis posted:makes sense that ai cant outperform our genius brain language systems but can beat us at divining cancer from crappy black and white photos it can't do that either e: a summary that isn't paywalled infernal machines fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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medical "ai" is dumb as poo poo, especially considering most providers don't do even the most basic analytics and quality/process control.
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lol @ Shaggar giving his "expert" opinions on any random subject.
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Inspired thinking of tim's top engineers working hard in the new year to try to figure out some way to have a working keyboard on a laptop smaller than 16 inches
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Shaggar posted:medical "ai" is dumb as poo poo, especially considering most providers don't do even the most basic analytics and quality/process control. this is true, it is hugely unsurprising that studies find that applying ai improves healthcare, since every study that applies any kind of rigor to healthcare (including incredibly dumb expert systems in the 80s just reminding doctors and nurses of really obvious stuff) tend to improve it. healthcare is extremely resistant to improvement though, and it is not even an american thing.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this is true, it is hugely unsurprising that studies find that applying ai improves healthcare, since every study that applies any kind of rigor to healthcare (including incredibly dumb expert systems in the 80s just reminding doctors and nurses of really obvious stuff) tend to improve it. healthcare is extremely resistant to improvement though, and it is not even an american thing. If I were an underpaid, overworked nurse in shitstain, AL I would also be resistant to anything that added to my workload.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it is hugely unsurprising that studies find that applying ai improves healthcare It's hugely unsurprising because the studies are always done by people trying to sell you the AI
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jre posted:It's hugely unsurprising because the studies are always done by people trying to sell you the AI they are just following standard procedures.
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AI is a tool. it requires a skilled user to apply it, it doesn’t replace skill. if a doctor plugs in a set of symptoms and the software gives a list of possible conditions, it takes skill to determine which ones are really relevant in this case.
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The Management posted:AI is a tool. it requires a skilled user to apply it, it doesn’t replace skill. if a doctor plugs in a set of symptoms and the software gives a list of possible conditions, it takes skill to determine which ones are really relevant in this case. yeah that's not ai
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that’s basic process controls straight out of the 80s and most providers don’t bother with it. it’s why you end up with massively inconsistent outcomes
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Wheany posted:yeah that's not ai AI is anything you want it to be
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Shaggar posted:that’s basic process controls straight out of the 80s and most providers don’t bother with it. it’s why you end up with massively inconsistent outcomes massively inconsistent outcomes, now that sounds like machine learning!
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Wheany posted:yeah that's not ai *points at diagnostic flowchart*: ai
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Sagebrush posted:*points at diagnostic flowchart*: ai i've heard people refer to flowcharts as "algorithms" before. not sure how i feel about that. like, maybe technically correct, but it also seems buzzword-y to me. idk.
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 AI typically beats humans at all decision tasks, especially ones that require knowledge or skill. Not because AI is good, but because humans are really, really bad. We have cognitive biases that make us systematically wrong and far less knowledge than we believe (as we conflate access to knowledge, i.e., Google, with possessing that same knowledge). Add to that that we perceive what we expect, not what we see. We don't believe that we suck because of hindsight bias, Texas sharpshooter effect and survivorship bias all causing us to think we make better decisions than we do. Groups of people almost always beat individuals; the cognitive biases average out and it is more likely that "obviously correct in hindsight" answers are picked since more people can provide answers. AI still have biases but typically to much less of a degree than individuals, and they are scored on both their correct and incorrect decisions.
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klafbang posted:
What if the decision is: drive full speed into a fire engine yes/no ?
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jre posted:What if the decision is: drive full speed into a fire engine yes/no ? test to transformer says quote:A fire engine will be less likely to hit you even if they see you with your shirt off. seems as good answer as any.
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klafbang posted:Groups of people almost always beat individuals; the cognitive biases average out and it is more likely that "obviously correct in hindsight" answers are picked since more people can provide answers. AI still have biases but typically to much less of a degree than individuals, and they are scored on both their correct and incorrect decisions. remember when ibm was all about "the wisdom of crowds"?
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infernal machines posted:remember when ibm was all about "the wisdom of crowds"? i was watching some science youtube video the other day and the presenter said this. i immediately started thinking of trump getting elected and also brexit. the dude meant to say "regression to the mean" anyway.
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The Management posted:AI is anything you want it to be its a billion dollar valuation for my solution to something
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don't ask what it is because it doesn't exist but it's whatever the problem is
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theadder posted:lambert the sheepish lion
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ai is a meaningless term. machine learning is a filter that nobody understands and can’t prove is correct.
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Sagebrush posted:when i got titanfall 2 it was 65 gigs and i was like what the gently caress, this is just an fps, what's going on? so i looked it up and it turns out that about 35gb of that is multiple copies of uncompressed audio files for the entire game in every language version. multiple copies because of disc access, uncompressed because the xbox 360 didn't have enough power to devote a whole thread to decompressing audio in real time, and they carried those two limitations to every other version I got modern warfare last week and it was 165gb because of this bullshit + the campaign I bought a COD game to play multiplayer not play some lovely rear end CIA propaganda campaign
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I got modern warfare last week and it was 165gb because of this bullshit + the campaign but the devs said it was "apolitical" so it is not a propaganda and your're wrong
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interesting thread about (of all things) mac ie 5 https://twitter.com/jimmyg/status/1213810286077054977
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FMguru posted:interesting thread about (of all things) mac ie 5 this is excellent thanks
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i remember ie5 for mac. it seemed to work well enough but thankfully was just a stopgap until the world's greatest web browser safari came out
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FMguru posted:interesting thread about (of all things) mac ie 5 in which microsoft, completely by accident and without any knowledge of apple's plans, creates the aqua ui style also creates a fully standards compliant rendering engine, that is never used anywhere else
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infernal machines posted:in which microsoft, completely by accident and without any knowledge of apple's plans, creates the aqua ui style it matched the colorful imacs of the day, you could theme your browser to match your specific imac color
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quote:I challenge you, though, to imagine not the worst that a future AR experience could be, but the best. Imagine instead an AR experience not designed by advertisers, but by Apple. with AR apple can beam U2 music videos right onto your face instead of just your music library
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